What does your perfect system look like?

[CannaReview]

At least they're forced by law to be tested. The other guys are not and in all seriousness how many customers would run to a lab with their newly bought bag and pay to have it tested. The probability of that is slim to none.

The med grade example is exactly right. some growers are better than others.
They used to use the term "wheel chair weed" in the BM to flog their buds as med grown.
Was it true or even close? Who knows for sure.

You have completely turned this once aging into poor LP's bad dispensaries thread. It should be closed. I would like to state for 99% of people on here we don't give a fuck that LP's have a harder time then dispensaries.

 

[JungleStrikeGuy]

The other guys are not and in all seriousness how many customers would run to a lab with their newly bought bag and pay to have it tested. The probability of that is slim to none.

I bet this is exactly what Tilray was thinking

Patients that are being extorted to pay prohibition+ pricing to LP's are most certainly biased. Just like LP's (and supporters) are biased in spreading propaganda. At the end of the day it's a plant that has made the whole world hysterical over it.

 

[ricky1lung]

people still giving this idiot the time of day lol he's had like 3 grow journals all utterly fail. He vegged a plant for 26days and mid flower its only big as my foot, smaller then the 1000w bulb he grew it with.

No wonder he pushes LPs rite ricky1fucked

Oh really?
I've posted pics. Everyone is welcome to look.

And with that, you've discretited yourself. So why should anyone put stock in what you say next?

Nice try.

 

[nsbudca]

So then go fix tweed.
There has to be a reason why the product is so bad with all that money behind it right?
It's just a plant how hard can it be.
So what if the flower room is 400 000 sq feet the employees love those plants

I would have to agree.

Even though I've gotten some good LP stuff, you can still see the factoryness in some of it.

 

[awesomecannuk]

The product is bad?

I dont think so. I think you guys are out of touch with reality.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

if you had a license then i would agree but not if you "just set up shop" i am against that for any business. we all have to follow some kind of rules

Yeah, the rule is do not harm others. That rule always exists in common law - unless the government protects companies from it through regulations. Which is exactly what is happening with our garbage food supply right now. Sprayed with more pesticides than you can shake a stick at. Many cancer causing. Many estrogen mimickers (hello plummeting birth rates). No thanks. Government protectionism is bullshit.

 

[redi jedi]

At least they're forced by law to be tested. The other guys are not and in all seriousness how many customers would run to a lab with their newly bought bag and pay to have it tested. The probability of that is slim to none.

The med grade example is exactly right. some growers are better than others.
They used to use the term "wheel chair weed" in the BM to flog their buds as med grown.
Was it true or even close? Who knows for sure.

If I could have my bud tested, I would. For my own curiosity if nothing else. I've tried many times around TO.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

You're crazy if you think that's all the protection needed or available to customers of goods in a first world country. This is really sad.

The law protects against harm. Regulations allow companies to inflict harm with protection of government. That is exactly what is happening now. You could sue for contamination if someone were trying to poison you. Again, common law would not be thrown out. Would also create a nice little set of side industries for testing as well as trade groups...

 

[nsbudca]

If I could have my bud tested, I would. For my own curiosity if nothing else. I've tried many times around TO.

Bet you'd cry when it failed the tox screen.

 

[JungleStrikeGuy]

The law protects against harm. Regulations allow companies to inflict harm with protection of government. That is exactly what is happening now. You could sue for contamination if someone were trying to poison you. Again, common law would not be thrown out.

Yep. Why some people feel the need to beg the government to protect them from a plant that has had 0 recorded deaths ever is really beyond me.

 

[doingdishes]

If I could have my bud tested, I would. For my own curiosity if nothing else. I've tried many times around TO.

it's about $100 so not cost effective for the little guy.
for bigger crops, that would be worth it.
i am not saying don't...just that the smaller crops might not want/have the $100

 

[awesomecannuk]

The law protects against harm. Regulations allow companies to inflict harm with protection of government. That is exactly what is happening now. You could sue for contamination if someone were trying to poison you. Again, common law would not be thrown out.

This is bullshit. Regulations allow companies to inflict harm? I stepped into some crazy and I can't get it off my shoes.

 

[ricky1lung]

You have completely turned this once aging into poor LP's bad dispensaries thread. It should be closed. I would like to state for 99% of people on here we don't give a fuck that LP's have a harder time then dispensaries.

That is not what it's about.
If you don't see that a licenced producer will be a part of the market, med or rec, I cannot help you.

You need to step back a bit and actually see what I'm asking and understand what legal markets look like. They're regulated.

If all you have is baseless arguments that are so close minded that you can't see the writing on the wall just step out of the tread.

No need to get so worked up and lash out.
I will only be pushed so far.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

This is bullshit. Regulations allow companies to inflict harm? I stepped into some crazy and I can't get it off my shoes.

Yeah, they do. They offer protection through the guise of government approval. Almost everything Monsanto produces is poison and yet it is absolutely everywhere - more than just in our food supply. In our water supply, in the ground - in the air if you live near a farm.

All completely legal despite harm being demonstrable because they can hide behind the government.


Patent law is used to do the exact same thing to protect oil companies contaminating the water supply through fracking in Canada. You can't even bring a suit despite obvious contaimination in the water because the chemicals the oil companies use are trade secrets and protected by patent law. Good game.

*edit* those people suffering from ground water contamination are also suffering with greatly increased cancer rates - but oh well! Government there to provide necessary protection because government is owned by said large interest groups completely.

 

[bigmanc]

Oh really?
I've posted pics. Everyone is welcome to look.

And with that, you've discretited yourself. So why should anyone put stock in what you say next?

Nice try.

i don't care what you post right now. What you have posted is a joke, you vegged a plant for a month and it was 2-4inches lol asking people how to setup a timer for 1 light you have no idea what your doing here your just a troll with no knowledge.

I see and understand why you support LPs. Just show people your journals they will stop arguing with you.

 

[ricky1lung]

Yeah, they do. They offer protection through the guise of government approval. Almost everything Monsanto produces is poison and yet it is absolutely everywhere - more than just in our food supply. In our water supply, in the ground - in the air if you live near a farm.

All completely legal despite harm being demonstrable because they can hide behind the government.

So allow a market that has no regulations?
Do you see the error in judgment now?

 

[JungleStrikeGuy]

This is bullshit. Regulations allow companies to inflict harm? I stepped into some crazy and I can't get it off my shoes.

Of course they do. The entire idea behind NAFTA and TPP was 'regulations' to help corporations and hurt citizens. Opening the floodgates to foreign workers is a 'regulation', and I'd say that'll hurt domestic jobs pretty badly.

Seriously, you need to stop holding up 'regulations' as some kind of panacea that magically fixes everything. It doesn't.

 

[redi jedi]

Bet you'd cry when it failed the tox screen.

LOL...I bet you'd get down on your knees to pay for it.

 

[JungleStrikeGuy]

So allow a market that has no regulations?
Do you see the error in judgment now?

When you go to a farmers market do you demand documentation as to how potatoes are grown? The 'market which has no regulations' is clearly a strawman.

 

[ricky1lung]

i don't care what you post right now. What you have posted is a joke, you vegged a plant for a month and it was 2-4inches lol asking people how to setup a timer for 1 light you have no idea what your doing here your just a troll with no knowledge.

I see and understand why you support LPs. Just show people your journals they will stop arguing with you.

They can look for themselves.
Everyone learns.

I got better and am happy to have gained knowledge.

So what is it you're trying to do? Oh I'm sorry, you knew everything before you started and grew perfect plants from day one.

Yeah. Nice try.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

So allow a market that has no regulations?
Do you see the error in judgment now?

Yes, no regulations. There is no error in judgement. Regulation comes from the market place itself and the non harm principle. Lawsuits, trade associations, industries being created to ensure safety - outside of government and with a greatly reduced threat (especially with an educated responsible populace who votes with dollars) of being captured and monopolized to the benefit of a tiny few.