First Legal grow and got a huge basement.

Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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ODanksta said:
I never said I switching to 200amp I will only be running 12K off the 100amp panel and I have easily, another 80amps free from upstairs.

This house was previously used for the exact same wattage.
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I got that but Cover222 said that you could indeed replace a 100Amp breaker box with a 200Amp and you would be ok and I strongly disagreed.

Don't worry your golden.
I like your setup bro.
Happy growing!

B4L
 
hondagrower420

hondagrower420

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
I got that but Cover222 said that you could indeed replace a 100Amp breaker box with a 200Amp and you would be ok and I strongly disagreed.

Don't worry your golden.
I like your setup bro.
Happy growing!

B4L
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You can just change out the box. Most mains can handle 400a. You have to get a second main dropped if you are over 400a.
 
hondagrower420

hondagrower420

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And you are saying that you have to purchase 200a service? You pay for kilowatts per hour not total amps possible.

Your main determines how many amps you can run.
 
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covert222

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
Like I said before I'm no electrician but I find it hard to believe that just changing your 100A breaker box in your basement to a 200A breaker box will give 200A without changing the service from the pole outside your home to 200A. Not to mention that the service wires need to be upgraded because you're now doubling the load.

Unless of course you figured out a way to safely double your load and NOT change the service.

My retired buddy is a master electrician and he told me unless service line is 2/0 copper or 4/0 aluminum your stuck at 100A (especially in older homes). Check NEC code 310.5b and 310.6

Otherwise the OP will risk a fire in his home he doesn't need bad info.

B4L
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Your buddy is correct about older homes but a 100 p service provides 100 amps on each leg which is 200 start up amps and 500 potential amps. I was an electrician for the electric company for 15 years. Yes some older homes out in the country are still on a 80 amp fuse box with the line service coming in only dropping 60 . You can double your drop through the electric company by upgrading your service but unless you're on a severely antiquated service and the way this dudes city sounds they wouldn't allow you to be you have 200 amps available to you and your wiring should be at least number 14 which is plenty. Good luck amigos
 
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covert222

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
Like I said before I'm no electrician but I find it hard to believe that just changing your 100A breaker box in your basement to a 200A breaker box will give 200A without changing the service from the pole outside your home to 200A. Not to mention that the service wires need to be upgraded because you're now doubling the load.

Unless of course you figured out a way to safely double your load and NOT change the service.

My retired buddy is a master electrician and he told me unless service line is 2/0 copper or 4/0 aluminum your stuck at 100A (especially in older homes). Check NEC code 310.5b and 310.6

Otherwise the OP will risk a fire in his home he doesn't need bad info.

B4L
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Or even better why not put in 3 50 p double poles and run a piece of number 10 to a square d or whatever and then run 16 110's off of that for your lights and just stagger the start up 5 minutes or whatever
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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2ANONYMOUS said:
Bro being straight up don't waste your time going vert the numbers do not match up one fucking bit i am a say it as it is kinda guy and really do not ,
Care if i hurt anyone's feelings like seriously our imaginary internet friends haha when you really think about it ,,
Seriously Vert struggles to compete with horizontal, you always here the more space area but yet when you look at these donut meatheads
You only see so many plants
Now not saying having some vertical lighting in shaded areas or supplemental lighting to complement the horizontal is bad idea No its good idea
but when we look at the numbers like 135 percent more space ??? A lot of people are doing 0.5gpw, but are reluctant to change the system because of what's possible, not what is ever likely to happen.
For me, the whole vertical = bigger yields is just a myth which has run wild since heath pulled that fantastic 2gpw grow. People are chasing the dream and failing time after time, that's just a fact evidenced by the average results of every documented vertical grow on the internet.
your much better off going horizontal any day of the week just saying don't get fooled
Vertical growing comes with some serious challenges, and it's those challenges that stop it from being the hyper efficient super yielder that a lot of people go into it thinking it will be.

It's those challenges which ultimately balance the scales with horizontal, and mean that in the end the results don't marry up with statistics like "135% more growing area" If they did, there's be no debate.
Now not trying to start anything its your grow do what ever you like and what you feel will work the best for your situation
Its all about the numbers at the end of the day veg times it is very ironic vert growers tend to leave that out haha i mean seriously Ask leagally flying what is numbers were 32,000 watts i bet .3 - .4 gpw
i would destroy them numbers same k wattage same strain 2 week veg plants 500 plants DESTROY and that is being efficient

Here some plant porn they will be 2 pound plants each plant has easy 50 - 60 tops with extreme tight internodes
I will post pictures later on with 0 larf compared to Vertical again another myth ran wild anyways
4 week veg 400 watts for 2 weeks and 600 now 2 weeks another week and flip
20 gallon organic water only 1.96 GPW View attachment 3598028 View attachment 3598030 View attachment 3598031 View attachment 3598032
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good looking plants my friend,
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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i have had lots of head gasket issues with certain year subaru's,, the newer ones have chain driven cam shafts,, so no need to change the rubber band on those,, makes it nicer

EDIT: be sure to goggle subaru head gasket failure , and stay away from those problamatic years if buying used,, should help you avoid a lemon
 
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Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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hondagrower420 said:
And you are saying that you have to purchase 200a service? You pay for kilowatts per hour not total amps possible.

Your main determines how many amps you can run.
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Did you look up NEC CODE 310.5
The following is from yahoo there are many other sources out there.

B4L



changing the outside line is the easiest part why are you trying to avoid doing that


if you have 100 amp wire feeding the panel you can only safely get 100 of power out of it

so if you don't change the wires and panel than you have not upgrade the ability of the service
Source(s): i am a master electrician
 
hondagrower420

hondagrower420

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
Did you look up NEC CODE 310.5
The following is from yahoo there are many other sources out there.

B4L



changing the outside line is the easiest part why are you trying to avoid doing that


if you have 100 amp wire feeding the panel you can only safely get 100 of power out of it

so if you don't change the wires and panel than you have not upgrade the ability of the service
Source(s): i am a master electrician
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Dude, most mains are 400a. I think you keep missing this.

Your box is wired for the house not the main. Meaning the amp rating in your box reflects wiring in the house.

Not the other way around.
 
hondagrower420

hondagrower420

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And just fyi. This is my grow trailor that was orginally 100a. I didn't get another main dropped or anything. Just made sure the main could support 200a. The trailor was from the 80s or some shit.

So you can just drop a box if your main can handle it.1454963900461-1856891388.jpg
 
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