Mau5Capades: builds & grow journal

Queece

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Seems counter-intuitive, as you automatically associate warm, wet areas with mildew . The only problem with those conditions is that they are usually cyclical with dry, cool periods. It isn't the fall that kills you, it's the stop.
 

SaltyNuts

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High temps also invite pests. Too much heat above 85 degrees, plants start yielding less and buds become more airy. High RH equals bud rott

75 -80 with 30% -50% RH is what you want for better yields. For better trichome production - 70-75 degrees.
true in my book, but then the Sierra Foothills guys have thriving 12lb outdoor plants growing in 110F+ ambient, dry as a bone air. I just dunno.
 

Queece

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Depends on the quality though. You really don't know til you smoke it. I do no till/ probiotic / knf. My buddy runs synthetics. He gets double and triple the yields I get. But the quality and flavor of mine blows his away I even tried a couple plants with synthetics to compare and I hated smoking them. They were no where as flavorful Medi is running synthetics. It's not that hard to get big yields with synthetics.
Dude, this isn't my grow, but it's what I'm talking about. Nothing you grow is this dank, and that isn't meant to be personal.
 

Queece

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Near the end of the video, around the 30 minute mark, Medi will fill you in better than I can about VPD.
 

hyroot

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Dude, this isn't my grow, but it's what I'm talking about. Nothing you grow is this dank, and that isn't meant to be personal.

You don't know how dank it is til you smoke it. Looks don't mean shit. I actually grow some of the best.. all the dispensaries I drop to pay me more than the other vendors. I grow some of the best fire you have ever seen. I already follow medi. I can tell you mine are better than his just based on what he uses for soil and nutrients. Nothing compares to high brix natural organics. I know several growers who grow the same style I do. Theirs are the same quality and sometimes better than mine. It's not an ego thing. It's reality. Medi has money for giant gardrns. He originally had people investing in his garden back in the day. The quality of his isn't that great. You can see his flowers at cups sometimes
 

hyroot

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true in my book, but then the Sierra Foothills guys have thriving 12lb outdoor plants growing in 110F+ ambient, dry as a bone air. I just dunno.

Certain genetics do better in other areas than others. That's all I can say. When it's bone dry. Mites and we Hite flies are heavily around everywhere. I live in the same environment. 120 plus during the summer with no humidity. I live in the desert. My outdoors do horrible. My current outdoor is doing way better than my summer outdoor.
 

SaltyNuts

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Well, shit, the only way to know how something will work is to try it, and try again. My intuition and experiance says "fuck no" to hot and humid, but I am curious. I'm not going to just switch over to that method, but it seems worth an experiment.
 

Stephenj37826

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In my opinion (take it as just that) the best way to grow indoors is a combination of a clean synthetic base system with organic inputs. As long as you keep your beneficials going and good organic inputs and not quite as much on the salts I've seen no drastic reduction in quantity but a pretty noticeable jump in quality. It is definitely fun to experiment and that's the real thrill of this hobby to me.
 

Queece

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Hyroot saaaaaaaaalty. Dude, please, I went to school for this shit. None of my professors endorse organic nutrients, nor would any chemist that understands mobile elements in a plant. It's anti-science greenwashing bullshit. Sorry man, you're wrong, and Medicropper grows way danker nugs than you do. I don't care if you've been doing this for X amount of years, I can live in a scrapyard my whole life without assembling a honda civic from scratch.

All you guys have to do is listen to people that know what they're talking about. Take the bananas out of your ears and you might be successful in this industry.

Well, shit, the only way to know how something will work is to try it, and try again. My intuition and experiance says "fuck no" to hot and humid, but I am curious. I'm not going to just switch over to that method, but it seems worth an experiment.
NO NO NO, no experiment. All or nothing, is what I'm trying to say. If you try it for a day, you're going to get mold when your temperatures drop back down.
 

Queece

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In my opinion (take it as just that) the best way to grow indoors is a combination of a clean synthetic base system with organic inputs. As long as you keep your beneficials going and good organic inputs and not quite as much on the salts I've seen no drastic reduction in quantity but a pretty noticeable jump in quality. It is definitely fun to experiment and that's the real thrill of this hobby to me.
You are absolutely correct.
 

SaltyNuts

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Certain genetics do better in other areas than others. That's all I can say. When it's bone dry. Mites and we Hite flies are heavily around everywhere. I live in the same environment. 120 plus during the summer with no humidity. I live in the desert. My outdoors do horrible. My current outdoor is doing way better than my summer outdoor.
The weather has been freakin' awesome. You don't get severe cold snaps in the desert this time of year?
 

Queece

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I use pure synthetic salt nutrients, coco, inoculate that with mycos, use molasses at very low concentrations once every 1.5 weeks, maybe some humic/fulvic, very light silicate, and two feedings of liquid kelp. Just let Jesus do the rest. I don't think you can beat that regimen, in terms of what a plant requires. I don't care if the EPA puts a sticker that says "good boy" on it.
 

Fastslappy

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I run a summer g/h grow & yes near 100% is not hard & yes mold doesn't grow unless the temp drops
but I still get brown rot that is bacterial Not a fungi & it kills so fast you can actually see it spread down a stem
then there's algae that grows anywhere the light hits in high humidity
(even on dust on the walls will support life in 100% R/H )
it's like growing in a petri dish Yes can be done Not Easy At All
I have to keep all buds swaving the breeze 100% of the time day/nite
any dead air rot sets in
got my process down & now it's lower R/H but hot dry nites / cool breezey humid days
no rot no fungi pests keep at bay with Lady bugs & lace wings , spiders clean up the LB's
so a weekly influx of new LB's keeps order in the house not even a cattapiller this last summer
 

UncleBuck

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All you guys have to do is listen to people that know what they're talking about. Take the bananas out of your ears and you might be successful in this industry.
i wonder why none of the dispensaries here in denver run 99% Rh and 90 degree temps?

they must not be smart, like you are.
 

SaltyNuts

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NO NO NO, no experiment. All or nothing, is what I'm trying to say. If you try it for a day, you're going to get mold when your temperatures drop back down.
Yes all or nothing. "Experiment" as in do the method in it's own controlled area. "Just a little" hot and humid would be catastrophic.

As for "Nutes", what's there to say that hasn't already been said. But I'll weigh in... General Hydroponics powdered salts work just fine, are very well balanced, and can produce a very clean and tasty finish. I think a light hand is important. A lot of people bash on chemical fertilizers because people often use too much, they are very concentrated and ready for action. You can also get just as good yield with "organics" versus chemical fertilizers. But you can easily fry your plants with too much rock phosphate, chicken shit and kelp, too. A lot of the "organic" nutrient solution blends sold are quite dilute. My laymen's opinion is that the main unique beneficial elements in biologically-derived nutrient solutions are the enzymes and humates.
 
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