ttystikk
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Cuz Jesus said there was no such thing as global warming. Fox said so.
2016 even hotter than 2015 and 2014
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Padawanbater2
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According to Thickstemz, it was just some guest Fox had on, it wasn't actually Fox News itself! They're totally fair and balanced!
UncleBuck
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they are essential for balance.
ttystikk
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Balancing what? Sense vs nonsense?
Fogdog
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Your ability to process and state facts is about as weak as @Bugeye 's
Your same slogan put to a negative image. Same words conveying a very different message. No other point. Dabbing and shoveling away here.
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robbzilla
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You're so wrong girl, look at the facts. Stop listening to what they feed you through the TV, try not to be a zombie cause I really think we could be friends Buck. Look, temperature records from around the world do not support the assumption that today’s temperatures are unusual. In addition, satellite temperature data does not support the assumption that temperatures are rising rapidly. Also, current temperatures are always compared to the temperatures of the 1980’s, but for many parts of the world the 1980’s was the coldest decade of the last 100+ years. The world experienced a significant cooling trend between 1940 and 1980. and urban heat island effect skews the temperature data of a significant number of weather stations. If you knew science you'd know there is a natural inverse relationship between global temperatures and atmospheric CO2levels and the CO2 cannot, from a scientific perspective, be the cause of significant global temperature changes. As I've tried to explain in layman terms for you, there have been many periods during our recent history that a warmer climate was prevalent long before the industrial revolution. Glaciers have been melting for more than 150 years. “Data adjustment” is used to continue the perception of global warming.
Boom.
bearkat42
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What in the fuck did I just read?
ttystikk
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Lies, bullshit , unsupported conclusions and 'evidence' that directly conflicts with widely accepted data sets.
Why you trying so hard to fool smart people with stupid shit, fool?
Bill Gray, the renowned climate scientist and hurricane specialist here at CSU, has been a vociferous climate change doubter for his whole career.
He isn't doing any better with his peers than you are with us. Why?
'Evidence'. 'Scientific Method'. 'Modeling'.
Not only is Colorado State University's Atmospheric Sciences Department loaded with highly trained scientists- who all disagree with him- but they work closely with scientists at NCAR and NOAA right down the road in Boulder... who also vehemently disagree with Dr Gray and his rather thinly supported assertions.
Compared to him, you ain't got squat- and you're still wrong. Unfortunately, being wrong in this case is not harmless. Do you own stock in Duke Energy? Exxon? If you don't, you're not even in a position to profit from all the effort you're putting into the smokescreen of climate change denial.
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Fogdog
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would you care to show us that data which supports your assertion? Oh, and don't hold back with the layman terms if you want to be more precise in your explanations.
Glaciers have always melted, by the way. Not just for 150 years but forever.
robbzilla
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Do you/Did you go to CSU? Have you spoken with Bill Gray directly?
robbzilla
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Glaciers haven't always melted, that's false. How did they get there in the first place if they have always melted....come on girl. Let me teach you something, it might enlighten you. A glacier forms when snow accumulates over time, turns to ice, and begins to flow outwards and downwards under the pressure of its own weight. So as the glacier is forming it is growing, is something is growing it can't be melting. In polar and high-altitude alpine regions, glaciers generally accumulate more snow in the winter than they lose in the summer from melting, evaporation, or calving. If the accumulated snow survives one melt season, it forms a denser, more compressed layer called firn. The snow and firn are further compressed by overlying snowfall, and the buried layers slowly grow together to form a thickened mass of ice.
You see?
Fogdog
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Oh really? What is the mechanism by which snow turns into glacial ice? What reduces friction between glacial ice and rock that allows glaciers to move? Much is shown in your insecure little sneering diatribe that broadcasts your ignorance.
Glaciers can't form ice from snow and they can't move unless some of that frozen water melts. So, yes, glaciers always melt. Sorry to tell you, snowflake but you aren't as smart as your mother told you. Glaciers grow when precipitation in the form of frozen water accumulates faster than than it melts.
Worldwide, net glacial ice coverage has been shrinking over the past decades. This is fact. The reason glaciers are shrinking is because global temperatures are rising. Also fact. Why do right wingers have such difficulty with facts?
Also, where is this data of yours that backs up this claim:
"satellite temperature data does not support the assumption that temperatures are rising rapidly"
When you show this data, it will be clear to all that you are another ignoramus whose mind is deluded by industrial lobbyist propaganda. I can understand why you won't post it. But that just makes you not only a coward but an ignorant one.
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UncleBuck
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no one is assuming that january and february of 2016 were abnormally hot, we know it is so and we know it because of the temperature records.
lol.
no.
and the temperatures from the last two months are being compared to the baseline temps from 1980 to 2010.
so not only are you wrong, you're pointlessly wrong.
you clearly have no idea what an inverse relationship is.
inverse means that when one goes down, the other goes up.
does that happen with CO@ and temperatures?
you tell me.
and since CO2 is a greenhouse gas, it absolutely can be the cause of higher temperatures. that is basic science for a 7 year old.
sorry you keep embarrassing yourself.
Fogdog
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@ThickStemz would call that graph random. LOLno one is assuming that january and february of 2016 were abnormally hot, we know it is so and we know it because of the temperature records.
lol.
no.
and the temperatures from the last two months are being compared to the baseline temps from 1980 to 2010.
so not only are you wrong, you're pointlessly wrong.
you clearly have no idea what an inverse relationship is.
inverse means that when one goes down, the other goes up.
does that happen with CO@ and temperatures?
you tell me.
and since CO2 is a greenhouse gas, it absolutely can be the cause of higher temperatures. that is basic science for a 7 year old.
sorry you keep embarrassing yourself.
ThickStemz
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One could call the pattern in it random. If you're blaming the current high levels of CO2 mostly on mans activity, I would only ask you what caused the similar spike in CO2 from apx 130k years ago?
It looks just as dramatic as the current one. I must have missed the advanced human civilization that was thriving 130k years ago in my world history classes in high school and college.
ThickStemz
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You want to ad a wager to your claims?
Obama not increasing our debt by even one penny? "This democrat has not added a penny to the debt" being your exact statement.
UncleBuck
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obama has not added a penny to the debt. all the debt being accumulate is the fault of the guy before him, who inherited a surplus and left the largest deficit of all time.
bush inherited that surplus from clinton, the other democrat that did not add a penny to ronald reagan's debt.
all obama has done is to prevent trillions of dollars from being added to the debt, since he has cut the deficit by over a trillion dollars per year.
not his fault that george w bush created a $1.539 trillion dollar annual deficit.
Fogdog
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Haaahaahaaaaa, @ThickStemz you are always ready to play the fool. Nothing in that graph is random. Everything in it has an assignable cause. Maybe we don't know what all those causes are but those rises and falls in temp and CO2 are anything but random.
Do you actually think that the earth's temperature could go up or down by several degrees C due to nothing at all?
ttystikk
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Yes, BS Business Adminstration and Entrepreneurship, class of '95.
Not only have I met Dr. Gray and several of his peers, I've delivered lab equipment to the facility.
I currently live an easy bike ride from the Foothills Campus, where it's located. Ft Collins is a nice place!
ThickStemz
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That's a very superficial answer.
So the current spike that isn't much bigger than any of the other very recent ones is all man's fault.
But those other recent ones aren't random. They're the result of random events. Huge volcano pops off, random event, co2 spikes 130k years ago.
Idk if it was a volcano or what but it certinlty wasn't suvs burning fossil fuels.