Hermie seeds will not always grow that way!

ryan1918

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I don't know why I see countless threads that say junk them seeds they were from a hermied plant they will grow no bud or nothing but seeded but, well I've grown them and never ran into that problem and I currently have 4 going and no seeds and no males, they were all females, I believe your environment is more of a factor then the actual seed itself, because the seed would be a replica of the mother not the seeded plant..

Not saying every seed will turn out and not every seed will turn into a female but I'm saying the times I've tried I had just as good as feminized seeds.

Don't throw them out, but if you only have a small amount of space or small amount you can do, and you don't want to take any risks then buy feminized seeds.

Good luck and happy growing people, I'm also curious what everyone else had for results too
 

a senile fungus

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Seeds that i've grown from plants that expressed the intersex trait don't necessarily express that trait themselves. That being said, they will show intersex if conditions warrant it.

GG4 is a good example of such a cross, a three way fuck fest. The gg4 will not show those intersex traits unless prompted to.do.so, weird nutes, light leaks, too much wind up her skirt, etc. All grower dependent variables...

I hope you've enjoyed my anecdotal experience !
 

$bkbbudz$

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I don't know why I see countless threads that say junk them seeds they were from a hermied plant they will grow no bud or nothing but seeded but, well I've grown them and never ran into that problem and I currently have 4 going and no seeds and no males, they were all females, I believe your environment is more of a factor then the actual seed itself, because the seed would be a replica of the mother not the seeded plant..

Not saying every seed will turn out and not every seed will turn into a female but I'm saying the times I've tried I had just as good as feminized seeds.

Don't throw them out, but if you only have a small amount of space or small amount you can do, and you don't want to take any risks then buy feminized seeds.

Good luck and happy growing people, I'm also curious what everyone else had for results too
I agree I have seen plants produce seeds from a single bud if the plant has been stressed enough...this happens. But the seeds from that bud have a pretty good chance of being female.

Personally, I buy feminized seeds...never grew a seeded plant in my life.
 

Lash666

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I've grown from a few of hermie plants,and they turned out fine,the bud in my profile pic was from a hermie plant.
 

bignugdoug

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I was curious on this as well. I had about 15 female plants one turned hermie so room got pollinated but everyseed i have grown from those pollinated plants i have a %100 sucess rate with those seeds being female. Probably planted around 100 in the.last two years.
 

Screaming trees

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I don't know why I see countless threads that say junk them seeds they were from a hermied plant they will grow no bud or nothing but seeded but, well I've grown them and never ran into that problem and I currently have 4 going and no seeds and no males, they were all females, I believe your environment is more of a factor then the actual seed itself, because the seed would be a replica of the mother not the seeded plant..

Not saying every seed will turn out and not every seed will turn into a female but I'm saying the times I've tried I had just as good as feminized seeds.

Don't throw them out, but if you only have a small amount of space or small amount you can do, and you don't want to take any risks then buy feminized seeds.

Good luck and happy growing people, I'm also curious what everyone else had for results too
Subbed! I've been so weary of growing some seeds from a plant that hermied and got one of my Mendocino purps two years ago and I've kept the seeds just in case I got up the nerve to grow them again and I never grabbed clones. Worst mistake I ever made. I didn't think it was gonna be that good. Boy was I wrong. I might just give them a try cause that was some of the tastiest bud I'd ever had.
 

kmog33

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I was curious on this as well. I had about 15 female plants one turned hermie so room got pollinated but everyseed i have grown from those pollinated plants i have a %100 sucess rate with those seeds being female. Probably planted around 100 in the.last two years.
When plants herm all of the seeds will be female. There were never any males with the chromosome to make the seeds male. They will carry the hermie trait. Though. Not all will, but a better chance than a stable seed. All it takes is one herm with more seeds than nug to convince you that growing those hermie seeds out aren't worth it. Ime if you find 1-4 seeds in a plant, those seeds probably won't herm. But if you have lots of seeds, most likely the beans will herm too. They'll all be female though lol.


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Screaming trees

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If that plant that hermied and got my Mendocino to pop seeds, would my chances be great for them to hermie too?
It didn't get covered in seeds but it was pretty sparse but it was around 30 or so seeds that came off her. I just don't won't to ruin a crop. Ooooooooor could I plant a seed and then pull a clone off her and see what the clone does? I mean I know that sounds like a stupid question but I've noticed some clones will grow different then the bean. I'm pretty sure the traits will carry over but I was curious to someone's thoughts.
 

kmog33

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If that plant that hermied and got my Mendocino to pop seeds, would my chances be great for them to hermie too?
It didn't get covered in seeds but it was pretty sparse but it was around 30 or so seeds that came off her. I just don't won't to ruin a crop. Ooooooooor could I plant a seed and then pull a clone off her and see what the clone does? I mean I know that sounds like a stupid question but I've noticed some clones will grow different then the bean. I'm pretty sure the traits will carry over but I was curious to someone's thoughts.
If your clones are growing different from the mom it means you are having visible genetic degradation in one generation of cloning. Which is really not good lol. But you definitely can take a cut off flower it and see what it does and if it doesn't herm, you have a good chance the mom won't either. 30 seeds is kind of a lot. Sounds like at least some of it was fully pollinated by herm sperm. I would test any of them I grew out before I stuck them around other strains I'm growing.


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Screaming trees

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If your clones are growing different from the mom it means you are having visible genetic degradation in one generation of cloning. Which is really not good lol. But you definitely can take a cut off flower it and see what it does and if it doesn't herm, you have a good chance the mom won't either. 30 seeds is kind of a lot. Sounds like at least some of it was fully pollinated by herm sperm. I would test any of them I grew out before I stuck them around other strains I'm growing.


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Thanks for the input. Yea I'm not even gonna risk it then. I guess I just need to get some feminized Mendo seeds and feel less stressed. But I did get some Ak48 and Papaya seeds and the first clones I took didn't even come close to the beans in bud structure and yield. Shocked the shit out of me because they done awesome from seed. All the other clones performed exactly like the mum. I might veg them a little longer and see if that was the problem.
 

kmog33

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Thanks for the input. Yea I'm not even gonna risk it then. I guess I just need to get some feminized Mendo seeds and feel less stressed. But I did get some Ak48 and Papaya seeds and the first clones I took didn't even come close to the beans in bud structure and yield. Shocked the shit out of me because they done awesome from seed. All the other clones performed exactly like the mum. I might veg them a little longer and see if that was the problem.
Cloning autos isn't really a functional thing lol. And ak48 is an auto yeah? If. You have clones that turn out different from mom. I wouldn't grow them out unless you have extra space. It's really beneficial to have genetics you know grow well and are somewhat stable in your grow space. It really sucks to have an entire crop or most of one messed up because of wonky plants. I had a buddy send me out a cross he did that just wasn't compatible. All the seeds popped fast, 11/12 were girls. Looked great through veg and first two weeks of flower, then they all damped off and died. For no reason at all. Had a couple of my Tahoe in the same Rez that finished awesome without any problems. And my Tahoe cut is insanely finicky. Just bad genetics and lost 11 plants in a 3x5 a month and a half into the grow. That was a shitty loss.


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bignugdoug

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Well in my case out of the 18 plants only one hermed. Yeah the rest of my crop had seeds just nowhere near as bad as the herm. And i. tested around 30 seeds outdoors, had wonderful success no herms no problems. Averaged about 7 zips per plant out doors. So i decided to grow some indoor and been growing them for almost 2 years now and not one herm this whole time. So anyone think i could have made femenized seeds from my mishap?
 

Screaming trees

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Cloning autos isn't really a functional thing lol. And ak48 is an auto yeah? If. You have clones that turn out different from mom. I wouldn't grow them out unless you have extra space. It's really beneficial to have genetics you know grow well and are somewhat stable in your grow space. It really sucks to have an entire crop or most of one messed up because of wonky plants. I had a buddy send me out a cross he did that just wasn't compatible. All the seeds popped fast, 11/12 were girls. Looked great through veg and first two weeks of flower, then they all damped off and died. For no reason at all. Had a couple of my Tahoe in the same Rez that finished awesome without any problems. And my Tahoe cut is insanely finicky. Just bad genetics and lost 11 plants in a 3x5 a month and a half into the grow. That was a shitty loss.


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The AK48 I have isn't an auto. I guess I'm just real picky and pay very close attention to my girls. Where I was getting close to 3 onions a girl off the AK's the first round I only got close to 2 the second round through clone. And they didn't fill in and branch like the bean. Maybe it was my veg time or I was a little off somewhere on the nutes or PH, I couldn't tell ya but I know something was off. The thing that confused me is all the other clones done perfect off the mums. I guess there's gonna have to be a round 3 to see.
That sucks on your loss man. I've been wanting to do some crossing myself. Any recommendations on the do's and don't's ?
 

kmog33

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The AK48 I have isn't an auto. I guess I'm just real picky and pay very close attention to my girls. Where I was getting close to 3 onions a girl off the AK's the first round I only got close to 2 the second round through clone. And they didn't fill in and branch like the bean. Maybe it was my veg time or I was a little off somewhere on the nutes or PH, I couldn't tell ya but I know something was off. The thing that confused me is all the other clones done perfect off the mums. I guess there's gonna have to be a round 3 to see.
That sucks on your loss man. I've been wanting to do some crossing myself. Any recommendations on the do's and don't's ?
Oh it was a long time ago and during outdoor season so it wasn't a huge deal. Just a big waste of space and time. Some strains have better breeding compatibility than others. The issue is you don't know until you try to pop the seeds lol.

On breeding. Picks growth trait you like in your males and be very picky about them. While you won't know how they contribute to the flowers until you grow out the seeds the only traits you can really look for are growth/vigor and smell. I like to grow out 10 males to find 1. DJ short does like 150 or some rediculous number. But his stabilized strains are legit. Don't keep/breed anything that has any problems you don't want to pass on.(except further down the line of you continue breeding and find an unstable strain you are trying to breed the instabilities out of, which is insanely time consuming and difficult. I wouldn't worry about it for now) stick to strong plants and fire flowers.


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Jimmy Sparkle

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I've got a shiatsu Kush growing from seed that I found in a bud that was given to me. 30 plants grown, no males, out of the entire crop 3 seeds were found I've got 2. This plant has near a 100% chance being a non hermaphroditic female. She will become a mother specimen for future generations of bad ass smoke. Even if she became a hermaphrodite it's cool because I love a freaky chick and more seeds!!!!
 

breakdancer0003

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Good luck and happy growing people, I'm also curious what everyone else had for results too
Never had any issues growing from seeds I found in good bags. Since I usually only find 1 or 2 of them per ounce i assume they were from a hermie mishap and I would say 80% end up being female. Ryan are you in Michigan ? if so lets go disc and smoke some time i have given you enough crap about Mt Dew, and I want to try some out haha :bigjoint: I have things to share too bongsmilie
 
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