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MrStickyScissors

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The Articles of Confederation invested the greatest power in the individual states and left the national government weak and powerless. (Points : 1) True
False
 

MrStickyScissors

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What United States document establishes the core principles on which our government is based? (Points : 1) Constitution
Articles of Confederation
Bill of Rights
Magna Carta
 

MrStickyScissors

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State delegates to the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were charged only with revising the Articles of Confederation, not with drafting a new Constitution. (Points : 1) True
False
 

Padawanbater2

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I don't get it. Why would somebody vote for a poor, life long loser like Bernie? Is that the path you really want America to go down? Let's all follow a leader with no skill and no talent? At some point, we are all going to have to vet the guy. You know?
1. Sanders has a net worth of $700K - hardly "poor"
2. Personal net worth isn't a reliable indicator of a presidential term. For example, Lincoln was one of the poorest presidents to hold office but regularly tops the list of most successful presidents in American history. Likewise, W. Bush, Nixon, Harding, Buchannan, Polk, Taft & others were all wealthy men with much higher personal net worths who had largely forgettable (aside from W.s catastrophe) terms as president

People support Sanders because his policy positions help the poor and middle-class at a time when the only section of American society that has economically prospered as a whole for the past 40 years is the upper-class
 

londonfog

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42k is starting pay. I'm nowhere near management. I'm a 25 year old retard. By the time I wrap a few things, in a few years I'll easily be making twice that. Unless Bernie is president, then who knows what? I'm not going to hate on you for having a wife, I just hope she knows you have some serious mental problems. Just because you don't talk to the ladies, that doesn't mean I don't. Go ahead and keep hatin' (because hatin is what you do) I'll talk to as many women as I want, whether it's some chic at the supermarket, or a friend on facebook. Doesn't matter. I'm not ready to settle down yet.
Just don't go blaming me for your shit getting deleted or Yessica being banned. I'm grown enough to handle the internet without running to the mod reporting people. Not my style. I rather talk shit to you and see how far I can go until rolli puts me in slowdown, For the record I get my shit deleted too, but this the internet so I really don't give a fuck.
 

2ANONYMOUS

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Panda does it really matter either way Hillary is killing bernie and trump will trump them all he is unstoppable lets see how he does in Nevada and Face it Hillary and trump is what all the talk is all about Even Cruz there is talk about as for Bernie who is he he is out in left field stumbling he is the next one to drop out one more loss for him and no need to worry what he will do but throw in the towel lol seriously just like Jeb Bush Bernie is next to actually drop out wait n see
 

Not GOP

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1. Sanders has a net worth of $700K - hardly "poor"
2. Personal net worth isn't a reliable indicator of a presidential term. For example, Lincoln was one of the poorest presidents to hold office but regularly tops the list of most successful presidents in American history. Likewise, W. Bush, Nixon, Harding, Buchannan, Polk, Taft & others were all wealthy men with much higher personal net worths who had largely forgettable (aside from W.s catastrophe) terms as president

People support Sanders because his policy positions help the poor and middle-class at a time when the only section of American society that has economically prospered as a whole for the past 40 years is the upper-class
700k is peanuts, and he aquired all of it through power of office. He has never created a single service or product that anybody has ever wanted, or needed. Everything he has accomplished has been through power of government. So of course he wants more of it. You would think Bernie, a man who's family came to America to escape Socialism, would be more appreciative of what America has to offer.
 

Padawanbater2

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700k is peanuts, and he aquired all of it through power of office. He has never created a single service or product that anybody has ever wanted, or needed. Everything he has accomplished has been through power of government. So of course he wants more of it. You would think Bernie, a man who's family came to America to escape Socialism, would be more appreciative of what America has to offer.
It's obvious you're trying to use arguments that correlate with your support for Trump, but like I told you before, the things you think are important for a president to have to have a successful administration aren't a good indicator of how successful the administration will be. Address my point about Lincoln; best president in American history, also one of the poorest. According to your reasoning, Lincoln should have been a shit president because he was poor as dirt, so what gives? W. had tens of millions of dollars before he became president and his administration is near the bottom of the list in terms of success, again, what gives?

Trump has filed for bankruptcy multiple times, Sanders never has. Trump was gifted $300 million by his father, Sanders' dad didn't give him $300 million. Was Trump ever involved in any civil rights movements or peace marches or sit-ins? Because Sanders was.
 

Not GOP

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It's obvious you're trying to use arguments that correlate with your support for Trump,
That's not what I'm doing. And Bush aquired his wealth through family. The Bush dynasty is big in Texas. Don't they own a baseball team? I'm not impressed with G.W's background either, and I'm not making the point that Trump is the only answer, but instead, we have been seeing what inexperienced presidents bring to the table. Even today, with Obama the community organizer. Lincoln was a different time with different problems.

Right now we desperately need a president who knows what makes the economy move from experience. Both the successful side, and unsuccessful. Whether it's learning from a multi-billionaire with a few failed projects, or not. We need an experienced president who has learned from both good decisions, and bad
 
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2ANONYMOUS

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If you think bernie even has a chance your dead wrong if Nevada was any indication of what soon to be Bernies demise iowa he lost if i am not mistaken newhampsire is only place he won haha but lets look closer and what is a no brainer even for bernie he knows he lost

Sanders has yet to demonstrate strength in a state whose electorate isn’t more than 90 percent white. Nevada and South Carolina, the next contests, don’t look anything like Iowa or New Hampshire. Only 65 percent of voters were white in the 2008 Democratic caucus in Nevada, and only 43 percent were in South Carolina.

Polling has indicated that Sanders trails among nonwhite voters by nearly40 percentage points nationally. Although no reliable recent polling is available in Nevada, Clinton leads by 30 percentage points in both of ourSouth Carolina forecasts. In the latest Marist College poll, she’s buoyed by a 74 percent to 17 percent lead among black voters. Sanders must cut into that margin if he wants to have any chance in South Carolina or anywhere in the South.

You could already see how Sanders might have problems in Nevada and South Carolina even as he was crushing Clinton in New Hampshire. Despite winning the state by more than 20 percentage points, the best Sanders could manage among registered Democrats was a tie. His large margin came from registered independents who voted in the Democratic primary. You must be a registered Democrat to vote in the Nevada caucuses, though you can register as one the day of the election. In 2008, 81 percent of Nevada caucus-goers self-identified as Democrats. Just 58 percent of New Hampshire voters on Tuesday thought of themselves as Democrats.

Most worrisome for Sanders is his 25-percentage-point loss among New Hampshire Democrats who want to continue President Obama’s policies. Obama’s current job approval rating among blacks nationally is about 90 percent. Sanders will have big problems in South Carolina if he doesn’t do better among voters who like Obama.

So the terrain ahead is friendlier for Clinton; here’s the FiveThirtyEight weighted polling average in upcoming contests (keep in mind, these averages don’t factor in any post-New Hampshire bump that Sanders might get):

DATE STATE CLINTON SANDERS
2/20 Nevada 50.3 28.1
2/27 South Carolina 60.5 29.3
3/8 Michigan 59.9 29.0
3/15 Florida 61.0 26.0
3/15 North Carolina 55.9 28.3
3/15 Ohio 52.8 38.6
4/5 Wisconsin 45.6 43.4
4/26 Pennsylvania 51.4 28.0
6/7 California 46.3 32.9
FiveThirtyEight polling averages as of Feb. 9
The bottom line is that Sanders did very well in New Hampshire, and we can see the outlines of a campaign that can be competitive in the rest of the country. But there is plenty of work for him to do as we move away from the very white states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

So polls are showing him behind in every on oh boy oh boy your not going to win a presidency from voters locally now are you and looking at stats appears he is behind in all other states but hey lets wait n see the next one ok
 
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Padawanbater2

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That's not what I'm doing. And Bush aquired his wealth through family. The Bush dynasty is big in Texas. Don't they own a baseball team? I'm not impressed with G.W's background either, and I'm not making the point that Trump is the only answer, but instead we have been seeing what inexperienced presidents bring to the table. Even today, with Obama the community organizer. Lincoln was a different time with different problems.

Right now we desperately need a president who knows what makes the economy move from experience. Both the successful side, and unsuccessful. Whether it's learning from a multi-billionaire with a few failed projects, or not. We need an experienced president who has learned from both good decisions, and bad
How many economists have endorsed Trump (or any other GOP candidates)?

170 Economists have endorsed Sanders' plan
 

2ANONYMOUS

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Truth is Trump is “like a rolling bowling ball knocking Ted Cruz and everyone else to the side,” one strategist said. Another put it more starkly: “The only question that the GOP faces is pretty simple: Whom will Donald Trump choose for vice president?”
 

Not GOP

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How many economists have endorsed Trump (or any other GOP candidates)?

170 Economists have endorsed Sanders' plan
Many of those economists are the same people who support Obama's failed economic policies. You don't seriously believe the real unemployment number is below 5%, do you? If so, this entire conversation is pointless.

I believe Bernie has a good heart, with noble intensions. It's part of his appeal, but thats also where it ends. Rhetoric will only get a candidate so far
 

Padawanbater2

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Many of those economists are the same people who support Obama's failed economic policies. You don't seriously believe the real unemployment number is below 5%, do you? If so, this entire conversation is pointless.

I believe Bernie has a good heart, with noble intensions. It's part of his appeal, but thats also where it ends. Rhetoric will only get a candidate so far
Nobel Laureates in economics are on that list

Have any Nobel Laureates in economics endorsed Trump's plan?


You seem to think Trump's plan (the same as all other GOP candidates before him - reduce taxes on the rich and cut social welfare programs) will work based on.. what exactly? His word? Who in the field of economics supports his, or any other GOP candidates, economic plan? If nobody does, then why would you believe that it would be successful? What do you base that on?
 

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Nobel Laureates in economics are on that list

Have any Nobel Laureates in economics endorsed Trump's plan?


You seem to think Trump's plan (the same as all other GOP candidates before him - reduce taxes on the rich and cut social welfare programs) will work based on.. what exactly? His word? Who in the field of economics supports his, or any other GOP candidates, economic plan? If nobody does, then why would you believe that it would be successful? What do you base that on?
Nobel prizes are selected by a small committee of socialist Norwegians. There is nothing special about that. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize for sneezing. He did absolutely nothing to deserve it.

There are several other elements in play, yet you only seem to consider two issues in regards to the success of Trump's economic plan. Taxes on the rich, and social welfare programs. First of all, Trump is raising taxes on a lot of rich people, including hedge fund operators. Second, which social welfare plans are you worried about Trump cutting? And please don't tell me it's because he supports planned parenthood, but opposes partial birth abortions.
 
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shorelineOG

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Trump is the only one talking about the trade imbalance. Putting tariffs on imports will bring back jobs and industry. He is a builder and understands management, construction, negotiation and he is the smartest guy around. He has good instincts and I trust his judgment.
 

UncleBuck

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Trump is the only one talking about the trade imbalance. Putting tariffs on imports will bring back jobs and industry. He is a builder and understands management, construction, negotiation and he is the smartest guy around. He has good instincts and I trust his judgment.
i will note that you are stupid.

tariffs are simply a tax on you, by the way. just so you know. because you are stupid.
 

Padawanbater2

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Nobel prizes are selected by a small committee of socialist Norwegians. There is nothing special about that.
That's ignorant
There are several other elements in play, yet you only seem to consider two issues in regards to the success of Trump's economic plan. Taxes on the rich, and social welfare programs. First of all, Trump is raising taxes on a lot of rich people, including hedge fund operators. Second, which social welfare plans are you worried about Trump cutting? And please don't tell me it's because he supports planned parenthood, but opposes partial birth abortions.
Where did you get the idea that his plan raises taxes?

Current tax brackets:



Trump's plan:




As you can see, his plan decreases the tax brackets across the board. If he plans to decrease the revenue brought in through income taxes, how does he plan to pay for the commitments the federal budget requires? How does he plan to pay for any of the things he's proposing on the campaign trail? Put politics aside for a second and consider the math, these are the numbers:



Income tax brings in nearly half of the federal revenue, so if he plans to reduce the top marginal tax rate by nearly half, and significantly reduce it for everyone else (including corporations), how will we pay for anything?
 
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