Donald Trump

[londonfog]

This makes me sad. Oh well. Good luck in the "industry"
Who cares about trump!

not in the "industry" anymore. I empty coins from machines and regulate.
You do realize this is a Trump thread...just saying

 

[OddBall1st]

It's already been discussed here as to where I got my degree. you can used the search feature. I for one don't care what you think. I know what I know and you can believe what you want. If it makes you feel better, you can just believe I don't have BS in aerospace. Makes no difference to me what someone on the internet thinks of me.
Trump got crushed in Kansas

See, he can`t win them all, but that`s not the goal. You only need win enough.

 

[757growin]

not in the "industry" anymore. I empty coins from machines and regulate.
You do realize this is a Trump thread...just saying

I'm here for the Trump kooks. Trump doesn't stop in here. I love good laughs and foolishness

 

[londonfog]

See, he can`t win them all, but that`s not the goal. You only need win enough.

Trump does not what to make this a brokered convention.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

And that is the real sad thing we will never know we are just puppets but if Your Government already has lied to you what makes you think the moon landing or 911 was anything different then one big lie

Right now, looking under the hood of that expensive item called "government", we see a unified group of men and women who lied to send your children off to a war of conquest. Across this land there are thousands of families waking up to the knowledge that their sons and daughters were crippled and killed in Iraq for reasons other than what they were told.

First off, let's dispense with this crap about "Intelligence failures". An Intelligence Failure is when something is happening that you don't know about. You miss the evidence. Or you misinterpret the evidence you have.

But with regards to the claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, there was no evidence to miss or misinterpret. There could not be, since in hindsight there were no weapons to leave traces of evidence with. The story about weapons of mass destruction was just made up, and fraudulently manufactured "proof" created to support that lie. The mere existence of Tony Blair's dossier, plagiarized from a student thesis, is proof not only that the claims of Iraq WMDs were lies, but were known and conscious lies. Had their been any real proof, it would have been shared immediately between the various war-mongers. There would have been no need for Tony Blair to concoct his discredited Dossier. But, what the public were offered were mislabeled and blurry photos, made up dossiers, and balloon inflators misidentified as mobile biological weapons laboratories (which the British government knew about since they had sold the balloon inflators to Iraq in the first place).

So, there was no "intelligence failure". There was no intelligence with which to fail. The whole crock about Iraqi WMDs was a made-up fiction.

The government lied.

While only a few people created the lie, mostly connected with the Pentagon's Office of Special Projects and presumably via the Israeli spies since discovered within, coordinated with the similar propaganda group working out of Ariel Sharon's office, the fact is that the entire United States Government and the mainstream media news departments all signed onto that lie with a will. Now, news pundits and some members of Congress have since taken the position they ohgollygeewhiz but they were taken in by the lies as well. But this is just another face-saving deception. There is such a thing as due diligence and checking facts; behaviors expected of both journalists and congresscritters. Months before the invasion of Iraq, internet web sites like this one, using easily available facts, had discredited the claims of Iraq's WMDs, exposed Tony Blair's plagiarized dossier, and correctly identified those trailers as the balloon inflators they were. It must be assumed that Congressional offices and media corporations with large staffs and huge budgets would have had an easy time finding the same facts that web sites operating on spare change were able to find. Therefore, going along with the lies about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had to be an intentional act of will.

The government lied.

What does it mean to live under a government that lies to you?

Is the war just, moral, and necessary? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Are taxes legal and fair? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Is the public money being spent wholly on the public? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Are you really free? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Is life in this nation really better than anywhere else? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

When you live under a government that lies, you cannot know anything for certain about your lives. All you can know is what you are told. And, because of the lies about the Iraq WMDs, what we know we are told is what the government tells us to trick us into agreeing with whatever their own purpose happens to be. And if, whether you know it or not, are are doing what the government wants, even to the deaths of your own children, then you are a slave.

Americans are the most lied-to people on Earth. The global perception of the "Ugly American" isn't that we are ugly, but that we are so clueless about what is going on in the world, in particular the evils committed by the United States Government using our taxes and children behind our backs. Our government craps on other peoples' nations, while we are told that those people love us, sit up nights to admire us, and lead good moral lives so that when they die, their souls will go to America. And when we visit those countries where the US Government plays their covert games, our delusions run headlong into their reality, and feelings (and if we are lucky, little else) get hurt.

Baby sitters will often give their children a choice of whether to go to bed at 7:30 or at 8:00. The child will choose 8:00 and go to bed happy thinking that he or she had a choice. But the agenda of the baby sitter was to have the child in bed by 8:00 before the arrival of another guest at 8:30. The child has been tricked into doing what the baby sitter wanted, while thinking the choice was theirs. That is how mind control, or brainwashing works; by giving the target ONLY those facts which will lead them to conclude, seemingly of their own free will, that their only course of action was what the government wanted in the first place.

 

[OddBall1st]

But hey everyone agree it was the terrorists that did the trade center Because they told us so right ???? and lets not forget the 1975 tower fire shold of brought her down then.
DID IT ????
All buildings and most bridges have what we call redundant design. If one component breaks, the whole thing will not come crashing down. I once worked on a high-rise in New York, for example, that had a nine-foot-high beam that had a crack all the way through one of the main beams in the basement. This was along the approach to the George Washington Bridge. They shored it up and kept traffic from using that area.

Some people were concerned the building would fall down. The structural engineers knew it wouldn't, because the whole thing had an egg-crate-like construction. Or you can think of it as a net. If you lose one string on a net, yes, the net is weakened but the rest of the net still works.

Truth is in time it will all come out

Maybe you are not up to par on what 3,500 degrees does to steel of any kind. The buildings turned themselves into foundry`s because of the fire and winds. Redundant design does not protect the building from missiles.

 

[OddBall1st]

Trump does not what to make this a brokered convention.

Some things are just simply out of Trump`s hands. He is aware of it. He`ll be biting his nails on election day like the rest.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

That is what happened in Iraq. The public were all told by the government and media that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could be deployed in just 45 minutes. And, based on that claim and the absence of any facts to the contrary (except here on the internet) many Americans decided that the war was necessary and felt that had come to that decision of their own free will. In hindsight, of course, that decision was not of their own free will but was the desired outcome of the manufactured lies about Iraq. Those that doubted the lies at the start were dismissed with the assurance that the mainstream media, serving as a watchdog on government abuse, would expose lies if they existed. Again in hindsight, the media was working hand in glove to sell those very lies to the people whose taxes and children were spent on the sands of Iraq.

The Declaration of Independence declares the principle that government derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. I DO NOT GIVE MY CONSENT TO BE LIED TO, I don't know anyone who gives their consent to be lied to. Moreover, one cannot give consent to be lied to because one cannot know what one is consenting to. No court would enforce a contract where one party does not know the terms of the contract being agreed to.

The Constitution does not authorize the government to lie to We The People. The tenth amendment bars the government from presuming that right. When the government lies, it therefore acts unconstitutionally and illegally. A government that lies to the people breaks faith with the people, violates the contract between the government and the people under which the people consent to be governed. A government that lies to the people delegitimizes itself. A government that lies to the people ceases to be the lawful government of this land. Surely the lies used to initiate a war of conquest into another nation are the worst possible lies a government can commit against its own people. And with such a lie, the United States ceases to be a nation, and becomes a land under occupation by force.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

Some things are just simply out of Trump`s hands. He is aware of it. He`ll be biting his nails on election day like the rest.

LMAO fuck me here steel melts @ 2750 degrees Jet fuel AKA Kerosene only burns @ 800 degrees F
keep thinking

 

[doublejj]

LMAO fuck me here steel melts @ 2750 degrees Jet fuel AKA Kerosene only burns @ 800 degrees F
keep thinking

There are video's of guy's bending steel with jet fuel.....you don't need to melt it, just soften it..

 

[bearkat42]

Maybe you are not up to par on what 3,500 degrees does to steel of any kind. The buildings turned themselves into foundry`s because of the fire and winds. Redundant design does not protect the building from missiles.

"World Trade Center 7: With regard to the official account of the Twin Towers, the Commission ignored all of the problems, such as how fire could have caused steel-framed buildings to have collapsed, especially straight down, totally, and in virtual free fall, and also how ordinary building fires, even if ignited by jet fuel, could have caused steel to melt. But the most anomalous omission about the World Trade Center was the fact that the Commission did not even mention the fact that World Trade Center 7, which was not hit by a plane, also collapsed, completely destroying itself."

-The Toronto 9-11 report

 

[OddBall1st]

That is what happened in Iraq. The public were all told by the government and media that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could be deployed in just 45 minutes. And, based on that claim and the absence of any facts to the contrary (except here on the internet) many Americans decided that the war was necessary and felt that had come to that decision of their own free will. In hindsight, of course, that decision was not of their own free will but was the desired outcome of the manufactured lies about Iraq. Those that doubted the lies at the start were dismissed with the assurance that the mainstream media, serving as a watchdog on government abuse, would expose lies if they existed. Again in hindsight, the media was working hand in glove to sell those very lies to the people whose taxes and children were spent on the sands of Iraq.

The Declaration of Independence declares the principle that government derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. I DO NOT GIVE MY CONSENT TO BE LIED TO, I don't know anyone who gives their consent to be lied to. Moreover, one cannot give consent to be lied to because one cannot know what one is consenting to. No court would enforce a contract where one party does not know the terms of the contract being agreed to.

The Constitution does not authorize the government to lie to We The People. The tenth amendment bars the government from presuming that right. When the government lies, it therefore acts unconstitutionally and illegally. A government that lies to the people breaks faith with the people, violates the contract between the government and the people under which the people consent to be governed. A government that lies to the people delegitimizes itself. A government that lies to the people ceases to be the lawful government of this land. Surely the lies used to initiate a war of conquest into another nation are the worst possible lies a government can commit against its own people. And with such a lie, the United States ceases to be a nation, and becomes a land under occupation by force.

Why should you care about ..."us" ?

 

[londonfog]

Why should you care about ..."us" ?

I personally want you " gone" so I can get that drum set

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

Yup this looks bent right 911 tower pic look at the diagonal cut that surely is a natural event you think >>???? again truth can be right infront of a person but what main stream or government Says is true And no matter what that you believe it an no matter what you will stick to it being wht you think rather then take all the little evidence and piece it together
and finally come to the conclusion that you were a fool to believe it in the first place
Ask your self something there buddy why was all the metal gathered up and wisked off in such a manor by the Government as well why so many rescue people diagnosed with cancer and thousands of people on the streets that later died most importantly why was there radiation detected it is being said 911 was a nuclear event you think you would see ???? a small nuclear deep penetrating missile being dropped from a B1 bomber 60 - 70,000 feet your not going to see it missile let alone the jet

 

[OddBall1st]

LMAO fuck me here steel melts @ 2750 degrees Jet fuel AKA Kerosene only burns @ 800 degrees F
keep thinking

Place wind under the fire and you have the basic drive of a blast furnace. Foundries have been doing it for years and years. Unless you think it`s not windy on the 68th floor.
Steel melts at 27 but can be maintained in temperatures higher.

Diesel can burn at x temperature, shoot it out of a spray bottle and it will burn hotter. Put moving air under it and you get an even hotter burn.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

Explain this Radioactive fallout found by the U.S. Geological Survey in samples from 35 sites surrounding the WTC for nearly a mile. Other signs were the speed of the Towers disintegrations (8 to 10 seconds), the shock and blast waves, the pyroclastic main cloud, base-surges of street-level dust clouds, electromagnetic pulses (EMPs), upwellings of clouds from street gratings blocks away, the 2,800ºF heat under the WTC debris, and, possibly, the giveaway light-blue Cerenkov Radiation when the debris “pile” was cleared in mid-March. Add to all these signs, the molten metal in the footprints of WTC 1, 2, and 7 that for three months could not be extinguished by water or daily soil changes as it consumed concrete, steel, glass, office combustibles. The increasing incidence of radiation-only cancers from residents is another tell-tale sign of a nuclear “

 

[bearkat42]

Place wind under the fire and you have the basic drive of a blast furnace. Foundries have been doing it for years and years. Unless you think it`s not windy on the 68th floor.
Steel melts at 27 but can be maintained in temperatures higher.

Diesel can burn at x temperature, shoot it out of a spray bottle and it will burn hotter. Put moving air under it and you get an even hotter burn.

Your explanation for the difference in temperature between 800 degrees and 2750 degrees is wind?

 

[OddBall1st]

Yup this looks bent right 911 tower pic look at the diagonal cut that surely is a natural event you think >>???? again truth can be right infront of a person but what main stream or government Says is true And no matter what that you believe it an no matter what you will stick to it being wht you think rather then take all the little evidence and piece it together
and finally come to the conclusion that you were a fool to believe it in the first place
Ask your self something there buddy why was all the metal gathered up and wisked off in such a manor by the Government as well why so many rescue people diagnosed with cancer and thousands of people on the streets that later died most importantly why was there radiation detected it is being said 911 was a nuclear event you think you would see ???? a small nuclear deep penetrating missile being dropped from a B1 bomber 60 - 70,000 feet your not going to see it missile let alone the jet View attachment 3624380 View attachment 3624380

Unfortunately for your nuke theory, those temps vaporize matter,.. You will see a gravity bomb all the way if you had good glass. Gravity bombs reach terminal velocity and go no faster. Missiles shot out of planes leave smoke trail regardless of speed.
A Nuke Blast would leave a flash, and sonic boom, and a hole in the ground,...no tower, no debris, no bomb, no people,.. just a hole. The Towers are not tall enough to stop a hole in the ground from a Nuke Detonation.

 

[OddBall1st]

Every smoke detector, microwave, X-ray device in that building contains radioactive materials.

Your explanation for the difference in temperature between 800 degrees and 2750 degrees is wind?

Yes, blow on a camp fire to see exactly what I mean.

 

[bearkat42]

Every smoke detector, microwave, X-ray device in that building contains radioactive materials.



Yes, blow on a camp fire to see exactly what I mean.

So blowing on a campfire more than triples the temperature? I'll have to try that, if I ever go camping. Not saying you're wrong, but that seems like complete bullshit.