Tell me your gpw.

Gpw calculations

  • Per plant

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Entire grow

    Votes: 1 50.0%

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Keighan

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Post some bud\plant pron! Taking a pole on if you judge your gpw by each plant or your overall grow, if posting pics put
1.how you calculate gpw.
2.strain
3.lights
4.medium
Let's see it! I've pulled .7 gpw per plant with 400w of mixed spectrum HID. 250mh self contained and 150w hps self contained. Soil. Blue kush.

Average 1.1 gpw soil with flowering room 1000w hps. (Currently out of commission)
 

kermit2692

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..wellll if you're going gram per watt you don't get a choice it's everything under the wattage lol...50g on a plant under 1000w is only .05 gpw where as if you have six of those under the light that put out fifty you're at .3 gpw big difference for the exact same grow.. Only one way is correct
 

kermit2692

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.. Lmao.. If you pulled .7gpw per plant from under a 400 that would make it the only plant because even adding only one more plant with the same yield puts you at 1.4 gpw under your 400w which is 560 grams and nobody is pulling a pound from 400w especially when only 150 is hps.. and anyone who claims they are is either wrong, lying, or wasting alot more time than its worth to push that extra weight out. Now see why you can't do the math problem like that? So my guess is your 1.1 under the thousand is wrong as well.. What I can't figure out is how you are getting a higher number doing it that way, in order to cone to 1.1 grams of you were doing the math on a per plant basis you would have had to yield 1100 grams per plant lmao.. I'm sorry to say but I think you're blowing hot air.. Or confused, please do explain?!! If I'm just baked right now being stupid feel free to explain that as well lol buuut I'm pretty good at math I really don't think that's the case..
 

Keighan

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The GPW number is bogus - too many factors it doesn't take into account, the biggest being the length of grow.
That's how I've always felt, personally I've seen people pull serious weight off of long ass veg's trees. Just getting other growers opinions.
 

Keighan

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.. Lmao.. If you pulled .7gpw per plant from under a 400 that would make it the only plant because even adding only one more plant with the same yield puts you at 1.4 gpw under your 400w which is 560 grams and nobody is pulling a pound from 400w especially when only 150 is hps.. and anyone who claims they are is either wrong, lying, or wasting alot more time than its worth to push that extra weight out. Now see why you can't do the math problem like that? So my guess is your 1.1 under the thousand is wrong as well.. What I can't figure out is how you are getting a higher number doing it that way, in order to cone to 1.1 grams of you were doing the math on a per plant basis you would have had to yield 1100 grams per plant lmao.. I'm sorry to say but I think you're blowing hot air.. Or confused, please do explain?!! If I'm just baked right now being stupid feel free to explain that as well lol buuut I'm pretty good at math I really don't think that's the case..
No I didn't mean to put per plant, I meant on that entire grow. And the .7 with the 400 was approx 280 g six plants pretty decent size to veg so nope. They were stuffed in a tiny space. Two different lights. Not that hard. J.s. if I was pulling 580 from 400 watts I wouldn't be posting on r.I.u. id be writing books.
 

Alienwidow

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The GPW number is bogus - too many factors it doesn't take into account, the biggest being the length of grow.
I dont think its bogus. Its a measurement. They all have a relevance in some application. my veg is around three months and i use gpw to see if my experimentation has worked or failed. One major test i did was can i pull the same gpw with soil as ive been pulling with soiless. Soil lost bigtime. Gpw measured it. Same veg time. Same container size. Different gpw. It can be used just like g/m2 in its time and place in my opinion.
 

kermit2692

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No I didn't mean to put per plant, I meant on that entire grow. And the .7 with the 400 was approx 280 g six plants pretty decent size to veg so nope. They were stuffed in a tiny space. Two different lights. Not that hard. J.s. if I was pulling 580 from 400 watts I wouldn't be posting on r.I.u. id be writing books.
Hahaha ok that makes alot more sense
 

kermit2692

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I think it's all relative.. If you stay following your gpw you will know if you're improving. If you watch your weight per plant until you have enough data you will again be able to tell if you're improving and in both cases also able to tell if any changes benefit or not.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
I dont think its bogus. Its a measurement. They all have a relevance in some application. my veg is around three months and i use gpw to see if my experimentation has worked or failed. One major test i did was can i pull the same gpw with soil as ive been pulling with soiless. Soil lost bigtime. Gpw measured it. Same veg time. Same container size. Different gpw. It can be used just like g/m2 in its time and place in my opinion.
Granted.
If you're comparing your own grows that used the same environment & veg times then it would be an interesting number that held some mathematical reference.
But for two dudes to compare, having grown differently (+ varying time of veg) is like comparing Apples to Elephants - it's irrelevant and silly.
 

Alienwidow

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Granted.
If you're comparing your own grows that used the same environment & veg times then it would be an interesting number that held some mathematical reference.
But for two dudes to compare, having grown differently (+ varying time of veg) is like comparing Apples to Elephants - it's irrelevant and silly.
ya if theyre having a face off and fighting about its silly. But if your comparing notes on gpw i learned a lot from it in terms of plant numbers, veg time tradeoff for weight, pot sizes, light sizes, led vs hps, soil vs soiless vs hydro, scrog vs sog, co2 use, and nutes in vs return. To me its less like comparing apples to elephants, and more like comparing dags to each other. A good dog is appreciated by almost anyone, but they all have different characteristics and excel in different areas, and although you cant make a chihuahua run the track, you can work with a greyhound to get it up to speed because the potential is there. Thats where i think gpw is important, tweeking that grow by comparing it to others methods and gpw score. It could be strain, grow medium, nutrients, co2, lights, pruneing techniques, whatever, but if the veg times close and the gpw is different theres gonna be a winner. Personally i know i could improve my gpw but it would take way more work so count me out. My style is pretty elementry and i dont plan on changing it anytime soon even if i see some amazing looking grows happening around here, theyre just too much work!
As for my gpw, i usually hit around .6-.9 gpw. That works out to a pound and a half to two pounds a light which i think is very respectable. Promix, 1k de lights, seven gallon pots, six per light, three month veg, co2.
 

dodacky

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grams per kwh used is the only way to measure a growers efficiency. then there will be an argument on wether or not to include ac and fans to that.
 

whitebb2727

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.. Lmao.. If you pulled .7gpw per plant from under a 400 that would make it the only plant because even adding only one more plant with the same yield puts you at 1.4 gpw under your 400w which is 560 grams and nobody is pulling a pound from 400w especially when only 150 is hps.. and anyone who claims they are is either wrong, lying, or wasting alot more time than its worth to push that extra weight out. Now see why you can't do the math problem like that? So my guess is your 1.1 under the thousand is wrong as well.. What I can't figure out is how you are getting a higher number doing it that way, in order to cone to 1.1 grams of you were doing the math on a per plant basis you would have had to yield 1100 grams per plant lmao.. I'm sorry to say but I think you're blowing hot air.. Or confused, please do explain?!! If I'm just baked right now being stupid feel free to explain that as well lol buuut I'm pretty good at math I really don't think that's the case..
I'm shooting for a pound out of 432 watts of t5. You can get a pound out of a 400.
 
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