EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
It needs to go over the cliff, or I fear the effort is all for naught. And that would be a terrible shame.
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First off, it aint over til its over

Second, that message will live past this cycle. The people that "got it" best were young. I don't think everything ends if the rock doesn't make it all the way to the top this round.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
First off, it aint over til its over

Second, that message will live past this cycle. The people that "got it" best were young. I don't think everything ends if the rock doesn't make it all the way to the top this round.
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I hear you- but if the powers that be manage to deny our Sisyphian efforts this election cycle, that rock won't be this close to the cliff for a very long time... and those who make it their business to sway elections in a thousand different ways know this. After all, they know they only have power as long as they can keep it out of the hands of the people
 
newgrower89

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Before I post in this I just realized I haven't watched any politics...since the Iowa caucus. And then I heard about the New Hampshire results. I really should check on super Tuesday results. Ok well that was disappointing. I'm wondering if I am going to irritate off Republicans and Democrats with this because by definition either of them has been led to believe they have choices in a democracy. And surprisingly most people in this country, especially older generations, actually believe there vote is counted.

So all you Bernie Sanders supporters. I like the guy and I believe he honestly wants what's he thinks is best for us. But apparently he forgot about all the people that funded the rise of the Bolshevik revolution, then the rise of Hitler, then the founding of the UN. The united nations was formed 3 weeks after ww2 on a military base in San Francisco as an organization of war. Then the European Union was the next great socialist Paradise with one currency. They can't even keep it together its a fucking disaster.

I WAS BORN a democrat. I taught myself to be a democratic socialist listening to "brunch with Bernie" on tom Hartman all the time for 5 years in prison. But then I learned about who brought about socialism. Good example of sick twisted rich people funding something is the Rockefeller's giving millions to the feminist movement. " we can have twice as many tax payers? Ok women's rights we will call it"

I know as much as I an capable of knowing about who runs our planet with the resources I have available to me. Please, ask a ?. You think any of this is bull shit? Let me prove it to you with the facts.

I'm not a trump supporter per say. I'd gladly take trump or sanders over any of those clowns. Although I'd rather have ROn Paul, his son sold out to the Israel lobby long ago.

I just want you 50 year old bleeding heart Democrats to realize the reason we became so strong was because of entrepreneurial spirited people that were able to compete with the rober barons of the late 1800s and 1900s enough to at least survive. Now small businesses are dead. Rober barons don't have to print there net worth in Forbes.

Ok I just woke up and felt a spark of political passion..back to these titanium scissors ...snip snip snip.... Lol
 
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newgrower89 said:
Before I post in this I just realized I haven't watched any politics...since the Iowa caucus. And then I heard about the New Hampshire results. I really should check on super Tuesday results. Ok well that was disappointing. I'm wondering if I am going to irritate off Republicans and Democrats with this because by definition either of them has been led to believe they have choices in a democracy. And surprisingly most people in this country, especially older generations, actually believe there vote is counted.

So all you Bernie Sanders supporters. I like the guy and I believe he honestly wants what's he thinks is best for us. But apparently he forgot about all the people that funded the rise of the Bolshevik revolution, then the rise of Hitler, then the founding of the UN. The united nations was formed 3 weeks after ww2 on a military base in San Francisco as an organization of war. Then the European Union was the next great socialist Paradise with one currency. They can't even keep it together its a fucking disaster.

I WAS BORN a democrat. I taught myself to be a democratic socialist listening to "brunch with Bernie" on tom Hartman all the time for 5 years in prison. But then I learned about who brought about socialism. Good example of sick twisted rich people funding something is the Rockefeller's giving millions to the feminist movement. " we can have twice as many tax payers? Ok women's rights we will call it"

I know as much as I an capable of knowing about who runs our planet with the resources I have available to me. Please, ask a ?. You think any of this is bull shit? Let me prove it to you with the facts.

I'm not a trump supporter per say. I'd gladly take trump or sanders over any of those clowns. Although I'd rather have ROn Paul, his son sold out to the Israel lobby long ago.

I just want you 50 year old bleeding heart Democrats to realize the reason we became so strong was because of entrepreneurial spirited people that were able to compete with the rober barons of the late 1800s and 1900s enough to at least survive. Now small businesses are dead. Rober barons don't have to print there net worth in Forbes.

Ok I just woke up and felt a spark of political passion..back to these titanium scissors ...snip snip snip.... Lol
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you're pretty young to have been in prison for 5 years..what happened?
 
newgrower89

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Didn't mean to post that soon..I got probation twice. I finally told my po I wasn't going to quit smoking weed and I was sick of asking for my roommates piss to pass with lol. I thought I'd get a year or less and I was ok with that for it to be over. I knew I wouldn't make probation I was 18-21. I did 2 3/4 years. Got out and it would take a thread to tell you all the dumb shit i did the last week of parole. Needless to say it was my own stupidity that got me the last 2 years. I saved 2700 before I got out during my last 10 months at the work release center. Should have been close to 10...but like always I cut it close to the point where I was cuffed up and taken to holding. I beat my "IDC court", got back out working, made parole. I saved another almost 3 grand that I came out here with. And now I'm sitting in a house with more stuff going down than I ever dreamed of seeing!

I love it out here and I'll never go back!!!
 
newgrower89

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Well it means everyone on both sides of my family votes Democrat. So statistically, I'd say the odds of me becoming one are pretty high. I'm not a republican either. I want to start over.
 
bearkat42

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newgrower89 said:
Well it means everyone on both sides of my family votes Democrat. So statistically, I'd say the odds of me becoming one are pretty high. I'm not a republican either. I want to start over.
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And you're good with what you've seen from trump so far? Care to explain why? I'd honestly love to hear your thoughts on his actual policies. You know, something a little deeper than "I'm gonna build a wall, and Mexico is gonna pay for it.".
 
newgrower89

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If he will really demand import tariffs from companies if they build plants over seas, that will do way more than anything I've heard from any candidate on either side. THAT IS HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDED ITSELF BEFORE 1913, and Woodrow Wilson was a sure thing because they ran a 3rd party candidate. Then he signed the Federal Reserve Act and implemented an income tax to pay the debt. What people dont get about fractional reserve banking is that these are private corporations owned by private individuals that loan money to us at interest. And the constitution doesn't give them the power to do that. And if you think what I'm saying isn't true then so some research because it has been published ..the names of the people that owned the stock.. In the 1913 New York Times. Look it up. Don't take my word for it.

So ya if he did just that...sounds a lot better than anything else I've heard. Free trade is only good for mega corporations. I also don't think trump will let people intimidate him. Bernie sanders will get the talk the day of his inauguration. You don't think they threaten presidents? Ask the Kennedy's about it. At least trump might hire his own thugs to stand up to them. I think he's dumb, polically naive ..horrible on war. It your side has Hillary rigged and won't let bernie get his votes counted on anything but the e voting machines that bush rigged the elections with. Look up Greg ballast he was an American journalist they moved to the UK because the BBC would air his reports. He reported all over European media his bush stole the election in Florida by using the e voting machines and kicking felons and black people off the elegibility list. My mom lives in Florida and I've met people this happened to. The Bush's and Clinton's have been friends for years. They go to each others weddings. I could list facts for days but I won't waste my breath because you probably won't take the time to look up any of this... So what's the point?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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newgrower89 said:
I could list facts for days but I won't waste my breath because you probably won't take the time to look up any of this... So what's the point?
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You don't know this crowd, therefore it is unwise to make insulting assumptions about their intelligence or willingness to do their homework. Makes you look bad, bro.

In fact, I'd pay very careful attention to what they have to say, on all sides of the discussion. You'll figure out who's prepared and who's spewing propaganda soon enough- at which point you'll know whom to insult! :mrgreen:
 
newgrower89

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I hope they do the home work. I'm all about proving my point. I just knew I was going to get a response exactly like that. And I knew how I'd respond. Its typical of someone who lives in a left vs right political world. I'm not trying to insult anyone..but that is how everyone debates and it drives me nuts. There's a lot more that 2 views to the issues. I've watched this thread since it's inception here and there. And that's all I've seen. I haven't read much of the last couple months of it though so I can't speak to that.

Democrats hate Donald Trump. That's one reason I like him. Ill vote for him just for 4 years of great comedy if any thing. I have no faith in our electoral process. Its rigged. I'm not buying that bernie is losing to Hilary by that much. So trump or bernie is at least some kind of change. That's all I'm advocating. Something different.
 
newgrower89

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Go vote man. I didn't post that to start an argument with you. I've seen what our government is capable of. I have such little faith in our system, that yes I don't think it matters a damn bit who they elect. Because sheep will bow down to them and let then elect an evil psycho killer lady. When if you started raising a real fuss over the primaries bernie is having stolen from him, maybe your vote would matter! But until we actually count votes...and have a paper receipt backup that we can recount. PLEASE TELL ME WHY I SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR GOOD COMEDY? If you can't see this country is to the point where we need revolution, or at least start out like Iceland and jail all the bankers. There's a socialist model I can dig. What did they do after 2008? They jailed there 1%! And they have been doing just fine since. I'm on your side. But because I have good things to say about trumps trade policy's...

Oh and I just remembered where I first heard someone advocating those trade policies.

Brunch with bernie! Every Friday on the tom Hartman program. As left as it gets. He was talking about how our federal government ran on tariffs, and how Nixon and the old Ron said "fuck that let's make it all in China". Its been getting worse. Oh yeah.

This whole thing started in a personal conversation when I sent them this picture. I saw this on I70 last Sunday at about 3 pm. If this doesn't scare you then I really don't know what to say. Well I have to close some programs for my phone to have memory to upload it give me a sec. There are 2 of them but you can only see the one in front. It's a military armored vehicle with a guy standing out of it.
 
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