green217
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Good. Just shit for yield
Why did I get such disappointing yields on 2 of my plants?
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green217
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Looks like you got a tree on your hands there, you probably will not encounter the same problems I did. I'm sure it's some kind of issue a call. I'm thinking more than likely sitting in the dark in the bedroom for about 3 days or 36 hours then immediately putting them into the flower room stunted them somehow maybe? I do have another OG Kush going because I was impressed by the initial beaded plant I grew super funky, everything I look for in an old G Kush.
Alienwidow
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Lol, we all keep low yielder fire strains for one run anyway lol. Cut er. Nothin else you can do right?
MonkeyGrinder
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If you're not worried about plant counts then go sea of green with them.
That could have a LOT to do with it. You gotta remember that almost every "breeder" on the planet has white widow, kush and all the other buzzword names. But every breeder's genetics are totally different. It's like going to buy cola, then you have to choose your brand. They're all going to be different. There's more pretenders than there are contenders. I suggest when you're shopping around for beans to not really touch anything from new and non established breeders.
If you wanna absolutely kill it in the weight department then go scrog. The downside is it takes a bit more time if you're running 1 or 2 plants. But if you're running several it evens itself out. Your basic 600 watter with an out of the box batwing from Home Depot can give a damn good harvest off one plant in a 5 gallon pot. That's pretty much pushing a plant to it's max. You're rocking a 1000 watter so you could easily go bigger with the net.
If you banzai 4 plants out and throw them under a 3x3 you can pretty much toss them into flower a week after they touch the net. Then get some nice weight from all 4 because you have one hell of a rootmass powering each of them. The trick is to pick a strain that gives very consistent proven results and little phenotype variation. Something very stable. Or go from clones from a proven plant.
You also won't have to deal with the larf BS if you go scrog. 99% of your bud will be nice and fat. You'll never want to touch a pair of fiskers again after you're trimming for 8 hours a day for a 5 days strait. The thought of another harvest will give you PTSD.
You have a few grows under your belt so you should be able to pull it off without a hitch. Trust me you won't regret it.
green217
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Just a update I threw another of those OG Kushes by that same breeder, It has fattened up nicely. t. This my keeper strain, the 4 more messages...og kush. This thing finishs in less than 8, and is so damn funky! If I lost this cut I would buy it again.
So it had to be that abuse they took being in the dark, or something else i did.
So it had to be that abuse they took being in the dark, or something else i did.
Craig1969SS
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Didn't see any burned tips. For once I'd say the plants look under fed and are failing to thrive. Organic bottle nutes alone without being blended and areated to create a bacterial and fungal rich soup may be a reason.
green217
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yeah, they may have been under fertilized I was being careful being I caused the one strain to foxtail the last time through (OG Kush). That and being depraved of light for 2-3 days while I did some fixes to the rooms. AS soon as they got that light deprivation I stuck them straight into the flower room, I was thinking that could have been it too. But they were on salt based nutes. GH duo line, Maybe I just didn't push them as hard as I should have being they were so large and bushy.
Craig1969SS
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Yeah the light thing for a few days is irrelevant to the bud density. Just think when it's cloudy and raining 3-4 days straight, the plants get deprived of sunshine. It's a minor bump not being fully illuminated and didn't bend your plants toward failure. I thought they start foxtaling when they've gone too long not due to nutrition or heat. When I find mine it's always the plants that are finished or been 12/12 the longest
SPLFreak808
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They look good, light yielding for sure im thinking genetics. A flat even canopy and a bit more food would have helped a bit imo.
green217
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Yeah but the genetics on the OG Kush is my keeper. I am glad I didn't throw all the cuts outs. Being it stalled on me on that one plant and then next grow(cutting of same mother) but it got a couple more weeks veg, it didn't sit in the dark for a couple days before being thrown in the flower room. I just harvested it, it swole up just nicely, flopped all over the place in week 6 and actually cut it in under 8 weeks and it finished. Its hard to find a fast flower like this imo, that got that super funky OG funk smell to it. I love it. Praying it doesn't recur when one of the other six cutting go threw flower.
SPLFreak808
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The dark period before flowering doesn't phase me at all. I dont think it would cause problems that far along in flower. If it were me, i would have cloned the OG and ran multiple cuts as much as i could fit for 30 days veg then flip.
green217
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The cut I have is a keeper, just harvested one today. And I took six cutting, 4 of which are still vegging. I usually veg for around 30days give or take before i flip. It is a real possibility that I got to gun shy with the nutes and didn't push it hard enough, being afraid I'd cause unwanted foxtailing. So u have left your plants in the dark at the end of veg for 2 or 3 days and had no ill effects? I thought if anything it would help initiate flowering faster, by leaving them in the dark like that before I threw them in the flower room. If u have done that before and noticed nothing then it vary well be underfeeding, just not pushing them hard enough. The smoke was great, not change in quality, but huge difference in yield at least with the Og. Never grew the other strain all the way out before. I will be pushing them now, u can count on that. Plants the size that those 2 were, I'd usually get close to4 zips a plant, I ended up with about an ounce a plant. Just no swell.
SPLFreak808
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Yes I've done the dark before flower only because i fucked my timers for 48 hours lol, i fucked up twice last year. Both rooms sat with 48 dark,all plants were droopy as hell. Everything was back ln track in a few days.
I just went back to your last pic's, they didnt get anymore fluffed up then that? That I've never seen unless she could have gone longer.
green217
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Nah they were finished. My short term memory is not so good go figure, can't remember if that was one of the plants or not. Here is a pic of that cutting that did fill out, same mother as one of the small yielding plants (OG).
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coldrain
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Excessive under growth will definitely be one factor. You have to lean on the side of being overly harsh when it comes to trimming the sucker branches. This is something that took me a long time to get down, and I routinely see too much bottom growth in other people's gardens. If there is any question at all, get rid of it.
This isn't the issue. The rule of thumb for an extended dark cycle is 3 days at the very most. I used to have occasional issues with power outages where I used to live. If you have one outage that lasts less then 3 days the plants won't be affected much, if at all. More than 3 days though and they will shock pretty bad. You're better off cutting them down and starting over at that point because they will be ruined and won't reach their full potential. Multiple light interruptions will also cause major problems.
Not necessarily. Some plants respond well to having the main stem clipped. Some don't. It comes down to knowing the strain and what it prefers. Clipping the main stem on a plant that doesn't like it's main stem clipped won't cause you to get a bunch of airy shit buds though. It will reduce yield is all.
The other factor here could be severe nute shock. That can definitely leave you with a pathetic looking buds. If that's not the case though I would start to consider genetics as being the problem. If you're growing from seed this can happen if the genetics are bunk. I've bred new strains and had this happen numerous times with one or even more than one phenotype. That's why you grow out a single clone of a mom before you commit more square footage to the strain. Every time I get a new strain, be it seed or clone, I always grow out a single cutting first. That way if it ends up being garbage you didn't dedicate much space/time/energy to it.
green217
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This strain is good, it's my keeper right now. The OG Kush, but excessive undergrowth and possible under fertilization I suppose are the culprit if Light deprivation before flower doesn't cause this. It was definitely something I did because the same strain off the same mother plant turned out just fine. I had way too much undergrowth on those two plants that's for sure. This last plant I did pretty much strip the bottom eight inches of a plant, to alleviate a bunch of airy buds.
Thanks to all for trying to help me figure out exactly what I did wrong
Thanks to all for trying to help me figure out exactly what I did wrong
green217
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no not a big flush guy, unless it's real green. But I never flushed the two plants in question. You are righ OG's are not known for their yields, I vegged it till it was a nice bush under a 600w MH. I left way to much small growth go under the main canopy, that and maybe being a little gun shy on nutes, being I foxtailed it on the run before. And it was a pretty unknown breeder that has popped up on a few seed banks, including Gorilla, where they came from. I was pretty ignorant when dealing with seedbanks, I've only grown out Breeders Boutique gear and have never had a reason to buy beans elsewhere, more than happy with the quality. I won a contest, got to pick any 10 beans I wanted out of the whole bank. I clicked on breeders on the site, all breeders are listed in alphbetical order except for Feminized Seeds. They have them right on top. I wanted to try feminized seeds, being I have grown out regular beans in the past. Anyway seemed to good to be true, when i found out i won, i didn't want to waste anytime picking something and missing out. So I clicked on feminized seeds not knowing it was a breeder, i thought it was a collective of breeder's feminized seeds. Live and learn, beans were free, but wish I had done a little more research and ordered something from a well known/documented breeder. But I feel I lucked up on the OG, It finishes FAST, and the yield isn't bad for an OG Kush. It has that unmistakable make your stomach turn smell. I like it. I still have a few more cutting in veg. I will be keeping the growth focused on the top, seemed to be a difference maker on this last plant.
Labs Dexter
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The affected plant with low yield looks like you had a P deff purple leaf stem
Could be caused by lack of it, low temps root zone or soil not drying well....
I had this a few grows and I am experiencing it again with one strain and mine is caused by shit soil I had in vegg that's not drying the root mass well, I have the same small budds for the stage I'm at
now.
But if you come accross dark leafs and purple leaf stem add some p additives it should help, ambient temps and pots drying is a must to counter the deff / for the nutrient to be absorbed.
Not stable ph caused it for me in the past aswel
Grow weed easy site has a big list of things that caused the deff have a read, it made a difference for me apart from this one plant I'm having this issue with
Hop it helps
Could be caused by lack of it, low temps root zone or soil not drying well....
I had this a few grows and I am experiencing it again with one strain and mine is caused by shit soil I had in vegg that's not drying the root mass well, I have the same small budds for the stage I'm at
now.But if you come accross dark leafs and purple leaf stem add some p additives it should help, ambient temps and pots drying is a must to counter the deff / for the nutrient to be absorbed.
Not stable ph caused it for me in the past aswel
Grow weed easy site has a big list of things that caused the deff have a read, it made a difference for me apart from this one plant I'm having this issue with
Hop it helps
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