AKGrowAreo
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Cool! If you ever have the need for more pumps on one timer the hub works good.
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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KOTSMrBlack
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Hello all!
First of all, thank you to everyone for contributing to this thread. I am currently making my way through it. Other than this thread though, where does a noob start? Do I buy the book off amazon? Are there any other forums/sites I need to visit? Is this still a big deal?
I originally heard of the SB system 4 or 5 years ago and thought it looked good. Didn't have the means back then. Have the time, budget, and live in a legal state now and wanted to check in and see if this was still a viable option. Any and all info is much appreciated and in the mean time I'll be searching, reading, searching, and reading some more. Thanks!
First of all, thank you to everyone for contributing to this thread. I am currently making my way through it. Other than this thread though, where does a noob start? Do I buy the book off amazon? Are there any other forums/sites I need to visit? Is this still a big deal?
I originally heard of the SB system 4 or 5 years ago and thought it looked good. Didn't have the means back then. Have the time, budget, and live in a legal state now and wanted to check in and see if this was still a viable option. Any and all info is much appreciated and in the mean time I'll be searching, reading, searching, and reading some more. Thanks!
AKGrowAreo
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Welcome bro! You have selected a great way to grow!
Definitely buy the book as its a great starting point. The book covers most of the good stuff from this thread. I don't like the newer veg unit, so I make a hybrid version of the old veg unit and the new cloner. I recommend you do the same.
Unfortunately there was a whole bunch of drama and arguing in the middle of this thread so those pages are annoying to read and they honestly bummed me out so I would not even bother to read through that portion of the thread. With that said, the first 100 or 200 pages of this thread has some great stuff in it. I would also make sure to read the last 100 pages of this thread as well.
@StinkBud is still at it and has been posting about his grow from time to time, so definitely follow his posts. I just started a thread about my modified SB grow w/ a diy chiller, AC, and co2. I have a decent amount of info in there and the link can be found in my signature. You can also follow peeps like @letdown shifty @sky rocket @questiondj42 who are also all running modified SB grows and posting about them.
Good luck and feel free to hit me up with any Qs. Happy growing!
letdown shifty
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Just cut my 3 gals today. Holy shit! More there than I thought. Will be an interesting weigh in after the drying period. Also need to get a pair of heavy duty pruning shears to cut thru them stalks/branches, scissors just don't cut it.
-Shifty
-Shifty
AKGrowAreo
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lol. last time I had to bust out my big ass loppers to cut the 2" stocks...
GreenTools
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The pvc pipe cutter works most of the time for me
questiondj42
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The fiskars shears definitely don't stay sharp long. That pvc cutter though...The pvc pipe cutter works most of the time for me
joey green
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@questiondj42 i was wondering how long it usually takes for the sprout to show using rapid rooters, ive never used this method and im super nervious im gonna loose my purple kush beans. i was told not to start them in a napkin, jus put em in the rooter, cover the hole, and keep it most, but i read on RIU i should have soaked the bean in water first... also should my cloner be running the 1on5off cycle? doesnt this make the rooter tooo moist?
questiondj42
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You should see the sprout break the surface in the rooter within 72 hours. 5 days at the most. I use rooters with a tray inside a humidity dome. I keep the temperature and humidity inside the dome around 75*/70% humidity. Works well. Just keep a 1/4" of water inside the tray.
But, starting them in a napkin and transferring them when there's a taproot is a way to do it as well. I personally have had not had good luck with this method. It really comes down to whatever method you find successful. A plant is a plant.
The cloner should be on a timer. There needs to be exposure to air, or else the plant will rot or drown. I have had success with a 15m on / 45m off cycle, too.
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ThaMagnificent
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Any 3' tents that can fit an 8 bulb T5?
joey green
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ok thanks for the reply, i guess ill just wait and see, cross my fingers and toes hope they pop, today is day 5....
420Barista
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well seems like I would need to know the dimensions of the 8 bulb t5 and if they would fit in a 2x3 or 3x3 tent
AKGrowAreo
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8 bulb 2' t5 would fit great in a 3'x3' tent. They are about 2' x 2.25'
AKGrowAreo
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I always use a paper towel to get a 1/4" tap root then move into a rapid rooter plug that I have sliced vertically half way through from bottom to top. That makes it way easier to remove the seedling from the plug. I set my plug in a net cup and then in a Rubbermaid container with a little water just enough to keep the plug damp. Once I have got a root coming out of the bottom of the plug I gently dissect the seedling from the plug I set the seedling in a neoprene collar in a net cup and into the veg unit. 100% success rate. 100s of seeds popped.
joey green
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@AKGrowAreo hey thanks for your reply. i still have nothing coming out of the rooters, i must have done something wrong... im fucking pissed, all 5 purple kush gone..$70 down the drain...ive always done the paper towel then into soil, the one time i try something else 100% failure. FML.
do u think i can save the one that showed a tap root? i read earlier in the thread stinkbud said to run the cloner https://www.rollitup.org/t/harvest-a-pound-every-three-weeks.116859/page-523#post-10950474, so i did about 2 days ago but i think the plugs look tooo moist now...
do u think i can save the one that showed a tap root? i read earlier in the thread stinkbud said to run the cloner https://www.rollitup.org/t/harvest-a-pound-every-three-weeks.116859/page-523#post-10950474, so i did about 2 days ago but i think the plugs look tooo moist now...
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joey green
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@AKGrowAreo nevermind, i decided to check one and, turns out they all sprouted, then rotted inside the plug, probably after i turned on the sprayers. fuck!
im gonna get some beans tomorrow and try again, but follow your method. when u say rubbermaid container do u mean like my photo? do you put any dirt in the hole to cover the seed? as for water in the container, we talking like a tablespoon? i really dont wanna mess up again..
has anyone started in soil and removed the plant once it was established, wash off the roots and drop it in the veg unit?
im gonna get some beans tomorrow and try again, but follow your method. when u say rubbermaid container do u mean like my photo? do you put any dirt in the hole to cover the seed? as for water in the container, we talking like a tablespoon? i really dont wanna mess up again..
has anyone started in soil and removed the plant once it was established, wash off the roots and drop it in the veg unit?
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AKGrowAreo
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Dude, bummer to hear they got too moist. I have heard of that happening in the cloners. So yeah I use a container like you have there but mine is actually one of the really small ones that just barely fits the net cup in it. I think the larger one will work fine too, but just be sure they cant fall over. I keep the water really low, like 1/4" or less and that is enough water to keep moist but not oversoak them. Then I set them under my cloner light. I don't have any dirt around my grow at all, so I just put the seed about 1/8" under the surface of the plug so that the seedling has an easy time rising. Usually the seedling has popped out and ditched its helmet within 12 to 24 hours. Once the seedling pops up you should see the root come out of the bottom of the plug 24 to 48 hours after that. If a root still hasn't shown after 48 hours go ahead and dissect it anyway cause the root has most likely grown enough but just in the wrong direction. The only difficult part is the dissection, but that is made way easier but putting the slit half way through the plug vertically. You want to cut it enough to make it easy to dissect, but not too much that its falling apart.
joey green
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so something like this is better so it doesn't fall? do you put a lid on the container?
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joey green
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are you able to reuse the rapid rooter plug since you cut that slit in it for easy removal?
sorry for all the questions, i just don't wanna leave room for error, i only have 1 plug left...
sorry for all the questions, i just don't wanna leave room for error, i only have 1 plug left...
AKGrowAreo
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That looks perfect. I dont put a lid on it.
Also, I cant remember if I already told you that I pop the seed in a moist paper towel and set it on a dinner plate with another dinner plate sitting on top of it to keep in the moisture and keep out thew light. I set it somewhere warmish (I'd say somewhere around 65 to 80 degrees). Usually the tap root will pop out and be about 1/8" to 1/4" within 24 to 48 hrs. I just gently set the seed in the plug root side down about 1/16" to 1/8" below the surface. If the slit you made is wanting to stay open cut a piece of paper towel or tape and wrap it around there and that shoudl keep it together.
I just toss 'em after I use them because the nutes and hormones built into the plugs has been mostly used up at this point. Definitely worth th