Vac oven advice?

caveman117

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if your looking for something small for your first id reccommend just buying a pump and chamber and a hotplate that fits under your chamber. that will save you quite a bit of money. it may only heat from the bottom but you can keep releasing vac and flipping the patty.
 

hyroot

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Don't listen to that guy. A chamber and a hot plate are a waste of money. They won't remove shit.


Get an across international vacuum oven. That's the best oven to use.
 

caveman117

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many people use pump, chamber and heatsource methods. itmay not be the absolute best but its a hell of a lot cheaper than 2-10 grand... especially if its his first.
 

hyroot

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many people use pump, chamber and heatsource methods. itmay not be the absolute best but its a hell of a lot cheaper than 2-10 grand... especially if its his first.

It may be cheaper. But in now way will you remove everything with a chamber. It's even difficult to get 0 ppm's with a vac oven. You have to run those for 3 -5 days to remove everything.

If you can't remove everything with a chamber then why use it? That's just stupid logic to use one.

If you want to make bho do it right or don't do it at all. It's that simple.

There's far better and cheaper alternatives to bho. Rosin, ice wax, 99 dry sift
 

R&RHashman

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so if a chamber is at a maintained set temp and is operated at a set vac level then how are you not going to remove everything? a vac oven does exactly that. set temp and vac. the limitation of using a chamber comes from its small size. it limits how much oil you can purge at a single time vs. the vac oven having a much larger area for the oil to spread out to speed up the purge time of larger runs. if you can maintain temp and vac then the performance is the same
 

hyroot

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That's a big IF though.. the vac on the ovens is more powerful. I couldn't even run one at my house because they're so loud.
 

R&RHashman

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umm no the vac is not stronger on a vac oven. you choose your pump based on what you need it to do. so as long as you are able to hit the correct numbers then its the same process. and there are IF's in everything. if you don't do any extract right it will end up bad. maybe not rosin as I have yet to make any of it but you do understand what I am trying to tell you right?

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they also make pumps with muffler attachments to make it quieter
 

Twitch

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I have used the 3cfm on my oven 1.9 it just takes longer to reach max vac I have the 7cfm now, as long as the chamber seals properly. A better question is how often are you going to use it, and what quantities? you can find .9 across internationals on CL for under 800 since the ban on hydrocarbon extracts for unlicensed people in CO not sure what state you are in.

and those muffler things do help alot
 

Bublonichronic

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so if a chamber is at a maintained set temp and is operated at a set vac level then how are you not going to remove everything? a vac oven does exactly that. set temp and vac. the limitation of using a chamber comes from its small size. it limits how much oil you can purge at a single time vs. the vac oven having a much larger area for the oil to spread out to speed up the purge time of larger runs. if you can maintain temp and vac then the performance is the same
Iv made this argument more than once, Some people are just stupid bro...it's like the fool who goes to Starbucks everyday when a expresso Machine" with a frother will produce the same shit if not better since you can use better beans then that Starbucks shyt
 

hyroot

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umm no the vac is not stronger on a vac oven. you choose your pump based on what you need it to do. so as long as you are able to hit the correct numbers then its the same process. and there are IF's in everything. if you don't do any extract right it will end up bad. maybe not rosin as I have yet to make any of it but you do understand what I am trying to tell you right?

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they also make pumps with muffler attachments to make it quieter

You can only use up to specific size vacuum pump on the chambers. Where you can use more powerful vacuums in the ovens.

You can debate all you want. The contaminant lab tests speak for them selves at the extract company I used to work for. When they started out they were doing everything bret maverick does. Then when the funding came in they were able to exceed it. The comparative tests showed the difference.
 

mrpink55

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I have used the 3cfm on my oven 1.9 it just takes longer to reach max vac I have the 7cfm now, as long as the chamber seals properly. A better question is how often are you going to use it, and what quantities? you can find .9 across internationals on CL for under 800 since the ban on hydrocarbon extracts for unlicensed people in CO not sure what state you are in.

and those muffler things do help alot
. I am in CO, teach me how to dougie twitch your pics look great:clap:. That is sound advice, as that law did scare away a lot of folks.
 

mrpink55

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Huh, I did not receive the message sir, not sure why my account is acting up. Small world, I nice work Fadedawg.
 

Fadedawg

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I tried PMing you

@Fadedawg that is the unit he makes
I designed the original Mk III, and helped set up Specialized Formulations and others like Terpp Extractor's to produce and market them, though I've never marketed them myself. This one appears to be a Terpp Extractors unit, so should be sound. A whole lot depends on the details of what else he has included.

I didn't inquire, because its early and I'm not interested, plus eschew exercising brothers unnecessarily, but if someone who is interested will get and post the details, it would make answering how good a deal it is, easier.
 

MikeGanja

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I'm not sure if I understand you correct. Do I need two pumps, one fore the MKIII and another one for the vacc oven / chamber?
 

Fadedawg

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I'm not sure if I understand you correct. Do I need two pumps, one fore the MKIII and another one for the vacc oven / chamber?
A vacuum oven requires a vacuum pump.

A Mk III requires a vacuum pump to evacuate the system before extracting, and a recovery pump to recover the butane after extraction. They are different pump designs.
 
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