Good cheaper additives.

Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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I'm using Vitanimo and hydroguard in my setups but holy god they're pricey. I do think they help but all anecdotal but want to continue. Are they're cheaper substitutes? I've ordered a replacement for the hydroguard that hopefully will have the same results but it's the vitanimo I'm having a problem finding. I find with my heavy calcium content in the water it seems to help but again all just my results.
 
William1976

William1976

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Budley Doright said:
I'm using Vitanimo and hydroguard in my setups but holy god they're pricey. I do think they help but all anecdotal but want to continue. Are they're cheaper substitutes? I've ordered a replacement for the hydroguard that hopefully will have the same results but it's the vitanimo I'm having a problem finding. I find with my heavy calcium content in the water it seems to help but again all just my results.
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What is vitanimo?
 
vostok

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They will look back on the post legalization days of weed as one of the 'Great American Rippoffs' ..lol

much ..and I mean 'Very Much' of what is now sold in them grow shops is a joke

keep in mind the adage of the 1970's

"Man, .. its a weed ...man, and grows anywhere' still applies in this 21st century

see ur 'bottled sewage for whats it is ...shit, very expensive shit

and I met more than one rich, lazy industrial chemist who pisses into his own vats ...lol (true)

and for that .. a teaspoon of your morning urine added to half a gallon of water does wonders(true)

also 10 minutes on youtube will teach you the fine art of organic tea comfrey for budding and nettles for veg

Good Luck
 
Hessam

Hessam

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vostok said:
"Man, .. its a weed ...man, and grows anywhere' still applies in this 21st century
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I think that doesn't apply to indoor growing, but still explains why we don't have to do a lot of stupid things to achieve a big harvest. :rolleyes:
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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vostok said:
They will look back on the post legalization days of weed as one of the 'Great American Rippoffs' ..lol

much ..and I mean 'Very Much' of what is now sold in them grow shops is a joke

keep in mind the adage of the 1970's

"Man, .. its a weed ...man, and grows anywhere' still applies in this 21st century

see ur 'bottled sewage for whats it is ...shit, very expensive shit

and I met more than one rich, lazy industrial chemist who pisses into his own vats ...lol (true)

and for that .. a teaspoon of your morning urine added to half a gallon of water does wonders(true)

also 10 minutes on youtube will teach you the fine art of organic tea comfrey for budding and nettles for veg

Good Luck
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So you don't think they are worth while huh lol. I read your threads and posts all the time and know you know your shit but....., As I said I do believe my plants are doing better but no proof. The beneficial bacteria have kept the root zone nicer than the peroxide and yup, they seem to do better. As for the amino acids, well that may or may not be doing much but my shit would get all blotchy and show what looked like calcium def. so had some one suggest using an amino acid product and the last few grows have not experienced that. Not recommending anyone use these products and that's not what this threads about. It's about finding a cheap source. I don't use any other additives and buy my nutes from a local factory that mixes for others.... cheap as dirt lol. Hell I don't even switch from grow to flower just a balanced one all the way through. I just want a cheap alternative for what I think works with my particular setup and "well water". It's not like I'm using the whole AN line lol. All I want is two cheap additives lol
 
smokealotabuds

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vostok said:
They will look back on the post legalization days of weed as one of the 'Great American Rippoffs' ..lol

much ..and I mean 'Very Much' of what is now sold in them grow shops is a joke

keep in mind the adage of the 1970's

"Man, .. its a weed ...man, and grows anywhere' still applies in this 21st century

see ur 'bottled sewage for whats it is ...shit, very expensive shit

and I met more than one rich, lazy industrial chemist who pisses into his own vats ...lol (true)

and for that .. a teaspoon of your morning urine added to half a gallon of water does wonders(true)

also 10 minutes on youtube will teach you the fine art of organic tea comfrey for budding and nettles for veg

Good Luck
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I knew that i wasn't crazy diluted piss really does help your plants thrive! no lie it worked for me as well...it contains high levels of nitrogen which will promote vast green leaf growth for the veggy stage definitely worth doing! That shit works wonders and there are many others who believe the same... good luck hope your young ladies recover! Pray to Cannaboniodus
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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And I know it grows anywhere, had a seeds germ in lots of weird places. Lol. I grew for years in fields and all we used was poop, lots of dried composted poop, big fields!
 
green217

green217

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Botanicare grow Pro and Pro bloom, that's all you need and maybe whatever additives if any is needed to correct pH of your water depending on me and you're using I guess. But those 2 bottles will get you through a bad ass girl with good yields and its organic
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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green217 said:
Botanicare grow Pro and Pro bloom, that's all you need and maybe whatever additives if any is needed to correct pH of your water depending on me and you're using I guess. But those 2 bottles will get you through a bad ass girl with good yields and its organic
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Yes they will your right, tried them, I get similar results with what I'm using now. I've ran lots of different things actually and got the best results with what I'm using now but had really good results with H&G AquaFlakes as well. Not organic though. It's Just to expensive to justify now that I'm running multiple systems.
 
vostok

vostok

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Budley Doright said:
So you don't think they are worth while huh lol. I read your threads and posts all the time and know you know your shit but....., As I said I do believe my plants are doing better but no proof. The beneficial bacteria have kept the root zone nicer than the peroxide and yup, they seem to do better. As for the amino acids, well that may or may not be doing much but my shit would get all blotchy and show what looked like calcium def. so had some one suggest using an amino acid product and the last few grows have not experienced that. Not recommending anyone use these products and that's not what this threads about. It's about finding a cheap source. I don't use any other additives and buy my nutes from a local factory that mixes for others.... cheap as dirt lol. Hell I don't even switch from grow to flower just a balanced one all the way through. I just want a cheap alternative for what I think works with my particular setup and "well water". It's not like I'm using the whole AN line lol. All I want is two cheap additives lol
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Don't get,me wrong, your grow method is very similar to my mine,

back in the day('72) we had no nematodes, amino acids, or high tech,

then some collage student from Frisco hung a basket ball court light up in his room to grow weed .....and it all took off!

since about then it has always been the same, look to your soils, encourage life in the soil, the plants will follow, I was told and its true.

below is some essential reading to get you consumeristic head out the sand ..lol


http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microbes-Organic-Gardeners-Revised/dp/1604691131 $19.05


http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Nutrients-Gardeners-Optimizing-Nutrition/dp/1604693142/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2/190-2191643-0609517?ie=UTF8&refRID=0HBB6957CPCCWMTVCPNY $19.05

good luck
 
mmmmbrownies

mmmmbrownies

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pretty sure shipping is free..... and you aren't paying for water :)
Budley Doright said:
Great!!! Thank you, it looks like a great place to get cheap supplements. Again thanks, I'll check out the shipping costs, that's what kills the deal here, plus a dollar that's worth shit right now lol.
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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mmmmbrownies said:
pretty sure shipping is free..... and you aren't paying for water :)
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Nothing here is free :o.
vostok said:
Don't get,me wrong, your grow method is very similar to my mine,

back in the day('72) we had no nematodes, amino acids, or high tech,

then some collage student from Frisco hung a basket ball court light up in his room to grow weed .....and it all took off!

since about then it has always been the same, look to your soils, encourage life in the soil, the plants will follow, I was told and its true.

below is some essential reading to get you consumeristic head out the sand ..lol


http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microbes-Organic-Gardeners-Revised/dp/1604691131 $19.05


http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Nutrients-Gardeners-Optimizing-Nutrition/dp/1604693142/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2/190-2191643-0609517?ie=UTF8&refRID=0HBB6957CPCCWMTVCPNY $19.05

good luck
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LOL he started 2 years before me. I did grow outdoors though, I plowed I up a 1/4 acre on the farm and planted 50 Mexican bag seeds plants. I'm also sricktly hydro not dirt any more. If I was growing in soil I would probably use living soil. In the summer I do head to the swamp and use composted soils and feed bags or grow bags but this time of year it's in my shed. But thanks Vostok I'll have a read.
 
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