9 different strains in 3 different batches of soil ALL ABOUT TO DIE? What do I do ??

Strangeways said:
So just so I'm clear
All you guys agree this is a potassium deficiency?
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Starting from the bottom would be deficiency.
Why would it happen at week 2 of veg? Either from too much CA or not enough K. If your tap water is high in calcium, it will start to lock up K and your plant will start moving slowly. Try to look up the water quality if your area and it will give you an idea of what you have actually been feeding through tap water. I've never seen this problem but it seems possible.
 
SPLFreak808 said:
Starting from the bottom would be deficiency.
Why would it happen at week 2 of veg? Either from too much CA or not enough K. If your tap water is high in calcium, it will start to lock up K and your plant will start moving slowly. Try to look up the water quality if your area and it will give you an idea of what you have actually been feeding through tap water. I've never seen this problem but it seems possible.
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Ok
Might switch to rain water just to see
It must be something to do with the water it's the only constant other than light and this is across every plant and you guys already ruled out too much light
Thanks
 
Strangeways said:
Is that the info we need
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Yes. Its not crazy hard in Ca but its enough to cause a problem in the long run, especially if that organic all purpose mix has dolo lime/oyster flour in it. Eventuality you will need to use R\O with a little cal mag or try the rainwater like you said. I would start with some R\O with a half tablespoon of epsom salt for the first few waterings though,might even need some k. Sorry im not familiar with bio all-mix and hopefully you solve the problem. The plant ia getting fed whatever the soil is giving it but its for sure getting fed a nice supply of calcium every time you've watered it.
 
Strangeways said:
But it effects(starts) when only weeks old
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Ok, so one problem at a time. The plant in the pictures is a few weeks away from finishing. No matter what store bought soil you bought, you will have problems unless youre feeding the plant. Thats youre problem. Whatever all these other guys are trying to pinpoint anything for is silly. Just feed it because its starving with no food in it, like what are you going to do, go buy some potassium? No man, the plant needs all three macros if youve been starving it the whole way. Just go buy a two part synthetic and hit it. Dont waste the time for organics to break down in the soil, hit it with some fast acting plant fuel and try and save the harvest.
 
Alienwidow said:
Ok, so one problem at a time. The plant in the pictures is a few weeks away from finishing. No matter what store bought soil you bought, you will have problems unless youre feeding the plant. Thats youre problem. Whatever all these other guys are trying to pinpoint anything for is silly. Just feed it because its starving with no food in it, like what are you going to do, go buy some potassium? No man, the plant needs all three macros if youve been starving it the whole way. Just go buy a two part synthetic and hit it. Dont waste the time for organics to break down in the soil, hit it with some fast acting plant fuel and try and save the harvest.
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I got bio grow bloom and top max here should I hit them with any of those or they not what you're talking about?
Struggling to find dyna gro protect here in the uk
Not up on nutes (obviously hence the problem)
Foolishly thought could just plant in all mix and water
Live n learn
 
Strangeways said:
I got bio grow bloom and top max here should I hit them with any of those or they not what you're talking about?
Struggling to find dyna gro protect here in the uk
Not up on nutes (obviously hence the problem)
Foolishly thought could just plant in all mix and water
Live n learn
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Yes, if you already have bloom food then start using it. I checked the npk on the bloom and its a little strange but if you mix it with the top max it might? Make a more even npk i would hope....Feed every second or third watering at about 70% of what they reccomend. (Youre plants pretty small compared to what a full dose would feed) Also you may want to feed two times in a row and then every other time after that. The plant wont heal itself but the damage should stop from getting much worse.

Next grow, when those plants get over 12" tall start feeding them. Always start really low and then work your way up. You totally dont have to feed every time. And you also dont have to feed at full strength. The plant should guide you as to how much to feed it. If there's yellowing you arent feeding enough, or arent feeding enough of something specific.
If its getting almost black green, or the leaves are starting to claw, or the tips are burning, you are over feeding.
Thats how to watch the plant to read if youre over or under feeding. They dont come with dipsticks like cars to check the oil but theyll still tell you if they need things if you can learn what to look for.

The way i feed is i start nutrients in soil after plants are about a foot. A couple weeks later i start adding a calmag supplement. I run grow (n heavy) food until week 3.5 of flower and then i mix grow/bloom 50/50 for a week and then do a pk boost with bloom food for about weekish to week 6.5. Then its back to bloom nutes but ill keep lowering them until the end. I also drop the calmag for the last weekish. Plants dont eat much at the end but they still eat! So dont just flush with water and starve it when its trying to bulk the last couple weeks.

Thats how i do it. Im not suggesting you do exactly what i do. I just gave you an idea on what feeding is all about. Now just remember its the soil that grows the plant and not the fertilizer and youll be fine. Its always better to under feed a bit than over feed a lot. Unfortunately youve underfed a lot which believe it or not is an uncommon problem, most people over feed.
 
Alienwidow said:
Yes, if you already have bloom food then start using it. I checked the npk on the bloom and its a little strange but if you mix it with the top max it might? Make a more even npk i would hope....Feed every second or third watering at about 70% of what they reccomend. (Youre plants pretty small compared to what a full dose would feed) Also you may want to feed two times in a row and then every other time after that. The plant wont heal itself but the damage should stop from getting much worse.

Next grow, when those plants get over 12" tall start feeding them. Always start really low and then work your way up. You totally dont have to feed every time. And you also dont have to feed at full strength. The plant should guide you as to how much to feed it. If there's yellowing you arent feeding enough, or arent feeding enough of something specific.
If its getting almost black green, or the leaves are starting to claw, or the tips are burning, you are over feeding.
Thats how to watch the plant to read if youre over or under feeding. They dont come with dipsticks like cars to check the oil but theyll still tell you if they need things if you can learn what to look for.

The way i feed is i start nutrients in soil after plants are about a foot. A couple weeks later i start adding a calmag supplement. I run grow (n heavy) food until week 3.5 of flower and then i mix grow/bloom 50/50 for a week and then do a pk boost with bloom food for about weekish to week 6.5. Then its back to bloom nutes but ill keep lowering them until the end. I also drop the calmag for the last weekish. Plants dont eat much at the end but they still eat! So dont just flush with water and starve it when its trying to bulk the last couple weeks.

Thats how i do it. Im not suggesting you do exactly what i do. I just gave you an idea on what feeding is all about. Now just remember its the soil that grows the plant and not the fertilizer and youll be fine. Its always better to under feed a bit than over feed a lot. Unfortunately youve underfed a lot which believe it or not is an uncommon problem, most people over feed.
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Ok thanks I'll mix up some bloom and max and hit them with that.
Thought the first run was too easy to be true
Seed to crop nothing but tap water
Didn't plan on all this with autos thought they were kinda simpler/indestructible...another error by me
I've got to google the basics of nutes you're all speaking npk and I don't even know what that means
Out my depth :(
 
Strangeways said:
Ok thanks I'll mix up some bloom and max and hit them with that.
Thought the first run was too easy to be true
Seed to crop nothing but tap water
Didn't plan on all this with autos thought they were kinda simpler/indestructible...another error by me
I've got to google the basics of nutes you're all speaking npk and I don't even know what that means
Out my depth :(
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Scrub that I now got an idea so k is potassium (why wouldn't it be!!?)
So I've found some dyna grow here in the uk and its 0-0-3
Obviously that'll fix this potassium problem but am I better off just getting something with n and p in it too ?
If so any recommendations ?
Sorry everyone but we all gotta learn sometime right?
 
Strangeways said:
Scrub that I now got an idea so k is potassium (why wouldn't it be!!?)
So I've found some dyna grow here in the uk and its 0-0-3
Obviously that'll fix this potassium problem but am I better off just getting something with n and p in it too ?
If so any recommendations ?
Sorry everyone but we all gotta learn sometime right?
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Dont get something thats just high in one macro nutrient. Like i said before, add that crap you already have. Its more balanced than just something high in one. If you havent fed anything yet you are low in everything. Feed accordingly. Ahh fuck it, im wasting my time here.
 
Alienwidow said:
Dont get something thats just high in one macro nutrient. Like i said before, add that crap you already have. Its more balanced than just something high in one. If you havent fed anything yet you are low in everything. Feed accordingly. Ahh fuck it, im wasting my time here.
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That was my point
Before yesterday I knew nothing about nutes.
Now thanks to you and numerous other people on here's input I'm starting to...but notice there's slight (one polar opposite) differences in opinion.
All I'm doing is making sure I get it right I'm not made of money plus sounds like I'm at a critical stage.
I'm about to add bio nutes.
Don't take offence like I say we all gotta learn
 
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