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bearkat42

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They will not be going back, Democrats want the Muslim vote. Hillary is learning Arabic. We have laws about refugees, and they are being ignored.
Sounds like an intelligent politician. And yes the laws we have concerning refugees are being ignored... By the right.
 

OddBall1st

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Sounds like an intelligent politician. And yes the laws we have concerning refugees are being ignored... By the right.

I would think it would be by the wrong. I don`t speak Politician so when people say left and right and shit, it`s less interesting. Just a bit less.........
 

MuyLocoNC

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How many terrorist attacks were committed by Vietnamese refugees after the Vietnam war? That's 262,000 between 1975-1980

How about Iraqi refugee terrorist attacks after the invasion? 112,000 into the US since 2003
How many Vietnamese were members of ISIS back in the late seventies? How many terrorist attacks have been committed by Vietnamese period?

How many terrorists did ISIS embed with those refugees back in 2003? Oh wait, there was no ISIS back then. I guess things are a little different these days. As in a massive group of terrorists actually telling us they will embed members within the masses of UNVETTABLE poor souls.
 

bearkat42

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How many Vietnamese were members of ISIS back in the late seventies? How many terrorist attacks have been committed by Vietnamese period?

How many terrorists did ISIS embed with those refugees back in 2003? Oh wait, there was no ISIS back then. I guess things are a little different these days. As in a massive group of terrorists actually telling us they will embed members within the masses of UNVETTABLE poor souls.
ISIS was formed in 1999.
 

Padawanbater2

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How many Vietnamese were members of ISIS back in the late seventies? How many terrorist attacks have been committed by Vietnamese period?

How many terrorists did ISIS embed with those refugees back in 2003? Oh wait, there was no ISIS back then. I guess things are a little different these days. As in a massive group of terrorists actually telling us they will embed members within the masses of UNVETTABLE poor souls.
Back in the late 70s it wouldn't have been "OMGZ ISIS!", it would have been "OMGZ VIETCONGZ!!" and you'd be saying the same thing about the Vietnamese refugees you're saying now about the Syrian refugees

Fear has you by the fuckin' balls, man. Holy shit
 

MuyLocoNC

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Back in the late 70s it wouldn't have been "OMGZ ISIS!", it would have been "OMGZ VIETCONGZ!!" and you'd be saying the same thing about the Vietnamese refugees you're saying now about the Syrian refugees

Fear has you by the fuckin' balls, man. Holy shit
I'm sorry, are you afraid to answer the question? How many Vietnamese were members of ISIS back in the late 70's? How many terrorist attacks did Vietnamese terrorists attempt outside their country back in that timeframe? It's really a simple question, give it a try.

And I haven't stated my personal position on the refugees yet.
 

Padawanbater2

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I'm sorry, are you afraid to answer the question? How many Vietnamese were members of ISIS back in the late 70's? How many terrorist attacks did Vietnamese terrorists attempt outside their country back in that timeframe? It's really a simple question, give it a try.

And I haven't stated my personal position on the refugees yet.
Forget Vietnam then, let's go with the second example for some strange reason you chose to exclude - weird..

How many Muslim Iraqi refugees after the invasion - 112,000 into the US since 2003 - have committed terrorism inside the United States?

All Muslims in this example, let's see you sidestep your ass out of this one
 

bearkat42

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The history of the U.S. refugee program demonstrates that the lengthy and extensive vetting that all refugees must undergo is an effective deterrent for terrorists. Since 1980, the U.S. has invited in millions of refugees, including hundreds of thousands from the Middle East. Not one has committed an act of terrorism in the U.S. Traditional law enforcement and security screening processes have a proven record of handling the threat from terrorist posing as refugees.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Forget Vietnam then, let's go with the second example for some strange reason you chose to exclude - weird..

How many Muslim Iraqi refugees after the invasion - 112,000 into the US since 2003 - have committed terrorism inside the United States?

All Muslims in this example, let's see you sidestep your ass out of this one
Not weird, bearcat made a good argument and I acknowledged it.

I don't have those numbers, do you. Is anyone keeping track. I'll take a shot in the dark...11,200. Am I warm?

And all Muslims? Not a single Christain out of 112,000?
 

whitebb2727

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You notice the constant theme with all these guys?

Fear

LittleBen has it, Muyloco has it, NOTGOP, Oddball, etc., they all have it

Even with their gun

Maybe we don't buy into this bullshit because we're not 13 year old girls afraid of our own shadow?
I can't speak for the others.

It is not fear for me. It is common sense and being prepared.

I don't live in fear. On the other hand, I have been robbed at gun point and had someone kick my door in.

Shit happens. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean we live in fairy land were people don't get raped or killed.
 

bearkat42

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I can't speak for the others.

It is not fear for me. It is common sense and being prepared.

I don't live in fear. On the other hand, I have been robbed at gun point and had someone kick my door in.

Shit happens. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean we live in fairy land were people don't get raped or killed.
What exactly does "being prepared" involve?
 

Padawanbater2

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Not weird, bearcat made a good argument and I acknowledged it.

I don't have those numbers, do you. Is anyone keeping track. I'll take a shot in the dark...11,200. Am I warm?

And all Muslims? Not a single Christain out of 112,000?
Zero

So what's the difference between Iraqi refugees fleeing AQ in Iraq and Syrian refugees fleeing ISIS in Syria?

Why are you so afraid of a terrorist being disguised as a Syrian refugee even though not a single one of any of the thousands of other refugees that have entered into the country have attacked America?

I'll tell you why, because you're scared
 

whitebb2727

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What exactly does "being prepared" involve?
I'm not an overboard prepping nut.

I grow my own food and raise beef and chickens. I keep a few days of food and water in the trunk of the car. A small tool box. Blankets and cold weather gear in the winter. A set of snow chains in the winter. Things of that nature.

A common sense approach instead of going through life with my thumb up my ass.

That also includes me being prepared if my family or I get attacked. Its not a fear, its a fact.

You know very well people get robbed, raped, and killed everyday. You also know very well that a person can not rely on the police to protect them every moment of every day.

No fear. Common sense approach on the realities of life.
 

Padawanbater2

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I'm not an overboard prepping nut.

I grow my own food and raise beef and chickens. I keep a few days of food and water in the trunk of the car. A small tool box. Blankets and cold weather gear in the winter. A set of snow chains in the winter. Things of that nature.

A common sense approach instead of going through life with my thumb up my ass.

That also includes me being prepared if my family or I get attacked. Its not a fear, its a fact.

You know very well people get robbed, raped, and killed everyday. You also know very well that a person can not rely on the police to protect them every moment of every day.

No fear. Common sense approach on the realities of life.
Do you think ISIS will attack Americans if any Syrian refugees are let into the country?
 

Padawanbater2

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Anything is possible. I'm not against them coming.

Do I think Isis will attack if refugees are let in? It could happen.

It is very low on my list of concerns in life and not something I worry about.
I feel the same. I'm more concerned with being killed by a cop to be honest

Turning away refugees in need seems completely unamerican to me, especially considering we're the cause of the problem
 

OddBall1st

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Forget Vietnam then, let's go with the second example for some strange reason you chose to exclude - weird..

How many Muslim Iraqi refugees after the invasion - 112,000 into the US since 2003 - have committed terrorism inside the United States?

All Muslims in this example, let's see you sidestep your ass out of this one

The Boston Marathon bombers were refugees and grew up on our system as little boys only to die in a gunfight with plans to hit NY City. We bringded those up just a fine,....didn`t we ? Before they did it, you would have never guessed.
 
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