This is gonna get interesting! Militia takes over Ore. federal building after protest.

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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pnwmystery said:
Lol no I said it's impossible to refute it because it's flawed and a logical fallacy where the statement proves the statement illogically. It does refute what you post, but it's too long of a discussion to have here. A lot of rights are created and granted by a government, otherwise you pretty much don't have rights.
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If they are granted by government, then they are by definition privileges.

That doesn't mean that a government statute cannot coincide with a right from time to time, but the right itself does not arise from the actions of government.

Nor can the actions of government render what a right is to meaninglessness, but they CAN and DO keep people from exercising their rights frequently though. Peace.
 
Rob Roy

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OddBall1st said:
If we did it your way the age of consent would drop to like12 or 13, but in a town of 100 and 97 of them agree that the age of consent will be 18yrs. than that`s the way it will be too bad for the other 3.

Think of it like the job of a Skipper on a ship. No matter how you feel, and how you oppose, he`s in charge. Do as he wishes. or swim in the prop wash.
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No, the age of consent would not be an arbitrary fixed number if it were up to me. That presupposes that all people are alike, and they are not. It also presupposes that I possess the right to run another persons life and I don't.

It would be whenever a given individual had achieved the wherewithal to make a consensual choice. That number as you know varies depending upon the INDIVIDUAL.

I'm not a big fan of the Skipper, always fucking with Gilligan. If he'd have had any brains he'd have bumped off Thurston and started boning Mrs. Howell.
 
pnwmystery

pnwmystery

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Rob Roy said:
If they are granted by government, then they are by definition privileges.

That doesn't mean that a government statute cannot coincide with a right from time to time, but the right itself does not arise from the actions of government.

Nor can the actions of government render what a right is to meaninglessness, but they CAN and DO keep people from exercising their rights frequently though. Peace.
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So in regards to the topic and the articles I posted. Looks like the government didn't have to do anything they're turning on each other lol.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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Rob Roy said:
No, the age of consent would not be an arbitrary fixed number if it were up to me. That presupposes that all people are alike, and they are not. It also presupposes that I possess the right to run another persons life and I don't.

It would be whenever a given individual had achieved the wherewithal to make a consensual choice. That number as you know varies depending upon the INDIVIDUAL.

I'm not a big fan of the Skipper, always fucking with Gilligan. If he'd have had any brains he'd have bumped off Thurston and started boning Mrs. Howell.
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To quote Bloodhound Gang, "That episode where Gilligan gets sick of being teased. So he breaks into the professors lab and makes some LSD peace freaks. And eats the skippers brains and beats Ginger with coconuts as Mr Howell and Lovey burn alive inside of their grass hut. He'll kill again that Gilligan they should've let him be and like a postal clerk i'll go berserk if you don't stop teasing me. See, the trick is to pick on those who can't do you no harm. Like the drummer from Def Leppard who's only got one arm."
 
pnwmystery

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Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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I am not far away from where this is happening, and that is just bullshit. I don't think there is much local support, but there is a lot of regional support for this sort of notional "the government is to blame" idiotic pap. I love the Feds as little as anyone, but the Bundy turds are pathetic, "Go back to Nevada, you half-wits," I say.
 
OddBall1st

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Rob Roy said:
No, the age of consent would not be an arbitrary fixed number if it were up to me. That presupposes that all people are alike, and they are not. It also presupposes that I possess the right to run another persons life and I don't.

It would be whenever a given individual had achieved the wherewithal to make a consensual choice. That number as you know varies depending upon the INDIVIDUAL.

I'm not a big fan of the Skipper, always fucking with Gilligan. If he'd have had any brains he'd have bumped off Thurston and started boning Mrs. Howell.
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Dude, maybe you forget you have kids again.

I got rule in my house, try and break it, to both my kids. Then along comes who ? ......same.
 
OddBall1st

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Rob Roy said:
D. none of the above
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That arbitrary fixed number is for dads like me to let up a bit and grant some freedoms.

It`s not a number that needs to go up or down depending on how old a family likes it`s cunt. It`s a number that says if you try to lower it, you`re a pedo, if you do it under it you get arrested as said pedo.

Could go all the way to a gun fight but it`s still gonna get charged, and don`t forget the dad.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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Michael Huntherz said:
I am not far away from where this is happening, and that is just bullshit. I don't think there is much local support, but there is a lot of regional support for this sort of notional "the government is to blame" idiotic pap. I love the Feds as little as anyone, but the Bundy turds are pathetic, "Go back to Nevada, you half-wits," I say.
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The article that I read.

http://news.yahoo.com/burns-oregon-residents-find-unexpected-common-ground-with-bundy-movement-185240014.html#
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
D. none of the above
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Here's a question that could clear up your views on this consent thing.
A young lady who is 13 years of age is told by everyone how mature she is. She takes care of her siblings when her mother is at work, she does her schoolwork properly, she does not bother with the petty idle talk her other classmate indulge in. She has the body of a 21 year old and can look the part with make up.
She meets a man who is 27 years of age. They have sex, in which she ends up pregnant. He is arrested and charged with statuary rape.
Do you think he should be found not guilty because the girl agreed to have sex with him?
 
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