Also the petioles to veins are very purple/red it's even on the stem/stock, stem/stock is purple in parts not whole thing (some almost have purple and green stripes up the stem/stock) on some not all. Those ones do have necrotic spots which are some of the photos from original post.
Some are way taller; potassium.
Leafs are curling up when finally dead/dying but start with tips down and little burns on edge of leaf. Very similar to this pic in my book by Ed Rosenthal making me think its phosphorus.
Anything helps thanks!