This is gonna get interesting! Militia takes over Ore. federal building after protest.

GrowUrOwnDank

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You are stretching the truth a bit here. If a private company owns land it is not going to let it get cut to the ground or overgrazed. I think you will find lots of those abuses happened on 'government' owned land. A corporation will re-plant trees because it is economically profitable to re-seed and then cut another generation of trees.

The oversight today is 1000 times more than in the wild west days, you cant just show up somewhere, clear cut an area and high tail it back to town without people knowing what is going on.

But lets get back to the question. Why does the federal government own land? I dont see why they should own any. There may be a good argument to be made for the states owning land but I am not sure about that either. Land is like public housing, if you dont own it, why would you care about it?
Cause man. Peeps want to go enjoy looking at the natural setting. View the land pristine and innocent and unencumbered by weapons. Or cow shit. Plus these federal lands give the land care keepers decent enough low paying jobs. Simple people with simple Lives that don't make much money. And maybe save up and set a good example for their children to get a good education. So their children can be honorable people. And not whine cause they want to "occupy" free lands for the American people. Just saying.

Peace and love bro.
 

NLXSK1

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Cause man. Peeps want to go enjoy looking at the natural setting. View the land pristine and innocent and unencumbered by weapons. Or cow shit. Plus these federal give the land care keepers jobs. Simple people with simple Lives that don't make much money. And maybe save up and set a good example for their children to get a good education. So their children can be honorable people. And not whine cause they want to "occupy" free lands for the American people. Just saying.

Peace and love bro.
Bro... What would the difference be if they wore state government uniforms instead of federal government uniforms? Why does the FEDERAL government need to own state land?
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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Bro... What would the difference be if they wore state government uniforms instead of federal government uniforms? Why does the FEDERAL government need to own state land?
Seriously. The fed paid for those highways and the food stamps. Your argument is totally fucking stupid.
 

Fogdog

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You are stretching the truth a bit here. If a private company owns land it is not going to let it get cut to the ground or overgrazed. I think you will find lots of those abuses happened on 'government' owned land. A corporation will re-plant trees because it is economically profitable to re-seed and then cut another generation of trees.

The oversight today is 1000 times more than in the wild west days, you cant just show up somewhere, clear cut an area and high tail it back to town without people knowing what is going on.

But lets get back to the question. Why does the federal government own land? I dont see why they should own any. There may be a good argument to be made for the states owning land but I am not sure about that either. Land is like public housing, if you dont own it, why would you care about it?
I'll ignore the first two paragraphs because, well, they are ignorant. Regarding your third paragraph, you have your opinion and I have mine. Neither are particularly important. The Supreme Court ruled in 1911 that the federal govt. owns that land. The ruling has survived multiple challenges since then. That's important. Don't like it? That's not important. Neither is Bundy's opinion.
 

NLXSK1

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I'll ignore the first two paragraphs because, well, they are ignorant. Regarding your third paragraph, you have your opinion and I have mine. Neither are particularly important. The Supreme Court ruled in 1911 that the federal govt. owns that land. The ruling has survived multiple challenges since then. That's important. Don't like it? That's not important. Neither is Bundy's opinion.
Actually, my opinion is important. And it might shock you but this is a discussion forum where people discuss things. You may not have been paying attention lately but Marijuana is becoming legal... It is becoming so due to people's opinions and the laws are changing accordingly.

So yeah, maybe the federal government does have the right to own land but why? Maybe we should change that. I am not referring to Bundy nor this case as I have barely paid attention to it. I am addressing the overall issue.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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Actually, my opinion is important. And it might shock you but this is a discussion forum where people discuss things. You may not have been paying attention lately but Marijuana is becoming legal... It is becoming so due to people's opinions and the laws are changing accordingly.

So yeah, maybe the federal government does have the right to own land but why? Maybe we should change that. I am not referring to Bundy nor this case as I have barely paid attention to it. I am addressing the overall issue.
Son. Most of your "state" programs are subsided by income taxes. Now. If you and all the residents of your state figure out a way to pay back all that federal money WE the people of other states taxed income. Then GROW BALLS AND BUY YOUR STATE BACK AND ALL THE LAND! Til then. Your state is a welfare state the relies on federal money to exist. Your state are a buncha whinny basterds wanting to shit on mine and all of the othe tax payers of Americas land!

STOP BEING SUCH A WHINER!

Peace and love. Stupid.
 

NLXSK1

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Son. Most of your "state" programs are subsided by income taxes. Now. If you and all the residents of your state figure out a way to pay back all that federal money WE the people of other states taxed income. Then GROW BALLS AND BUY YOUR STATE BACK AND ALL THE LAND! Til then. Your state is a welfare state the relies on federal money to exist. Your state are a buncha whinny basterds wanting to shit on mine and all of the othe tax payers of Americas land!

STOP BEING SUCH A WHINER!

Peace and love. Stupid.
LOL!!! So much for Peace and Love... You cant even keep it up for 2 weeks...

So, the federal government confiscates our tax money and then gives it back to the states if they do what the federal government wants and that is my problem? How about the federal government stop taking all that tax money and let the states conduct their own business with it...

Decentralize the power and you decentralize the corruption and waste.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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LOL!!! So much for Peace and Love... You cant even keep it up for 2 weeks...

So, the federal government confiscates our tax money and then gives it back to the states if they do what the federal government wants and that is my problem? How about the federal government stop taking all that tax money and let the states conduct their own business with it...

Decentralize the power and you decentralize the corruption and waste.
:roll:
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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Does the federal government?
No. The government collects taxes to build roads for you to travel on. And to provide those with lessor means food stamps so they don't break into your crib and steal your stuff to pawn so they can get something to eat. Just sayin bro.
 

NLXSK1

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No. The government collects taxes to build roads for you to travel on. And to provide those with lessor means food stamps so they don't break into your crib and steal your stuff to pawn so they can get something to eat. Just sayin bro.
So the federal government owns up to half of some states in the southwest and they dont pay taxes on what they own so the average American citizen is totally getting screwed out of that tax revenue...

The local county taxes pay for roads, schools, police and fire protection, not federal funds. Try to keep on track here!!
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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:wink:T
So the federal government owns up to half of some states in the southwest and they dont pay taxes on what they own so the average American citizen is totally getting screwed out of that tax revenue...

The local county taxes pay for roads, schools, police and fire protection, not federal funds. Try to keep on track here!!
You're boring. :roll:
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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They can't really just leave I don't think. I mean the next stop is handcuffs and will need to do a little time in jail. Hope it was worth it for them just to show off their guns.

What a silly little legacy of drama they will leave behind.
 
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