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Is the NRA right?

The_Herban_Legend

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ricky1lung

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Flaming Pie

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Are you prepared to send your sons and daughters to get boots on the ground to help them in their own country or is that someone else's problem too?

Isis is purportedly a global threat, so all countries should be offering any assistance they can, may it me military, money, supplies, healthcare or a new country to live in safely.
They are a global threat. We have NATO and the UN to determine the appropriate global response.

In the meantime we could focus on sending aid to the refugees who have settled in Egypt and turkey. Help coordinate with those countries to show them support in a time when so many people are asking for assistance in their country.

Special forces and target air strikes on confirmed ISIS bases. Which is what France and Russia are doing.
 

bearkat42

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If you read my post you would see I do not visit or watch fox news.

It will not be good for the refugees to come here. While the majority of people will be cautious, there will be enough fearful crazy people who will let hate take over.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3324786/Death-threats-attacks-vandalized-mosques-Muslims-U-S-facing-viscious-backlash-Paris-attacks.html
So just let the idiots win? Where would black folk be in America right now if the idiots had been allowed to win?
 

Flaming Pie

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Being a part of the solution is far better than being part of the problem.
I am just pointing out that sending a large group of non English speaking people who do not know our laws will lead to a bunch of the nuts in the US to go all vigilante justice and make things worse between the US and the Muslim community.
 

Flaming Pie

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There is no simple solution to this problem. I wish there was but every option is going to have to be carefully examined.

I don't think it is going to be handled well at all.
 

Flaming Pie

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I'm down with that.

Welcoming those who need help will go much further to restore a relationship than closing borders and simply bombing their home country.
True. I would love to discuss this with you in greater depth. My daughter is being a little whirlwind of destruction right now and needs my full attention.

If you want to have a nice back and forth on the issues you could always send me a pm and I could respond to it when she is down for a nap.
 

UncleBuck

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I am just pointing out that sending a large group of non English speaking people who do not know our laws will lead to a bunch of the nuts in the US to go all vigilante justice and make things worse between the US and the Muslim community.
yeah, we should promote better relations with muslims by treating them like terrorists.

fucking genius republicans.
 

Flaming Pie

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yeah, we should promote better relations with muslims by treating them like terrorists.

fucking genius republicans.
No.

I am saying that trigger happy crazies or raging testosterone males might pull some stupid shit.

They have already been harassing the American Muslims. You can find more if you Google it.

http://abc7ny.com/news/shots-fired-at-ct-mosque-hours-after-paris-attacks-as-muslims-face-backlash/1089771/

Completely unacceptable.

Quit making this about republican vs democrat. You don't see me doing that bs. You keep creating drama where there needn't be drama.

There is simply no way to stop people from attempting homicide. You can only hope to catch them before they do something.

Is is took down a Russian airliner with a tiny little soda can explosive.

I was just looking up Russian homicides earlier in this thread and found that Russia has half the population of the United States but twice the homicides and they have waaaay less guns than us.

Then you have countries in Europe that have right gun control and low gun deaths but Paris could of benefited from at the very least of having armed officers.

This is all worth discussing and debating but everywhere you go you manage to stoop to the lowest level.
 

UncleBuck

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I am saying that trigger happy crazies or raging testosterone males might pull some stupid shit....Completely unacceptable.
so then why are you saying we should cater to the racist idiots at the expense of the refugee families?

that's like saying we should not have passed civil rights because it might make some racist angry and he would spit in a black customer's food (a view articulated by nodrama, ginwilly, desert dude, and other racists here, LOL).

Paris could of benefited from at the very least of having armed officers.
france became very militarized after the charlie hebdo attacks. do you even bother checking basic facts before you spurt this stuff out?

seriously.
 

MuyLocoNC

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No.

I am saying that trigger happy crazies or raging testosterone males might pull some stupid shit.

They have already been harassing the American Muslims. You can find more if you Google it.

http://abc7ny.com/news/shots-fired-at-ct-mosque-hours-after-paris-attacks-as-muslims-face-backlash/1089771/

Completely unacceptable.

Quit making this about republican vs democrat. You don't see me doing that bs. You keep creating drama where there needn't be drama.

There is simply no way to stop people from attempting homicide. You can only hope to catch them before they do something.

Is is took down a Russian airliner with a tiny little soda can explosive.

I was just looking up Russian homicides earlier in this thread and found that Russia has half the population of the United States but twice the homicides and they have waaaay less guns than us.

Then you have countries in Europe that have right gun control and low gun deaths but Paris could of benefited from at the very least of having armed officers.

This is all worth discussing and debating but everywhere you go you manage to stoop to the lowest level.
Just released Bloomberg poll has 64% of Americans against letting Muslim refugees in country. Breaks down to 53% don't want any refugees admitted and 11% only want Christian refugees admitted.

Wow, 64% is no small majority. Even 36% of Democrats say NO refugees should be admitted.

I'm just curious, when did supporting and aiding refugees (not political) of wars, require flying them across the planet and settling them within our borders? Since they're only fleeing the war, shouldn't they be settled nearby to make it easier for them to return the instant the war is over? It's not like they're to be granted permanent residence...or are they?
 

UncleBuck

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Just released Bloomberg poll has 64% of Americans against letting Muslim refugees in country. Breaks down to 53% don't want any refugees admitted and 11% only want Christian refugees admitted.

Wow, 64% is no small majority. Even 36% of Democrats say NO refugees should be admitted.

I'm just curious, when did supporting and aiding refugees (not political) of wars, require flying them across the planet and settling them within our borders? Since they're only fleeing the war, shouldn't they be settled nearby to make it easier for them to return the instant the war is over? It's not like they're to be granted permanent residence...or are they?
it's too bad for you that the president gets to decide, not a bunch of racist xenophobic losers with KKK ideology like yourself.
 

OddBall1st

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Just released Bloomberg poll has 64% of Americans against letting Muslim refugees in country. Breaks down to 53% don't want any refugees admitted and 11% only want Christian refugees admitted.

Wow, 64% is no small majority. Even 36% of Democrats say NO refugees should be admitted.

I'm just curious, when did supporting and aiding refugees (not political) of wars, require flying them across the planet and settling them within our borders? Since they're only fleeing the war, shouldn't they be settled nearby to make it easier for them to return the instant the war is over? It's not like they're to be granted permanent residence...or are they?

They will not be going back, Democrats want the Muslim vote. Hillary is learning Arabic. We have laws about refugees, and they are being ignored.
 

Padawanbater2

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How many terrorist attacks were committed by Vietnamese refugees after the Vietnam war? That's 262,000 between 1975-1980

How about Iraqi refugee terrorist attacks after the invasion? 112,000 into the US since 2003
 
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