Going Vertical - 4x4 Tent

kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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Hey do you think I made a mistake supercropping them all down. I was thinking should I not just let them get big, because when I flower I'm just going to basically scrog it horizontally by across a very wall if that makes sense.

It's not to late to straighten them up as they haven't harden up yet. I would have still acquired great new growth out of the supercrop.

Or just leave as is so they bush out low?

Any opinions.
 
lawlrus

lawlrus

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You need to know what the genetics you have are going to do come stretch time to make a good call on that IME. But generally speaking the stretchier the better. I usually top or FIM one time somewhere between 2-4 nodes for a strain that I can plan for at least 2x stretch on and then proceed to pinch and bend as necessary to keep them in line (in addition to tying and other forms of LST). A combination of techniques seems to work best for me.

I'm on my phone so kinda tough to see pics and can't navigate very well for some reason, what strain is this you're running again?
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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lawlrus said:
You need to know what the genetics you have are going to do come stretch time to make a good call on that IME. But generally speaking the stretchier the better. I usually top or FIM one time somewhere between 2-4 nodes for a strain that I can plan for at least 2x stretch on and then proceed to pinch and bend as necessary to keep them in line (in addition to tying and other forms of LST). A combination of techniques seems to work best for me.

I'm on my phone so kinda tough to see pics and can't navigate very well for some reason, what strain is this you're running again?
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Cheers bro. I'm running white widow x big bud and super skunk. It's about the 4th run with them, so I know them a bit. Stretch isn't too bad.
 
DST

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35litre looks a lot for those size plants. I am only using 20litre pots and my plants are getting to 6 foot in the vertical and yield around 8-10oz. I would really advise you to start training them into a net prior to flipping them. Like lawlrus said, the strechier the better to benefit from the vertical set up. Good luck.
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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DST said:
35litre looks a lot for those size plants. I am only using 20litre pots and my plants are getting to 6 foot in the vertical and yield around 8-10oz. I would really advise you to start training them into a net prior to flipping them. Like lawlrus said, the strechier the better to benefit from the vertical set up. Good luck.
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Cheers bro, I've been thinking the same a little. But I'm pretty good at scrogging so I'm looking forward to this challenge.
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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DST said:
35litre looks a lot for those size plants. I am only using 20litre pots and my plants are getting to 6 foot in the vertical and yield around 8-10oz. I would really advise you to start training them into a net prior to flipping them. Like lawlrus said, the strechier the better to benefit from the vertical set up. Good luck.
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Hey there just one more question. Are you getting those yields per plant or per grow. I'd hope that's per plant, otherwise I'd just go back to horizontal grows, I've pulled over a lb off one plant. But never in any less than 30l of soil
 
lawlrus

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I would agree that 9gal seems like a big pot for the size of those plants especially if you're only giving them a couple of days before flipping, but you know your situation best.
 
DST

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kiwipaulie said:
Hey there just one more question. Are you getting those yields per plant or per grow. I'd hope that's per plant, otherwise I'd just go back to horizontal grows, I've pulled over a lb off one plant. But never in any less than 30l of soil
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Per plant. normally 4 or 5 in a 1.2m squared cab with 2 600s. Looking at those plants I still think they don't look like they need potting up anytime soon, but that's just my opinion of course.
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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DST said:
Per plant. normally 4 or 5 in a 1.2m squared cab with 2 600s. Looking at those plants I still think they don't look like they need potting up anytime soon, but that's just my opinion of course.
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I guess when I take a look at the roots ill figure it out.

The photos are quite deceptive, as the plants are about 1m tall now
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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Back to the drawing board. I wont be able to fit 5 35l pots anyway. Might try some bigger planter bags and just run 4 plants next time.

Whilst those plants don't look big, the roots are coming out the holes at the bottom, so I'm figuring a bigger pot will be better either way
 
lawlrus

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I'm sure you could benefit from an up-pot and the roots will keep growing during the stretch at least. I just don't think there would be as much of a benefit to jumping to a 9 gal pot from, say, a 2 or 3 gal pot unless you were going for another few weeks of veg first. Maybe if you were looking to be able to increase the amount of time between waterings that could be helpful. Sorry if I missed it but what size are the pots currently?
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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lawlrus said:
I'm sure you could benefit from an up-pot and the roots will keep growing during the stretch at least. I just don't think there would be as much of a benefit to jumping to a 9 gal pot from, say, a 2 or 3 gal pot unless you were going for another few weeks of veg first. Maybe if you were looking to be able to increase the amount of time between waterings that could be helpful. Sorry if I missed it but what size are the pots currently?
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Hey bro. There already in 5 gal pots.
 
lawlrus

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Gotcha. I usually go 4" pot > 1gal > 3gal but I'm in coco, and soil is a different ball game...usually 5 or 6gal of soil is similar to 3gal of coco. I also use fabric pots so I don't have much of an issue with rootbound plants anymore (they still get rootbound but not to the same level of overall detriment to the plant as they would in a hard-walled container). Just looking at the photo you posted I think you're probably fine in terms of letting it finish in that container, but maybe consider a transplant to 7gal since you're not vegging much longer and you can get a 7gal that is the same diameter as the 5gal so it should still fit, just be a bit taller. That might also help get you the height you want to utilize that vertical light the best way possible if the plants aren't stretchy enough on their own. I don't have much personal experience with any of the strains you're running so I can't say for sure based on firsthand knowledge. Just a thought.
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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lawlrus said:
Gotcha. I usually go 4" pot > 1gal > 3gal but I'm in coco, and soil is a different ball game...usually 5 or 6gal of soil is similar to 3gal of coco. I also use fabric pots so I don't have much of an issue with rootbound plants anymore (they still get rootbound but not to the same level of overall detriment to the plant as they would in a hard-walled container). Just looking at the photo you posted I think you're probably fine in terms of letting it finish in that container, but maybe consider a transplant to 7gal since you're not vegging much longer and you can get a 7gal that is the same diameter as the 5gal so it should still fit, just be a bit taller. That might also help get you the height you want to utilize that vertical light the best way possible if the plants aren't stretchy enough on their own. I don't have much personal experience with any of the strains you're running so I can't say for sure based on firsthand knowledge. Just a thought.
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cheers. I guess the other way I'm looking at it is that if I pot up, then I wont really need to feed it anything more as it will have plenty of goodies in the new soil.

I've got bags of really good quality organic soil.
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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My girls in horizontal seem to be taking longer then normal so I'm giving the girls some more supercropping, just lightly.

After the last time I taped them up to see if they healed faster. I believe they did.

I taped them rangi like if as I had 60mm shells coming down. I had a date in town so no time to lose lol
 

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