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Ok to flip?

bravedave

Well-Known Member
Was going to flip today but every plant shot up about 6 inches the last few days so i have alot of new smaller stuff on top.

Any advantage to keeping the lights on and letting whats on top mature a bit?
 

eyeballsaul

Well-Known Member
dont just focus on height, take into account nodes and general shape.
what are you aiming for?
Are you using any training techniques?
How many different sets of branches does your plant have?
Do you have time, are you in a rush?
Depending upon your training style, usually in my opinion the longer they are in veg usually the more you will yield.
 

bravedave

Well-Known Member
dont just focus on height, take into account nodes and general shape.
what are you aiming for?
Are you using any training techniques?
How many different sets of branches does your plant have?
Do you have time, are you in a rush?
Depending upon your training style, usually in my opinion the longer they are in veg usually the more you will yield.
Height was not mentioned as a priority. That said I am attempting to go shorter this go around. Plants look great at just over 24". Usually I go 36" before flipping. I am not super concerned with yield, although I achieve over 3 zips per plant by topping the main at about 15-18" and LSTing the whole plant parallel to the ground.
But back to the original question...the growth seems to cycle a bit between new growth and height gain followed by maturing of that growth. I just had the new growth spurt so i just wondered if there was some advantage to timing it for more maturity present at the canopy top when I flip or not. Thx.
 

Maxwell's Fluff

Active Member
As I see it, whether you let it mature or not, if it's a cola site and when you flip it will become one regardless of how mature the site was. Then the plant grows it's fruits and will focus on those in best conditions (exposure, air flow, ...) so I focus on getting as many as those as I can to form a flat canopy and then flip solely based on size of plants, while always keeping flowering stretch into account. I see LST as tricking the plant into thinking some part is broken, or rather not in an optimal situation for reproduction (purpose of cola after all), so it puts energy into putting other parts in a better "position" by promoting their growth.
 

eyeballsaul

Well-Known Member
Height was not mentioned as a priority. That said I am attempting to go shorter this go around. Plants look great at just over 24". Usually I go 36" before flipping. I am not super concerned with yield, although I achieve over 3 zips per plant by topping the main at about 15-18" and LSTing the whole plant parallel to the ground.
But back to the original question...the growth seems to cycle a bit between new growth and height gain followed by maturing of that growth. I just had the new growth spurt so i just wondered if there was some advantage to timing it for more maturity present at the canopy top when I flip or not. Thx.
Yeh sure if topped in my opinion the longer you leave the top canapoy to mature the larger the colas will be at the top. if topped ideally you would want to give the new growth a chance to get growing strong branches. If the girl has strong lower branches, growing the way you want, you may decide to rely on them rather than the top colas which in that instance you may just ignore the top branches and make your decisions based on the growth of the lower branches, even going as far as to chop the top branches to ensure no energy is wasted.
I do ramble on a bit i apologise if I'm going off subject.
 

bravedave

Well-Known Member
Yeh sure if topped in my opinion the longer you leave the top canapoy to mature the larger the colas will be at the top. if topped ideally you would want to give the new growth a chance to get growing strong branches. If the girl has strong lower branches, growing the way you want, you may decide to rely on them rather than the top colas which in that instance you may just ignore the top branches and make your decisions based on the growth of the lower branches, even going as far as to chop the top branches to ensure no energy is wasted.
I do ramble on a bit i apologise if I'm going off subject.
Thx.
 
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