another newbie question...

[CabronXIX]

last night i transplanted her to potting mix (soil,perlite,cocodust,and coarse sand)
Then i watered her enough, after about 12 hours she began looking strange.
Can someone please distinguish my problem and what i need to do
Thank you in advance

 

[CabronXIX]

Back up question is coffe grounds safe on my baby? Also urea?

 

[Jenny 209916]

what kind of soil are u using? And plants that small always wilt a bit when transplanted ive noticed from personal experience.. I wouldn't worry now give it a day or two

 

[Nyan Rapier]

My first instinct is that it looks overwatered.

 

[Jenny 209916]

What's your temperature?

 

[Alienwidow]

Ok man, i help a lot of people out on this site but your probably the most lost ive seen in a month.
Coffee goes in a cup, not your weed. Fail. Dont ever do that or anything dumb like it again. No egg shells, no "urea", you piss on your plants and you might as well not post on the internet. Im just hoping you havent done it yet.

So your first major problem is the size of the pot and the size of your plant. Over watering is terrible for your plants. Slow growth and bigtime droop is a symptom. The reason your seeing it is because that pot is so big. You saturated it and the plant is the size of a pinkey finger. It cant drink all that, so the roots drown. You need to wait until the coco sand? mix is dry and then water in small amounts. Like a half cup at a time.

Personally id just scoop it out of there and put it in straight coco, no bs in there, especially not sand. New pot, fresh start. Then fall off your wallet and buy some two part, soiless fertilizer from a hydro store (25$) and a bottle of calmag(12$) and grow right.

In soiless you need to feed at low ppms at first, so like 100ppm at first or like just a few drops of fertilizer until it can take it. Soiless (coco) has no nutrients in it so your responsible for all the food. Obviously a pinky sized plant cant eat much, or drink much so dont overdo it.

Buy a ppm meter and use it. Soiless growing is usually done with full synthetic fertilizer. Not any bs organic. Organic needs to be broken down through a soil web of critters and then gets absorbed. Synthetic is a form of fertilizer that can be absorbed by the plant directly without any breakdown...perfect for a grow medium that has no food in it already

Hope this helped.

 

[Jenny 209916]

I agree with widow pull it out and put in smaller pot

 

[Oregonhasweed]

Yeah im as green as my plants when in it comes to experience growing. However im no dummy i have literally fallen asleep reading info on growing... no joke haha however my first thought was over watering people often lump over /under watering together however its very clear to me at least in my experience that an overwatered plant just looks saturated like old salad in a bag haha. Kinda like that picture lol. Like alien said i just think a new watering regiment is in order or simply a new pot with a simple media

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

single part fertilizer without calmag works in coco, too. dyna gro foliage pro for the win (way under $25, i think ebay has a small bottle that will last a grow for $9.00)

Everything else @Alienwidow said was right on

 

[Alienwidow]

single part fertilizer without calmag works in coco, too. dyna gro foliage pro for the win (way under $25, i think ebay has a small bottle that will last a grow for $9.00)

Everything else @Alienwidow said was right on

Semantics although im stickin with my guns on the calmag. I see 15 a month on here with cal or mag deficiancies. I get em if i dont run calmag in soiless all the time, theyre on the verge of macro nutrients impo.

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

@Alienwidow check out some of homebrewer's threads. dyna gro foliage pro has all macros and micros you need in the right ratio (I used distilled water (with FP and Protekt of course) in promix bx with no problems, never had problems running it in coco either).

***full disclosure - except i underwatered in promix this grow(first time using it), but she has recovered with only FP and Protekt in distilled water and is now at 0% yellow!!

 

[Alienwidow]

@Alienwidow check out some of homebrewer's threads. dyna gro foliage pro has all macros and micros you need in the right ratio (I used distilled water (with FP and Protekt of course) in promix bx with no problems, never had problems running it in coco either).

***full disclosure - except i underwatered in promix this grow(first time using it), but she has recovered with only FP and Protekt in distilled water and is now at 0% yellow!!

Ive heard so many good things about dynagrow. I even have a few of their shirts but my hydro store doesnt carry them and never has so i know nothing about them. All i know is that what ive been doing im happy with and it always includes a calmag suppliment, even if theres cal and mag in my base. My starting ppms are really low on my water to start with too, not like tap water.

 

[thumper60]

@Alienwidow check out some of homebrewer's threads. dyna gro foliage pro has all macros and micros you need in the right ratio (I used distilled water (with FP and Protekt of course) in promix bx with no problems, never had problems running it in coco either).

***full disclosure - except i underwatered in promix this grow(first time using it), but she has recovered with only FP and Protekt in distilled water and is now at 0% yellow!!

promix has lime=cal

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

promix has lime=cal

coco doesn't have any cal in it, and the amount in promix would not be enough during the flowering phase if you didn't add it somehow into your regimen (especially since i use bx and add extra perlite and vermiculite to smooth out the texture).

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

Ive heard so many good things about dynagrow. I even have a few of their shirts but my hydro store doesnt carry them and never has so i know nothing about them. All i know is that what ive been doing im happy with and it always includes a calmag suppliment, even if theres cal and mag in my base. My starting ppms are really low on my water to start with too, not like tap water.

i use distilled(2 ppm .5 scale) or store bough ro (20ppm .5 scale) also because the water here is hard and high in ppm, over 500.

I wouldn't knock the way you're doing things, and learn a lot from the advice you help all the newbies out with. I was just suggesting another way for newbies that allows them to figure out watering frequency, volume, and amount of nutrients with an all in one bottle formula known not to cause deficiencies. This way it is easier for them to dial things in without worrying about if they have enough of certain macros or micros or the right ratio, etc. I've heard some others are the same but only have experience with dyna.

They sell it online, and it's cheap as hell. I don't go to the hydro shop, the owner's a dick.

 

[CabronXIX]

i use my own potting mix (Perlite,Soil,Cocodust,Coarse Sand) since i don't have access to all kind of mix like on your country does

Cocodust = no really as dust from inside a dried coconut, but dusts from coco lumbers (refined katcha) since it has the same characterisistic as coco

Perlite = those plant shops in our place knows only how to earn money but dont even know what theyre sellin" (They Say It's perlite)

Coarse Sand = i got these from brown beach sand far from our place (believing that adding this will make the soil more lighter when watered)

Soil = a normal gardening soil which is a little cracky when dry (but still not that hard like normal dirt)

speaking of calmag we dont really have access to cal-mag here also (thats why im looking for nutes substitutes)

Coffee Grounds?, a friend of mine gives me a coffee grounds from Starbucks
(it says)
H of 6.9
Carbon Nitrogen ratio of 20:1
and says here on label can be use as a side dressing for nitrogen loving plants
so im thinking if this can be used so i have substitute on nutes (Nitrogen)

and talking about "UREA" as im looking on home hardwares for nutes i saw this Urea thing and thought it could be another substitute for my problem (thats why im asking about this)

i apologize if i'm using such things,its because i am looking for a substitute for all.

the temperature here is :

31 - 35 Deg Celsius (DAY)
27 - 31 Deg Celsius (NIGHT)

You guys can't even imagine why we dont have access for such kinds of thing?
just trust me im not telling you lies

Peace.Love

 

[Alienwidow]

i use distilled(2 ppm .5 scale) or store bough ro (20ppm .5 scale) also because the water here is hard and high in ppm, over 500.

I wouldn't knock the way you're doing things, and learn a lot from the advice you help all the newbies out with. I was just suggesting another way for newbies that allows them to figure out watering frequency, volume, and amount of nutrients with an all in one bottle formula known not to cause deficiencies. This way it is easier for them to dial things in without worrying about if they have enough of certain macros or micros or the right ratio, etc. I've heard some others are the same but only have experience with dyna.

They sell it online, and it's cheap as hell. I don't go to the hydro shop, the owner's a dick.

I know what your sayin. Most hydro stores (even mine) want you to buy the whole store. I do my research and try and cut through the crap to try and run the minimum and still have happy plants. But personally i love my store. I had four ballasts in my t5s go out, replaced, with loners to get me by. I had a humidity problem once, they lent me a 170 pt dehu for a month! I get shirts, hats, frisbees, flags, lighters, posters all for free. Not to mention the free nutrients! Almost every time i go int there im getting sample bottles of stuff for the garden from aminos to root tonic and even bug sprays. They were over supplied with free stuff the other day and had a whole box of regeneroot and the guy said, just take the whole box! Holy shit! I couldnt believe it. If i would have bought that from canna it would have cost me probably 500 bucks. Plus theres the discount rack. Cracked cap gallon of calmag, 10 bucks. Mycos with a hole in the bag used to be 50 bucks, 15 bucks.
The trick to hydro stores is knowing what you need to get from them. I like getting lights and mechanical things and i always will spend a couple extra bucks for warrenty. Usually theyll give you loners if say a ballast goes out, or a sensor probe stops working right. I ran my whole outdoor from free food last year and i bet ill do it again this year lol.

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

I know what your sayin. Most hydro stores (even mine) want you to buy the whole store. I do my research and try and cut through the crap to try and run the minimum and still have happy plants. But personally i love my store. I had four ballasts in my t5s go out, replaced, with loners to get me by. I had a humidity problem once, they lent me a 170 pt dehu for a month! I get shirts, hats, frisbees, flags, lighters, posters all for free. Not to mention the free nutrients! Almost every time i go int there im getting sample bottles of stuff for the garden from aminos to root tonic and even bug sprays. They were over supplied with free stuff the other day and had a whole box of regeneroot and the guy said, just take the whole box! Holy shit! I couldnt believe it. If i would have bought that from canna it would have cost me probably 500 bucks. Plus theres the discount rack. Cracked cap gallon of calmag, 10 bucks. Mycos with a hole in the bag used to be 50 bucks, 15 bucks.
The trick to hydro stores is knowing what you need to get from them. I like getting lights and mechanical things and i always will spend a couple extra bucks for warrenty. Usually theyll give you loners if say a ballast goes out, or a sensor probe stops working right. I ran my whole outdoor from free food last year and i bet ill do it again this year lol.

damn, you are lucky man. I tried to get the guy to order some foliage pro for me and he said there is no market for it. he had a ripped open bag of promix bx and i was going to offer him $20 for 5 gallons, but he stopped me after attempting twice to get the offer out because he was going to "tape it back up and still get full price out of it". ($22 would have been the amount on a full bag but i only needed 5 gallons worth).

@CabronXIX - do they have ebay where you are?