Why I will vote for Hillary..

lawlrus

lawlrus

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ttystikk said:
There's not one thing wrong with being a single issue voter, as long as you understand the larger implications.

I'M a single issue voter this year; I'm voting for empowering the people against the corporate owned State. I am not surprised my vote is being suppressed, and I'm well aware that I'm not alone.
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I understand what you're saying and to your point, I'm on board with the idea that we have to find a way to get our country to a place where we as common citizens are able to influence the direction of the US in a constructive way rather than allowing the oligarchy to control it (and us, by extension). I would also say that this go-round with Sanders is the first time I've ever legitimately been voting FOR someone rather than just against somebody. I don't agree with several of his positions but I'm willing to forego these to place my vote with someone who I feel will have the integrity to accomplish what needs to be done.

I just want to know what our realistic option is if and when he loses the nomination and we're forced to once again choose between getting cancer or AIDS again, if I can be so eloquent. Simply saying we need to rise up at a grass roots level and overcome is not enough. We have to come up with a realistic plan that can play the appropriate angles without going down the wrong avenues like most of the current protests are (i.e. violence and intolerance in the name of peace and tolerance). Honestly, I'm a bleeding heart liberal weenie about most issues short of some fiscal policy and and I'm absolutely embarrassed by what people claiming to be supporters of free speech and intelligent discourse have done in the name of the anti-establishment movement that is currently embodied on the left by Sanders.

I think that's why Trump has become so popular so quickly -- he is still viewed as anti-establishment (which is laughable at best, but that's neither here nor there) and can claim not to be in anyone's pocket, which is why a sizable percentage of independent Sanders supporters will end up jumping ship come time for the general. Personally, I'll write in a vote before I'll choose between what I'm given if my first choice isn't on the ballot, but that's not terribly constructive either in the long run.

I'm definitely open to hearing some realistic options for how to get this country back on track, without a doubt...
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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lawlrus said:
I understand what you're saying and to your point, I'm on board with the idea that we have to find a way to get our country to a place where we as common citizens are able to influence the direction of the US in a constructive way rather than allowing the oligarchy to control it (and us, by extension). I would also say that this go-round with Sanders is the first time I've ever legitimately been voting FOR someone rather than just against somebody. I don't agree with several of his positions but I'm willing to forego these to place my vote with someone who I feel will have the integrity to accomplish what needs to be done.

I just want to know what our realistic option is if and when he loses the nomination and we're forced to once again choose between getting cancer or AIDS again, if I can be so eloquent. Simply saying we need to rise up at a grass roots level and overcome is not enough. We have to come up with a realistic plan that can play the appropriate angles without going down the wrong avenues like most of the current protests are (i.e. violence and intolerance in the name of peace and tolerance). Honestly, I'm a bleeding heart liberal weenie about most issues short of some fiscal policy and and I'm absolutely embarrassed by what people claiming to be supporters of free speech and intelligent discourse have done in the name of the anti-establishment movement that is currently embodied on the left by Sanders.

I think that's why Trump has become so popular so quickly -- he is still viewed as anti-establishment (which is laughable at best, but that's neither here nor there) and can claim not to be in anyone's pocket, which is why a sizable percentage of independent Sanders supporters will end up jumping ship come time for the general. Personally, I'll write in a vote before I'll choose between what I'm given if my first choice isn't on the ballot, but that's not terribly constructive either in the long run.

I'm definitely open to hearing some realistic options for how to get this country back on track, without a doubt...
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I hear you, and I agree with every word.

ORGANIZE.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ODanksta said:
I am from Texas where most Mexicans are illegal
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go ahead and try to cite that.

i will excuse this lapse of judgment and moment of stupidity from you.

for fuck sake, 70% of hispanics in texas are born in texas.

on second though, don't even try to cite that bullshit. it's impossible.
 
M

MjAeJdIiK

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ODanksta said:
Well I guess you can choose pics that you like. But these are the first couple pics that should up on google..


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But I have said this since day one.. I still believe that all this is staged. That Trump and Hillary are on the team to ensure that she wins..


But I honestly haven't seen anything truly racist from Trump. To be honest I love the Mexican culture, everything about. The girls, the food and the families stick together..

But something seriously need to be done about the borders, atleast in the system we have set in place. I don't believe in borders, but we have already fucked that up a long time ago..

But I am from Texas where most Mexicans are illegal and crime is insane from mexican gangs, but in Colorado all the mexicans speak perfect english and crime doesn't really exsist. I feel if you live north of mason dixie line you opinion is invalid..
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No way man, its not.like that up north anymore, lots of Mexicans now, tons bro. We.got the gangs to go with it too... surenos in new england???,that's a trip,but they are here. I lived in Texas so I do know what you mean. And idk about the 70% of Mexicans in Texas are born in Texas.... When I was in Texas it was the exact opposite it seems like. But seriously, fuck Texas dude, that state is full of racists, I have never seen more blatent racism than in Texas... I was arrested and put on probation for 5 years for 2 joint Roach's, and while in jail waiting to go see the judge( they wouldn't even give me a bail for 4 days..) The sheriff of potter county told me I was "worse than a nigger" because I am white with dreadlocks. Fuck Texas. Middle america is FULL of people like that sheriff, that's why we are doomed with trump. Trump is a clown bit he's our next president, and we will continue to be the worlds disgusting reality TV show/joke. If I was smart I would move to Canada while I still can..
 
ODanksta

ODanksta

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UncleBuck said:
you have been fooled then.




hispanics hate trump. statistics do not lie.
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Well next I'd ask with that chart, would be, are these statics from only documented or undocumented citizens? How many people were asked, who collected the data, was it nationwide or was it a small local pole.

I could literally ask a poll in Iraq about our politics, post it. But it wouldn't prove nothing unless I included the details about where the data was collected..
 
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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ODanksta said:
So this is the fucking deal.

First off I've been drink so fuck you.
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i've been drinking too. no need for the hatred though. you said something that is false.


70% of hisopanics in texas were born in texas. they are americans first and foremost. they are also hispanic by heritage.

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don't shoot the messenger on this one.

and yes, trump has the worst poll numbers with hispanics, legal or not, of any candidate in history.

hispanics fucking hate trump.
 
ODanksta

ODanksta

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UncleBuck said:
i've been drinking too. no need for the hatred though. you said something that is false.


70% of hisopanics in texas were born in texas. they are americans first and foremost. they are also hispanic by heritage.

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don't shoot the messenger on this one.

and yes, trump has the worst poll numbers with hispanics, legal or not, of any candidate in history.

hispanics fucking hate trump.
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Lol my bad bro, you caught that before the edit.. I had started a post ealier, that was still attached to that post..

I wouldn't tell you, fuck you, No matter what your political values are..

I just like to bring up uncomfortable discussions so I can learn more.

I have admittedly said multiple times that I know very little bit about politics.

But on a positive note, you guys are teaching me a lot. And I am not bias to a political party because I don't know who I believe.



But I do have a question, is there any independents running this election?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
i've been drinking too. no need for the hatred though. you said something that is false.


70% of hisopanics in texas were born in texas. they are americans first and foremost. they are also hispanic by heritage.

View attachment 3636964

don't shoot the messenger on this one.

and yes, trump has the worst poll numbers with hispanics, legal or not, of any candidate in history.

hispanics fucking hate trump.
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They show good judgment, it seems. Poor white mostly rural mostly male voters in large numbers apparently do not.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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UncleBuck said:
i've been drinking too. no need for the hatred though. you said something that is false.


70% of hisopanics in texas were born in texas. they are americans first and foremost. they are also hispanic by heritage.

View attachment 3636964

don't shoot the messenger on this one.

and yes, trump has the worst poll numbers with hispanics, legal or not, of any candidate in history.

hispanics fucking hate trump.
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That`s legal Hispanics, not Hispanics.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Not GOP said:
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All of the conservative candidates with the exception of Christie have said the same thing not only about MJ legalization but other issues - leave it up to the states to decide. The feds need to back off this stuff and Obama has failed as have other liberals before him like Clinton.

Look.......for you one ticket voters, MJ legalization, Democratic leaders are not your friend. When are you guys ever gonna learn you've been conned?
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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ODanksta said:
Well I guess you can choose pics that you like. But these are the first couple pics that should up on google..


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But I have said this since day one.. I still believe that all this is staged. That Trump and Hillary are on the team to ensure that she wins..


But I honestly haven't seen anything truly racist from Trump. To be honest I love the Mexican culture, everything about. The girls, the food and the families stick together..

But something seriously need to be done about the borders, atleast in the system we have set in place. I don't believe in borders, but we have already fucked that up a long time ago..

But I am from Texas where most Mexicans are illegal and crime is insane from mexican gangs, but in Colorado all the mexicans speak perfect english and crime doesn't really exsist. I feel if you live north of mason dixie line you opinion is invalid..
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Of course it's staged. They kick black folks out of their rallies every single day.
 
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