AKGrowAreo
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I had originally thought that they looked underfed, but then I saw some nute burn on your tips. So I guess it looks like a PH imbalance. What is your PH at?
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Miu O Deus
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Yes, you are right,and have some root rot..my root color purple-white :/
how to stabilizing easy way like you..?
2 days ego I added some (25lt = 3,5g mineral magic) then it's work well ph stabilizing 5.7-6.0 range
ppm stay but water sucked very quickly..
If I continue like this she change to normal or already dead?
really thank you @AKGrowAreo
AKGrowAreo
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No prob. How is she looking now?
AKGrowAreo
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The new growth should be looking good, the old growth will not come back though.
Miu O Deus
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very slowly turning color to yellow,weeks 5-6 for now.I worried very much
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sky rocket
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What strain, lights and nutes,
Miu O Deus
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not certain but mostly indica strain,diy led cree 3k,advanced nutrients (LucasFormula),Cal-Mag,GreatWhite..
thx for reply,I am stuck
questiondj42
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Looks like you've got nitrogen lockout/deficiency. What's your pH?
Miu O Deus
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you're absolutely right,2 weeks of continuous variables ph 4.8-8.0
but now add some mineral magic it's awesome completely kept constant ph for now 5,7-6,0 but my concern ,what can I do now? Is there anything I need to do..pruning, flushing or nutrients
joey green
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thanks for the vid, i think i now know what im doing different which also goes with what @AKGrowAreo said, i left 1 clone behind when i first took cutting because i thought i saw roots starting (i was mistaken) but anyway that plant has now popped roots a month later, i believe its due to the fact that i decided to start cutting my clones from the tops of my plants, going for thick stems thinking i would have a nice fat stalk when they start growing, buddy pointed out in the vid those cuttings take the longest to root...
BubbaGrump
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I love the idea of more CO2, but don't have the allowance for the rig. One thought I had was dry ice. CO2 supply and maybe help keep the grow room temps down as a bonus? Anyone else try this?
joey green
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Joey green here back with more head scratching bullshit. so in previous posts i mentioned buying two used lumatek ballast and how they caused RF problems bringing the cable company to my home due to neighbor complaints, since i didn't have cable i unhooked all my loose wires and capped all the ends to everything in my house and voila my problem went away. since i didn't need those lights jus yet i unhooked them, fixed the 240v power problem at the outlet i was planning to use and had myself set for when the next batch of girls arrived. well sure enough i go to power them up for showtime 2 weeks ago and bam! instantly my netflix stops loading FML the problem was not resolved, so i bit the bullet coughed up more money and grabbed 2 nanolux filters, and guess what.... these fuckers still aren't doing the job, they definitely help, netflix is running but i now have bad pixelation which tells me my internet is still slower then during lights off also file uploads are noticeable slower.
I doubt its strong enough to affect the neighbors now but what about me
does anyone understand faraday cages? im thinking to build a box with 30 gauge venting duct metal and cover the top with chicken wire since i got no copper money. is this legit? would it work?
I doubt its strong enough to affect the neighbors now but what about me
does anyone understand faraday cages? im thinking to build a box with 30 gauge venting duct metal and cover the top with chicken wire since i got no copper money. is this legit? would it work?
OGMMJ
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Hey guys! First of all let me thank everyone that contributed to the wealth of knowledge in this thread, possibly the best thread I have ever came across and it forsure made me kick all the soil outside and keep it there for good,
I have been reading and building and fine tuning my systems over the past few months and am finally getting very close to popping some of my good genetics, but of course I would not be so dumb as to run amazing new genetics on a system that I have no experience with so I currently have some bagseed running to iron out the kinks, so with that being said let me start from the beginning...
I grew in soil both outdoors and indoors for many years with decent results, after abrupt changes in my life and a very quick unexpected move I broke everything down and put everything up into storage for the past year or so... The itch is back, so I have set up 3 new systems practically all based off this thread with help from superstoners threads, (same as everyone) with the water in my area testing at 400+ppm and almost 8.0ph the first thing I did before even building my systems was get a nice reverse osmosis system installed to provide all the water for my grow. The RO system is working as it should and I am getting roughly 10ppm.
So now that I got that out of the way I will start with my concerns and the reason which I am making this post so lengthy and not just rambling questions demanding answers because I am already anticipating the "search bar does wonders" answer and well I have read just about everything I can on the pros and cons of RO water, proper reservoir conditions and practices and also have a good understanding of nutrients and plant biology, but I am running into problems while doing what I believed to be almost everything correctly, so here it goes....
RO WATER
BOTANICARE KIND NUTRIENTS
LIQUID KARMA
PURE BLEND PRO TEA
BOTANICARE PH DOWN
stacked vegger system
REZ TEMPS NEVER GO ABOVE 66 degrees
No airstones/pumps
I got root rot, atleast I'm 99% sure I do, butttt it isn't like all the pictures online (yet) it is minor and only effecting part of the roots on very young plants... Maybe 2 weeks in veg, as soon as I realized what this was, (this morning) I put all the plants in the bathtub with water and some h2o2 (3%) I then rebuilt my vegger (was going to anyhow) I believe and still am hoping it was caused because the lower tub of my veg unit was one of the grey ones with black lids which I did not realize let light in until I was reading up on brown slime algae. So I rebuilt my vegger with the new strongbox style tubs (black w yellow lids) and painted my top lid black, I mixed a new nutrient solution and added 10mls of the 3% h2o2 per gallon along with the base and grow of my nutrients. I practically cut all the roots off the one plant just to see if it can recover and the others ones I left alone and will see how they recover leaving the infected roots tangled with the good roots, so I'm very sorry for the lengthy post but I am trying to figure out how to stop this from occurring, the reason I'm suspecting brown slime is because of the slimey feel my pump and hose had when I changed everything today and the fact that all the other environmental conditions are very good.
Here are my questions
1. I am running my RO water into a 55 gallon storage tank with a float valve; this water is not being used very fast and will be stored for upwards to a month once the 55 gallons is totally full, seeing as I am still in early growth stages with very few plants I'm not using near that much water.... Soooo is it possible all the water that I am storing already has brown slime algae? Is there a proper way to store RO water other then in a lightproof container such as a 55 gallon drum with a lid? Should I add anything to the stored water to prevent bad bacteria growth?
2. I understand I should not add anything organic to the Rez until I get this problem under control, but I have already added KIND GROW and KIND BASE and h2o2 to the new nutrient solution after bathing the plants in the bathtub in just h2o and h2o2 (3%) should I change the Rez again tomorrow and add only water and peroxide?
3. I HAVE ORDERED HYDROGUARD,
In the future do you guys think I will be safe using stored RO water running HYDROGUARD,LIQUID KARMA, PURE BLEND PRO TEA, and botanicare kind nutrients ?
4. Worst comes to worst should I toss all the plants in my vegger in the trash to completely get rid of the rotting material, bleach scrub everything and start new fresh with the above recipe ?
Thanks in advance and I'm very sorry for the lengthy reply I just am so aggravated, just when you think you've taken all the precautionary actions and gotten your environment control dialed in to prevent problems (high rez temps, high humidity, high room temps, dirty city water) bam there's the brown slime. Sorry it's late I will update with some pics in the morning. Please help me out guys.
I have been reading and building and fine tuning my systems over the past few months and am finally getting very close to popping some of my good genetics, but of course I would not be so dumb as to run amazing new genetics on a system that I have no experience with so I currently have some bagseed running to iron out the kinks, so with that being said let me start from the beginning...
I grew in soil both outdoors and indoors for many years with decent results, after abrupt changes in my life and a very quick unexpected move I broke everything down and put everything up into storage for the past year or so... The itch is back, so I have set up 3 new systems practically all based off this thread with help from superstoners threads, (same as everyone) with the water in my area testing at 400+ppm and almost 8.0ph the first thing I did before even building my systems was get a nice reverse osmosis system installed to provide all the water for my grow. The RO system is working as it should and I am getting roughly 10ppm.
So now that I got that out of the way I will start with my concerns and the reason which I am making this post so lengthy and not just rambling questions demanding answers because I am already anticipating the "search bar does wonders" answer and well I have read just about everything I can on the pros and cons of RO water, proper reservoir conditions and practices and also have a good understanding of nutrients and plant biology, but I am running into problems while doing what I believed to be almost everything correctly, so here it goes....
RO WATER
BOTANICARE KIND NUTRIENTS
LIQUID KARMA
PURE BLEND PRO TEA
BOTANICARE PH DOWN
stacked vegger system
REZ TEMPS NEVER GO ABOVE 66 degrees
No airstones/pumps
I got root rot, atleast I'm 99% sure I do, butttt it isn't like all the pictures online (yet) it is minor and only effecting part of the roots on very young plants... Maybe 2 weeks in veg, as soon as I realized what this was, (this morning) I put all the plants in the bathtub with water and some h2o2 (3%) I then rebuilt my vegger (was going to anyhow) I believe and still am hoping it was caused because the lower tub of my veg unit was one of the grey ones with black lids which I did not realize let light in until I was reading up on brown slime algae. So I rebuilt my vegger with the new strongbox style tubs (black w yellow lids) and painted my top lid black, I mixed a new nutrient solution and added 10mls of the 3% h2o2 per gallon along with the base and grow of my nutrients. I practically cut all the roots off the one plant just to see if it can recover and the others ones I left alone and will see how they recover leaving the infected roots tangled with the good roots, so I'm very sorry for the lengthy post but I am trying to figure out how to stop this from occurring, the reason I'm suspecting brown slime is because of the slimey feel my pump and hose had when I changed everything today and the fact that all the other environmental conditions are very good.
Here are my questions
1. I am running my RO water into a 55 gallon storage tank with a float valve; this water is not being used very fast and will be stored for upwards to a month once the 55 gallons is totally full, seeing as I am still in early growth stages with very few plants I'm not using near that much water.... Soooo is it possible all the water that I am storing already has brown slime algae? Is there a proper way to store RO water other then in a lightproof container such as a 55 gallon drum with a lid? Should I add anything to the stored water to prevent bad bacteria growth?
2. I understand I should not add anything organic to the Rez until I get this problem under control, but I have already added KIND GROW and KIND BASE and h2o2 to the new nutrient solution after bathing the plants in the bathtub in just h2o and h2o2 (3%) should I change the Rez again tomorrow and add only water and peroxide?
3. I HAVE ORDERED HYDROGUARD,
In the future do you guys think I will be safe using stored RO water running HYDROGUARD,LIQUID KARMA, PURE BLEND PRO TEA, and botanicare kind nutrients ?
4. Worst comes to worst should I toss all the plants in my vegger in the trash to completely get rid of the rotting material, bleach scrub everything and start new fresh with the above recipe ?
Thanks in advance and I'm very sorry for the lengthy reply I just am so aggravated, just when you think you've taken all the precautionary actions and gotten your environment control dialed in to prevent problems (high rez temps, high humidity, high room temps, dirty city water) bam there's the brown slime. Sorry it's late I will update with some pics in the morning. Please help me out guys.
OGMMJ
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Once again sorry for the lengthy reply, I'm not a fan of running to the forums as soon as I have a question I much perfer controlling and switching variables myself to learn the ins and outs and not just the dos and donts, it's just... It's just... I just received my order from attitude with all the new exciting strains and I just got my flower room temps dialed in (Rez temps 65-67) and I'm ready to send these girls up there and start popping my critical kush... Or cookie kush... Or 24k or cotton candy, or akorn or Pineapple Express #2 or chicle or gsc... Anyways you guys get the point just to many variables to test and not enough time so I thought I would ask the experts 
my stored RO water really concerns me because from my understanding brown slime algae will grow with or without light and also does not care what temp your Rez is, so i really hope it isn't already in my stored water. seeing as I was only running kind base,grow, liquid karma, pure blend pro tea and ph down do you guys think it was just because I'm not running any hydroguard or pondzyme or any bennies basically??
my stored RO water really concerns me because from my understanding brown slime algae will grow with or without light and also does not care what temp your Rez is, so i really hope it isn't already in my stored water. seeing as I was only running kind base,grow, liquid karma, pure blend pro tea and ph down do you guys think it was just because I'm not running any hydroguard or pondzyme or any bennies basically??
sky rocket
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OGMMJ
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Hey sky my Rez temp in my vegger has never went above 66, the veg and clone tent stays roughly 70 at 50-60% rh
OGMMJ
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thanks for the quick replies guys! Going to go take some pictures for you guys to see, really just wondering if I really need to pitch these plants or if I'm heading the right direction with adding h2o2 and removing the organics, but did I mess up by adding the base and grow of the botanicare kind line? I was under the impression that the kind line is not quite organic so should I change the Rez again today with just water and a peroxide mix ?
Also pondzyme with barley and hydroguard are in the mail headed this way so I will have those to add to help fight off the slime.
Also pondzyme with barley and hydroguard are in the mail headed this way so I will have those to add to help fight off the slime.
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OGMMJ
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Just checked on them and the one I chopped all the roots off of has of course killed all its large leaves so I pulled all those off and stuck it back in the cloner, seems to be pulling through in the new growth atleast, the one that I left most of the infected roots on is showing the same signs of the larger leaves dying but the new growth looks the same, also the Rez temps right now early morning are 62. So like I said my Rez does not get to warm so I know it was not from high water temps however if too chilly of water can cause it that could be an issue, but I would rather deal with slowed growth then this algae bs! So again guys what do you think? Should I continue letting the solution run as just the base,grow and h2o2 3% at 10ml a gallon? Or should I be running just water and h2o2 maybe at a stronger solution ? Or is the only way to get rid of it to toss all the plants in the system, bleach everything and start new? Also if I start new do you guys think my stored RO water is safe or do you guys believe it could already have algae growing in it itself and that is where the algae came from!? Because it didn't take but a week to show up and mess up everything lol! Or do you guys think it was my mistake of using the dark grey container as the bottom Rez? I'll snap some pics of the ones I believe are effected, the last picture is the white widow big bud; the only one I really care about and that one seeeeemms okay so far, now that I check the other one it seems brown we well, leaning more towards cutting roots off all of them and putting back in the cloner just don't want to if I caught it early enough to treat it and prevent it from coming back, I really hope the bacteria isn't already in my stored RO water.
WeedFreak78
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I'm not there, but those don't look bad at all, they are pretty white, should be able to be saved . Those plants are young, probably shouldn't have messed with the roots, though. What EC were you running? They don't have many secondary roots so they shouldn't be on any nutes really, or extremely low EC. I've stated running just tap water until i see the secondary roots. What did the res smell like? An infected res will smell bad, it's hard to explain. The liquid karma stains roots brown, kinda looks like that. I thought I was getting root rot initially, then I figured out it was that stuff. My pumps usually have a thin slimy coating on them when I pull them out, but it might be the hydroguard colony, since I use it. I store my RO in a 55 gal drum like you, I bought the smallest air pump I could to keep it agitated. I opened if after about 8 months, thinking I should clean it and it was perfectly fine.
If your running h202 in anything organic, your fighting yourself. You either need to go full sterile, or run bennines. Only time h202/bleach should really need to be used is in extreme circumstances where you want to nuke everything, in my experience.
When you get the hydroguard, I'd run base nutes to .5-.6ec, liquid karma to get it up to .6-.7 Ec, and HG @ 1ml/L initially, that's it. After that, use the HG at 0.5ml/L. Once they start bouncing back get EC up around 1.0.
If your running h202 in anything organic, your fighting yourself. You either need to go full sterile, or run bennines. Only time h202/bleach should really need to be used is in extreme circumstances where you want to nuke everything, in my experience.
When you get the hydroguard, I'd run base nutes to .5-.6ec, liquid karma to get it up to .6-.7 Ec, and HG @ 1ml/L initially, that's it. After that, use the HG at 0.5ml/L. Once they start bouncing back get EC up around 1.0.
OGMMJ
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Hey weed, thanks! I thought I might have been worrying to much but I did catch a wiff of fresh grass smell from the roots of the plant that I completely chopped the roots off of, the other ones weren't to bad and the one there that looks terrible in the picture is the one I super rinsed under the sink and a lot of roots washed away, so that also kind of confirmed my root rot vs staining, also I mixed a glass of 50% h2o2 3% and tap water and soaked each net pot in it and the roots were bubbling showing signs of bad bacteria correct?
Also my question about the h2o2 and no organics is I currently am running h2o2 and the base and grow nutes from botanicare kind, are those organic? I was under the impression not so much so I added those but left out the pure blend tea and lk, also I might just be spacing out from the early meds... But what is hg? Lol never mind hydroguard duh
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