Open Show n' Tell 2016

[TWS]

Yep, we are in a very rural county with very little resources, they have bigger fish to fry...

Thats how all this started. If ca didn't regulate they were gonna stop funding the broke ass state. Now they have to or better stay the hell out.

 

[TWS]

Bro you need to go read all the fine print of the new regulation & all of the rules & regulations of all the oversight agencies that are now involved. Like the FDA & the Dept of Pesticide regulation. The list goes on & on...

I did . As far as the cultivation end goes , grow weed , don't spray bad shit on it and don't piss in the creek.
Gotta go.

 

[doublejj]

I did .

My first reaction was that I would need $15,000 upr front for a lawyer to just read all the regulations & figure it out....and don't forget they will probably "auction" the permits off.....

 

[TWS]

My first reaction was that I would need $15,000 upr front for a lawyer to just read all the regulations & figure it out....and don't forget they will probably "auction" the permits off.....

Not sure about the lawyer. But they won't be auctioning them off . The farms will have it easier than the store fronts or end products like edibles and hash processing and transportation.

 

[doublejj]

Not sure about the lawyer. But they won't be auctioning them off . The farms will have it easier than the store fronts or end products like edibles and hash processing and transportation.

Too much oversight & regulation to want go commercial. as long as they leave medical alone I'm happy, we are in a good county.

 

[doublejj]

I did . As far as the cultivation end goes , grow weed , don't spray bad shit on it and don't piss in the creek.
Gotta go.

you underestimate the Government bro...

 

[doublejj]

Bro you cannot even put a normal septic system in California any more. A legal "Double catch" septic system for our property would cost $45,000+...and that is for human waste only. One for a commercial greenhouse would probably cost twice as much..

 

[treemansbuds]

if they cannot see into the greenhouse they cannot know what is inside. Just owning a greenhouse is not grounds for a code check.

Nothing we have except the well is legal. We would have to pay the fines for building it in the first place & tear it down & rebuild to get a legal permit. A pot legal greenhouse costs $40-$50,000 for a small one......

I'm sure they can roll up on you if no permit for the greenhouses. How can you keep them away if you have a building CODE violations, grading violations?
The two above statements contradict each other.
TMB-

 

[doublejj]

I'm sure they can roll up on you if no permit for the greenhouses. How can you keep them away if you have a building CODE violations, grading violations?
The two above statements contradict each other.
TMB-

I have been to our code enforcement office lol.....I think there are 2 people....we had an appointment with them for the well drilling & they never showed up, they just mailed us a questioner...they will be the least of our worries

 

[doublejj]

I have talked to 4-5 of our neighbors that all have greenhouse & asked if they had permits, they all said no. There are 1000's of greenhouses in this county....and 2 code enforcement officers, you do the math. And like dutiful public employees they would grab the low hanging fruit first & we are way out there, we would here them coming lol

 

[treemansbuds]

I have been to our code enforcement office lol.....I think there are 2 people....we had an appointment with them for the well drilling & they never showed up, they just mailed us a questioner...they will be the least of our worries

I have talked to 4-5 of our neighbors that all have greenhouse & asked if they had permits, they all said no. There are 1000's of greenhouses in this county....and 2 code enforcement officers, you do the math. And like dutiful public employees they would grab the low hanging fruit first & we are way out there, we would here them coming lol

Sounds like you have it all figured out jj. I just don't like leaving a "loop hole' for them to crawl through. It's all been rolling good so far for you guys, wishing you and the crew good luck this season.
TMB-

 

[Aeroknow]

we have a locked gate & big guard dogs.....they are gonna need a warrant...

Right after measure A began being implemented here in Butte county, it took around 24 hrs to get their warrant. It was in the news(chicoER). Within a month, they had it down to a phone call approval right in front of your gate. That same judge had said before though, when measure A had just passed, that he wasn't going to be bothered with it? Wtf gave? Fucking asshole!
Now, thats's outdoor where they can see it by helicopter. They say it is supposed to be complaint driven, but all the deputy in the helicopter has to do, is be the one to complain. Its stupid, and that's why I stopped with my big outdoor spots
Even though lots of heads still pulled off those 200+ pound crops around here, I probably would have been the one to get fucked with if i tried though.

I will totally run with a permit, IF I'll be able to live, or be able to setup shop in a town that hasn't banned it!
This fuckin state! I love it AND hate it.

 

[757growin]

Too much oversight & regulation to want go commercial. as long as they leave medical alone I'm happy, we are in a good county.

I don't think your farm would qualifies for medical, from what I've read the state would consider it commercial.

I have talked to 4-5 of our neighbors that all have greenhouse & asked if they had permits, they all said no. There are 1000's of greenhouses in this county....and 2 code enforcement officers, you do the math. And like dutiful public employees they would grab the low hanging fruit first & we are way out there, we would here them coming lol

All those new fees they are collecting will pay for plenty of enforcement officers. Just gonna take time to hire and train.

 

[ruby fruit]

My fucking head hurts

 

[TWS]

 

[reza92]

My fucking head hurts

Alls I know rubes is if we get caught we fucked

 

[doublejj]

Just having a un-permitted greenhouse on your property is not enough grounds for a search warrant... Do you really think they are going to search every greenhouse they can see?....

 

[doublejj]

Plan A.....buy small rural pieces of land off the grid. Invest only enough into the infrastructure to clear a spot for a greenhouse & well & then rage it 3 crops a year until they swoop. You should be able to pay off everything after the first season.....season 2 is all gravy.
I know farmers with 5-6 of these set-ups and they kill it every year.

 

[doublejj]

For demonstration purpose only.
lets say you buy 20acre parcel like this....

http://goldcountry.craigslist.org/reb/5373776826.html

You would need $20,000 down with the owner financing. Payments should be only a few hundred a month payments. Another $25-$30,000 should get you a well & 30x60 greenhouse. If you have a good year (2-3 crops) it would be easy to pull #200lbs+. Even at cali wholesale pot prices you will have enough to pay off everything..

 

[757growin]

Plan A.....buy small rural pieces of land off the grid. Invest only enough into the infrastructure to clear a spot for a greenhouse & well & then rage it 3 crops a year until they swoop. You should be able to pay off everything after the first season.....season 2 is all gravy.
I know farmers with 5-6 of these set-ups and they kill it every year.

This seems like a good model for 2015. In 2016 I wouldn't recommend that investment to wait to be "swooped" on. I'm not interested in any prison sentences or fines. The state wants it's money and blood, one way or the other. Better off growing indoors where no one sees what your doing.