Heavyweight Fast & Vast auto

kev junior

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30 days after 3 weeks in dirt, 45-70 days total, mine went for a full 7.5 weeks from germination(seeds popped) to flower, then 12 weeks of flower...11.5 weeks actually. I pulled them early at that even.
crazy shit... kind of not auto... but I was told they were, and they flowered automatically. no light change.
 

Ghost Dog

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So I'm a total noob, both to growing and to this website. Found this thread as I'm growing this strain as my first ever grow (3 plants in a hydro setup) and felt like contributing my progress as well as maybe get some advice as to my next steps, etc...

Like I said I'm a complete noob, basically doing this grow to check something off my "always wanted to do list" before the wife and I start having kids, and on top of that I've had limited time and resources due to a whole bunch of other reasons. That being said, I feel like my plants are doing pretty well despite my ham fisted approach to the whole thing. I put them in the cabinet on Christmas Eve 3 or 4 days after germination (maybe 5?). So I guess that puts them at 27 - 30 or so days since germination.
My cabinet is only 4 feet tall and I already have the plants on a slightly elevated platform (I left an empty cavity at the bottom and drilled holes into the elevated floor to build negative pressure, now I'm thinking I should have just drilled holes into the sides as I think I'm going to need the space), so I think I'm going to put in a SCROG after the plants grow a little more to spread out the canopy's and control the height.

Anyway, here are a couple picks. The one with the lighter is a close up of the largest of my 3 plants.
 

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kev junior

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So I'm a total noob, both to growing and to this website. Found this thread as I'm growing this strain as my first ever grow (3 plants in a hydro setup) and felt like contributing my progress as well as maybe get some advice as to my next steps, etc...

Like I said I'm a complete noob, basically doing this grow to check something off my "always wanted to do list" before the wife and I start having kids, and on top of that I've had limited time and resources due to a whole bunch of other reasons. That being said, I feel like my plants are doing pretty well despite my ham fisted approach to the whole thing. I put them in the cabinet on Christmas Eve 3 or 4 days after germination (maybe 5?). So I guess that puts them at 27 - 30 or so days since germination.
My cabinet is only 4 feet tall and I already have the plants on a slightly elevated platform (I left an empty cavity at the bottom and drilled holes into the elevated floor to build negative pressure, now I'm thinking I should have just drilled holes into the sides as I think I'm going to need the space), so I think I'm going to put in a SCROG after the plants grow a little more to spread out the canopy's and control the height.

Anyway, here are a couple picks. The one with the lighter is a close up of the largest of my 3 plants.
scrogs work nice. so do bamboo sticks
 

lonzo212

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I'm disappointed with mine as well. I'm finding that they are very sensitive to nutrients. I just started mine a little over a week ago and have lost two due to hot soil apparently. The rest of my plants, auto's included, are loving it. I still have 3 left that are doing alright after I transplanted them to a potting soil that is a little more neutral when it comes to the nutes. I've decided to wait til these are ready to harvest before I germinate my other pack.
u dnt transplant autos....any stress fcks em up
 

kev junior

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i transplanted from a 3 gal. to a ten gal. I didn't know they were autos till after that. but mine did ok, about 2.5-3- Oz. per plant.
 

Ghost Dog

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10 days later and I'm worried I may run out of room now. Built a scrog but screwed up the measurements, measure twice cut once, and by the time I got around to trying to rebuild it they exploded and it was too late. I've just been lightly bending the stalk outwards to try and spread them out.

I figure they'll need at least another 3 weeks or 4 weeks of flowering for the buds to fill out. Would it be worth it to introduce another light at this stage to boost the flowering process? I had initially intended this grow to be kind of a checklist item for before the wife and I have kids, so I didn't invest much into it since I wasn't even sure it was going to work, but now that it seems to be going well I'd like to try and maximize whatever yield I can get.

Anyway, thanks to any of those interested and/or with any feedback.
 

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kev junior

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10 days later and I'm worried I may run out of room now. Built a scrog but screwed up the measurements, measure twice cut once, and by the time I got around to trying to rebuild it they exploded and it was too late. I've just been lightly bending the stalk outwards to try and spread them out.

I figure they'll need at least another 3 weeks or 4 weeks of flowering for the buds to fill out. Would it be worth it to introduce another light at this stage to boost the flowering process? I had initially intended this grow to be kind of a checklist item for before the wife and I have kids, so I didn't invest much into it since I wasn't even sure it was going to work, but now that it seems to be going well I'd like to try and maximize whatever yield I can get.

Anyway, thanks to any of those interested and/or with any feedback.
looks good. mine is veggin and I am already getting anxious to turn them.
 

kev junior

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10 days later and I'm worried I may run out of room now. Built a scrog but screwed up the measurements, measure twice cut once, and by the time I got around to trying to rebuild it they exploded and it was too late. I've just been lightly bending the stalk outwards to try and spread them out.

I figure they'll need at least another 3 weeks or 4 weeks of flowering for the buds to fill out. Would it be worth it to introduce another light at this stage to boost the flowering process? I had initially intended this grow to be kind of a checklist item for before the wife and I have kids, so I didn't invest much into it since I wasn't even sure it was going to work, but now that it seems to be going well I'd like to try and maximize whatever yield I can get.

Anyway, thanks to any of those interested and/or with any feedback.
I hear good things in regards to those leds
 

Ghost Dog

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Another update for anybody interested. Had to do some emergency construction, the one plant just kept shooting up like crazy. Gonna have to try and raise the one light. Ended up adding a second light to boost the flowering process, a Mars Hydro 300. Plants are looking great, 51 days from seed, buds everywhere. Should be another 2 to 4 weeks until harvest I'd guess. Let me know what you guys think.
 

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Zspy1985

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u dnt transplant autos....any stress fcks em up
I've transplanted all mine from Rapid Rooters in my hydrodome to 1 gallon smart pots then to a final 5 gallon smart pot. My grow is extremely healthy besides my test plant and the burning my mini heater does when I move it too close to the tent.

Growing in a garage mind you so even more of an amazement that I'm able to grow.

Day 66 from seed
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Currently growing 4 different strains. Heavyweights Fast & Vast and 2 Fast 2 Vast. Also got a Pyramid Anesthesia and 3 Strain Hunters Skunk with a total of 7 plants.
 

gixxa

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Just ordered these fast n vast for first grow and I'm gonna "kiss" the grow...
Question is - will this plant survive just on the basics water and maybe a tiny tiny bit of nutes..? I will have a Mars 300 and mars 96 for a total of 350w true watt for 1 or 2 plants..As I read in the first post the guy thought he needed more nutes for the plant... ??
Surely she can survive on the basics ??? cheers fellas:))
 

kev junior

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Just ordered these fast n vast for first grow and I'm gonna "kiss" the grow...
Question is - will this plant survive just on the basics water and maybe a tiny tiny bit of nutes..? I will have a Mars 300 and mars 96 for a total of 350w true watt for 1 or 2 plants..As I read in the first post the guy thought he needed more nutes for the plant... ??
Surely she can survive on the basics ??? cheers fellas:))
i hear 250 watt is minimum..... always do a little nutes, but wait a month month and a half, as your soil should have enough to rock them babies out... just watch, and don't be shy about a flush when you need it.
 

DblBrryInvestments

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Just ordered these fast n vast for first grow and I'm gonna "kiss" the grow...
Question is - will this plant survive just on the basics water and maybe a tiny tiny bit of nutes..? I will have a Mars 300 and mars 96 for a total of 350w true watt for 1 or 2 plants..As I read in the first post the guy thought he needed more nutes for the plant... ??
Surely she can survive on the basics ??? cheers fellas:))

Autos don't need as many nutes as photos, I"m sure you could get away with using FFOF throughout the grow without having to feed your babies.

I would probably do like a 2/3 of the pot FFOF and top it off with happy frog or roots organic since it isn't as hot as FFOF.
 

Symbolic

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Just ordered these fast n vast for first grow and I'm gonna "kiss" the grow...
Question is - will this plant survive just on the basics water and maybe a tiny tiny bit of nutes..? I will have a Mars 300 and mars 96 for a total of 350w true watt for 1 or 2 plants..As I read in the first post the guy thought he needed more nutes for the plant... ??
Surely she can survive on the basics ??? cheers fellas:))
Its normally recommended feed nutes at 1/4 ur normal photo amount when growing w/ autos
 

DblBrryInvestments

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Its normally recommended feed nutes at 1/4 ur normal photo amount when growing w/ autos

I would agree, it's definitely recommended!

I'm sure an auto would do a better job at "surviving on the basics" than a photo would.

I just grow in amended soils, started with subcools super soil, which was great! But at the price and already having to turn some soil, mine as well start building your base mix. This will be my first year with my own soil from scratch, I just followed a recipe. LC's mix with recipe 1 to be exact, I can't afford to go making my own recipe right now.
 
u cant control the flower time of an auto with photoperiod sorry man autos show sex around 2-3 weeks and preflowers in the 3rd to 4th week its just how she goes and its exactly why you should never buy seeds based on what store says it will yeild becouse if u read the fine print ud see thy have no idea... also iv been at this for a while im on my 1st auto grow tho everything iv read holds tru.. i have grown regular strains for about 5 years now and can tell you 500g isnt gonna happen maybe per meter sq maybe but not in 8-10 weeks maybe like 3 months veg BIG maybe...

on a side note ^^^ the konassure is right max ur nutes out but iv found the key is root feeder im useing humbolt roots my self since i grow organic use that an auto till about week 6 n then lite veg nutes with heavy flower nutes... odviously the term heavy means 5mg per gallon 10mg if u have a strain that can take the abuse
Also if growing in a good soil ad coc0 and perlite and a root food . You will get better growth in the little side roots that shoot off because the addatives will allow more oxygen to your roots if you dont leave it soaked all the time .
 

pilgrim16

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hi, this is my first grow with these autos, I`m planning 16x11ltr Wilma hydro system in 150x150x200 grow tent with 600watt dual spec hps with 6inch filter system. am I being over ambitious thinking they will fit ok?
 

gixxa

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hi, this is my first grow with these autos, I`m planning 16x11ltr Wilma hydro system in 150x150x200 grow tent with 600watt dual spec hps with 6inch filter system. am I being over ambitious thinking they will fit ok?
1.5m X 1.5m X 2m or 5ft X 5ft X 7ft...
Most people use imperial measurements. I'm guessing you are talking about 16 plants in centremetres???
 

chronicals77

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Why is everyone saying these Fast & Vast Auto take 11-13 weeks? They are supposed to be 8 weeks seed to harvest, are they not? A lot of auto's are like 9 weeks. If they are around 12 weeks I may as well just sell the seeds and grow photoperiod. I can grow Heavyweights Money Bush in 10 weeks start to finish. I grow only DWC, has anyone grown these or the 2 Fast 2 Vast in DWC?
 
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