High power COB -vs- hps vertical shoot out

[a mongo frog]

If by this you mean there's a lot of hype and over promising on the industry, I'd agree with that readily enough.

Lights are measured very simply; performance, in our case PPfD, vs watts expended.

The more PPfD per watt, the better. It just needn't be a lot more complicated than that.

Actually no i don't think theres a lot of over promising with cobs/led. Have seen some sick grows. Genes blue dream side by side was epic and totally lab tested. And right now there is a Tahoe og grow thats going on in this community that has a chance to really make some waves in the growing world and more people would most certainly take notice when dude knocks it out the ball park and ends up at coors field. First person on the site to grow a clone only og under cobs. Shits fully exciting! And that dude seems as humble as they come. Its all about application. Realstyles just came on here saying he got 2 units per 800 watts. So basically he's saving 16 dollars a run compared to a guy running 1000 watt fixtures. All this mussel flexing is crazy. It means nothing. We all have good lights. If ones happy with their buds they have good lights. But kill this lamp murder this lamp is lame. Just my thoughts.

 

[chuck estevez]

Actually no i don't think theres a lot of over promising with cobs/led. Have seen some sick grows. Genes blue dream side by side was epic and totally lab tested. And right now there is a Tahoe og grow thats going on in this community that has a chance to really make some waves in the growing world and more people would most certainly take notice when dude knocks it out the ball park and ends up at coors field. First person on the site to grow a clone only og under cobs. Shits fully exciting! And that dude seems as humble as they come. Its all about application. Realstyles just came on here saying he got 2 units per 800 watts. So basically he's saving 16 dollars a run compared to a guy running 1000 watt fixtures. All this mussel flexing is crazy. It means nothing. We all have good lights. If ones happy with their buds they have good lights. But kill this lamp murder this lamp is lame. Just my thoughts.

dude is only 2 weeks in and only his second grow,already has spidermites. odds are against him. b ut i am interested and watching his grow.

 

[a mongo frog]

dude is only 2 weeks in and only his second grow,already has spidermites. odds are against him. b ut i am interested and watching his grow.

Im also very interested!!! I missed the part about the mites, but they look spot on to me right now as they sit.

 

[chuck estevez]

Bro thats crazy fucking bullshit....point 1is you are a jackass if you think a bud pic proves anything.

Point2 there are loads of contests for "nug of the month" hundreds of growers vote on best looking buds. Those contests are often won by led guys. You logic is a joke. Stop with foolish, wing nut, hid cult of denial.

https://www.420magazine.com/forums/420-contests/273573-nug-month-april-2016-a-4.html

go to the first page and first pic posted,it is a dry nugg of incredible bulk,tell me that doesn"t smoke realstyles grow.

 

[StashToker]

go to the first page and first pic posted,it is a dry nugg of incredible bulk,tell me that doesn"t smoke realstyles grow.

What do you mean? They look top shelf if trimmed a bit better in my opinion. I don't know either of them or have a vested interest in convincing anyone of anything.

 

[ttystikk]

Actually no i don't think theres a lot of over promising with cobs/led. Have seen some sick grows. Genes blue dream side by side was epic and totally lab tested. And right now there is a Tahoe og grow thats going on in this community that has a chance to really make some waves in the growing world and more people would most certainly take notice when dude knocks it out the ball park and ends up at coors field. First person on the site to grow a clone only og under cobs. Shits fully exciting! And that dude seems as humble as they come. Its all about application. Realstyles just came on here saying he got 2 units per 800 watts. So basically he's saving 16 dollars a run compared to a guy running 1000 watt fixtures. All this mussel flexing is crazy. It means nothing. We all have good lights. If ones happy with their buds they have good lights. But kill this lamp murder this lamp is lame. Just my thoughts.

I'm all for killing obsolete lighting. Metal halide has been superceded by CDM/CMH/LEC. DE is the only kind of HPS worth having, the SE is again obsolete. Lumens per watt per dollar, my assertions make sense.

The only time to grab the cheapest lighting you can get is right when you're starting a grow and low on cash.

Soon enough there will be used LED on the market for people to snap up on a budget.

 

[a mongo frog]

I'm all for killing obsolete lighting. Metal halide has been superceded by CDM/CMH/LEC. DE is the only kind of HPS worth having, the SE is again obsolete. Lumens per watt per dollar, my assertions make sense.

The only time to grab the cheapest lighting you can get is right when you're starting a grow and low on cash.

The op's single ended bulbs just murdered his cobs. Single ended hps will never be obsolete. Its the number one selling horticulture bulb world wide. Their wicked good.

 

[REALSTYLES]

Just stop @chuck estevez don't get this thread closed because of your issues with cobs. The OP didn't make the light right and if it was me I would have placed some cobs over the top as well.

 

[Rrog]

I dont want to get in the middle of this horseshit throwing contest, but I gotta say, the Realstyle buds in that pic look great. Saying otherwise is just picking a fight

 

[Rrog]

Single ended hps will never be obsolete.

Never! I can see it in 50 years. Hover boards and fields illuminated with HPS and digital ballasts. Yep. That's what I believe

 

[chuck estevez]

I dont want to get in the middle of this horseshit throwing contest, but I gotta say, the Realstyle buds in that pic look great. Saying otherwise is just picking a fight

then again I will ask this question. how come he didnt take pics when it was dried?

 

[a mongo frog]

Never! I can see it in 50 years. Hover boards and fields illuminated with HPS and digital ballasts. Yep. That's what I believe

Ok 50 years. Your probably right. My bad.....

 

[chuck estevez]

Just stop @chuck estevez don't get this thread closed because of your issues with cobs. The OP didn't make the light right and if it was me I would have placed some cobs over the top as well.

uh oh,chucks making good points again,. someone, and we won't mention names must be getting ready to report this thread. lol

 

[ttystikk]

Ok 50 years. Your probably right. My bad.....

Five, tops. By then, COB LED will no longer be unknown country and everyone will be wondering wtf we old timers were thinking while we cooked the terpenes off our plants with hot lights! LOL

It's my gift and my job to see into the technological future. Am I saying that no one will use them at all anymore? Nope! Didn't say that! After all, there's still guys spinning vinyl records out there...

 

[chuck estevez]

What do you mean? They look top shelf if trimmed a bit better in my opinion. I don't know either of them or have a vested interest in convincing anyone of anything.

that one is not just better trimmed, it is dry and covered in crystal,tight bud. can be sold for top dollar. probably grown under a hps

 

[a mongo frog]

Five, tops. By then, COB LED will no longer be unknown country and everyone will be wondering wtf we old timers were thinking while we cooked the terpenes off our plants with hot lights! LOL

But you know thats not true. No ones cooking terpenes off plants. And in 5 years there will be more single ended bulbs on the market then ever before.

 

[Rrog]

My house has recessed LED. Not incandescent. Light bulbs are no more.

HID is just too inefficient.

 

[chuck estevez]

I think poison and warrant are looking for some new stage lighting if you need to sell that thing you're building @ttystikk

 

[a mongo frog]

My house has recessed LED. Not incandescent. Light bulbs are no more.

HID is just too inefficient.

HID rocks for horticulture. So people like Realstyles and ttystikk are paying 16 bucks less then i am from there 800 watt cobs to my 1000 watt hps lamps. Im happy there saving that. For some reason their upset like the 16 bucks is going to brake my bank account.

 

[Rrog]

Ya. I like the cooler operating as well. There's that.

HID tech might hang out the longest as heat lamps keeping fries warm. Otherwise it's heading the way of the horse and buggy