simple question on flowering
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HolyGhost23
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yes. you need some kind of flower nute. like 10 15 15 or something. your gonna want stronger nutes if you want any kind of bud.
kitten49
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Ok I tried looking it up and seen like 123 or stuff like that would 18 18 21 be to strong? Just trying to use what I have If possible before buying more stuff
TopDogTHC
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The NPK ratio is different for veg and flower. When they are in flowering they require less nitrogen, if you look at a typical flower/bloom nutrient soloution it'll be lower in nitrogen. Typical veg ratios are 3-1-2 or 1-1-1, typical flower ratios are 1-2-3 or 1-1-2. There are lots of different variations that people claim work for them but other things come into it such as brand, nutrient quality, soil quality and nutrients already in the soil etc etc.
'Stronger nutes' is misleading, NPK ratios are confusing as it is, you could have 1-1-1 and 10-10-10, the 10-10-10 would be 'stronger' in the bottle. But when each one is mixed correctly and using the correct amount for cannabis they would both give the same NPK ratio to the plants.
Autos tend to be lighter on nutrients anyway and you could risk carrying on with what you are using if you're feeding light but for the sake of £15-£20 you could order something more suitable. It's fairly easy to find some tried and tested nutrients on here so do some research and see what's available to you. Fox farm, Advanced Nutrients, Bio Bizz to name a few.
'Stronger nutes' is misleading, NPK ratios are confusing as it is, you could have 1-1-1 and 10-10-10, the 10-10-10 would be 'stronger' in the bottle. But when each one is mixed correctly and using the correct amount for cannabis they would both give the same NPK ratio to the plants.
Autos tend to be lighter on nutrients anyway and you could risk carrying on with what you are using if you're feeding light but for the sake of £15-£20 you could order something more suitable. It's fairly easy to find some tried and tested nutrients on here so do some research and see what's available to you. Fox farm, Advanced Nutrients, Bio Bizz to name a few.
bogistJoe sr
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I've read about the vegan nutrients and "that camp" imply u need as much and more nutrients for your girls during bloom so I'd think your veg cycle food combined with 'bloom booster' , cal-mag, etc, might give more bang.
kitten49
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Ok feel a bit more confused now but I was wondering if which of the two that I have would be better to use since this is the only grow imma do for a long long time so I don't really wanna spend money on something that will sit around and possibly never be used again or if the two I have will mess it up somehow
jmcdaniel0
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Autos do not need a lot in the way of nutes. Be careful and do not be very heavy handed with them or they will end up burnt.
kitten49
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Yeah I'm Prolly lighter with them then I should be just to be on the safe side
jmcdaniel0
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Better safe than sorry lol. Been there done that.
kitten49
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Yeah lol but I still haven't got my question answered on is the nutes I have OK to use for flowering since there for veg
jmcdaniel0
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True enough. In my humble opinion, you won't find better bloom nutes than Fox Farms . Tiger bloom is not organic, big bloom is. I prefer tiger bloom, but that's just me.
http://www.amazon.com/Fox-Farm-Liquid-Concentrate-Fertilizer/dp/B00BYG6OB8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1456907057&sr=8-3&keywords=tiger+bloom+fox+farm
http://www.amazon.com/FoxFarm-FX14002-Liquid-Concentrate-0-01-0-3-0-7/dp/B0002KHDLW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456907284&sr=8-2&keywords=big+bloom+fox+farm
kitten49
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Yeah there's a place in my town that sells that stuff but I mean of what I have is that OK to use lol I'm not gonna do another grow anytime soon so don't see a reason to spend 20$ for something if what I have is OK to use it's 18 18 21 npk
jmcdaniel0
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Yea honestly with autos nutes aren't that big of a deal. Just start out slow and increase as you can. I think you will be fine.
TopDogTHC
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I'd expect the 18-18-21 to be better suited because of the higher pottasisum content.
How far in are they? And how long have they been flowering?
kitten49
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About a week or two I think I'd post a pic but my phone won't let me there doing pretty good though I'm just starting to notice the crystals on a few
TopDogTHC
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If they look healthy then just keep on how you are for this grow.
But next time get what you need before starting. Different strains will respond different to nutrients and different growing conditions such as heat can effect nutrient intake. Toxicities and deficiencies will reduce yield, especially in autos. The 20-50 you could spend on nutrients could save you more than what they cost in bud or even save your whole grow.
kitten49
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Yeah I just did this grow to try out out and see how it went but if I do it again I'm not going with autos because one is only like six inches high and just got her first set of five leafs while the other is around 13/14" high and I'm starting to get the seven fan leafs both same strain I'll definitely put more money into getting good stuff next time
TopDogTHC
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That can happen with photos as well, there are different phenotypes (variations) of each strain. Could have 3 seeds of the same strain showing different characteristics, some tall, some small! That's why people with larger grows tend to clone. Even still, growing a photo from seed gives you as much veg time as you need to train plants to even the canopy if you do have different strains or phenotypes.
kitten49
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Yeah I figured if I get a normal I can just let her take her time and grow nice before going into flowering I don't think my littlest one is gonna have anything more then like a dime amount if even that she's so small and growing so slow but she was also a small seed and the other was bigger I think that has to do with it to