OnSolomonsGrave
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cause government propaganda has never been heard of. :: cough :: msnbc ::cough::
I'm voting for McCain....
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tipsgnob
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friends of johnny mc cain and the navy...???
OnSolomonsGrave
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no tigs CC can copy paste things, it makes her informed.
ccodiane
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Helms: Compromise, hell! Stiff Right Jab
Stiff Right Jab Quote of the Day, Jesse Helms on Compromise
Compromise, hell! Thats what has happened to us all down the lineand thats the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?
Jesse Helms, 1959 editorial
Stiff Right Jab Quote of the Day, Jesse Helms on Compromise
Compromise, hell! Thats what has happened to us all down the lineand thats the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?
Jesse Helms, 1959 editorial
tipsgnob
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that's too much like work and if people really care they will look it up themselves...this is rollitup...not lookitup...
ccodiane
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http://stiffrightjab.com/
Caruba: There is NO Third Bush Term
Excerpt from-
Between now and November 4 you are going to hear over and over again the phrase “the Bush third term.” Let’s understand something. George W. Bush is not running for a third term. He is prohibited by the Twenty-Second Amendment to the Constitution which says, “No person shall be elected to the office of President more than twice…”
The phrase, “the Bush third term”, bespeaks how utterly insane the very existence of George W. Bush has driven Democrats and their fellow travelers. In their hearts, they want to campaign against George W. Bush who twice defeated their pusillanimous candidates, Al Gore and John Kerry, two of the greatest blowhards to have ever trod the campaign trail.
In both cases, unable to cope with the final vote tally, the Democrats cried out that the election had been “stolen” from them as if to say that the voters had been too stupid to grasp the merits of their choices or too lazy to have come out in sufficient numbers. How could it be that a Republican and theoretical conservative had been elected?
Caruba: There is NO Third Bush Term
Excerpt from-
Between now and November 4 you are going to hear over and over again the phrase “the Bush third term.” Let’s understand something. George W. Bush is not running for a third term. He is prohibited by the Twenty-Second Amendment to the Constitution which says, “No person shall be elected to the office of President more than twice…”
The phrase, “the Bush third term”, bespeaks how utterly insane the very existence of George W. Bush has driven Democrats and their fellow travelers. In their hearts, they want to campaign against George W. Bush who twice defeated their pusillanimous candidates, Al Gore and John Kerry, two of the greatest blowhards to have ever trod the campaign trail.
In both cases, unable to cope with the final vote tally, the Democrats cried out that the election had been “stolen” from them as if to say that the voters had been too stupid to grasp the merits of their choices or too lazy to have come out in sufficient numbers. How could it be that a Republican and theoretical conservative had been elected?
323cheezy
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At least you have your reasons....im not saying everyone thats old is racist....but truth is old white voters dont trust the guy....and think hes al queda or something....What you think obamas gonna take all your money and give it to hispanic and black mothers??? The truth is alot of taxes you pay dont just go to welfare cases.....they go to politicians, space programs, war, education, rodes, etc.....even poor, average, to lower class people have to pay taxes...while big corporations get tax breaks.....the way government works is we pay taxes, and in return the gov uses that money to make our lifes better(spend our money wisely).... you think all your money goes to welfare cases....think again....its the lower and midddle class people who make our economy function...while the rich make out like bandits on the sweat of their labor.....obama is for the working class and understands injustice...dont get confused hes not gonna take your life saving(2dollars)...he wants to take more taxes from the wealthy, corporations, and oligarchs....Mccain is for cutting the wealthiest taxes....and no body wants any of your measily tax dollars anyway....we want exon mobils 12 bilion dollar quarterly profits to pay for health care, education, and programs that create a better future..... obama 09
Leilani Garden
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It's tough, I realize, to read comments and comprehend metaphors, analogies, and things like that, esp when one has such a difficult time with the written word in the first place.
The "Bush Third Term" does not mean that your political opponents are so benighted as to believe that Mr. Bush will once again be our president, silly.
I'd explain it to you, but it would be pointless. You have proven yourself incapable of original thought and critical thinking skills. And that, I would guess, is the reason for the snippet out of a right-wing opinion that you have posted.
Geeze.
(Next, I know, here it comes: the personal insults. I'm just terrified of what Diane might say to me or about me. Such a tongue, that one, eh?)
Oh, did that editorial say that the last two Democratic candidates were blowhards? LMAO I know of a blowhard right here.
The "Bush Third Term" does not mean that your political opponents are so benighted as to believe that Mr. Bush will once again be our president, silly.
I'd explain it to you, but it would be pointless. You have proven yourself incapable of original thought and critical thinking skills. And that, I would guess, is the reason for the snippet out of a right-wing opinion that you have posted.
Geeze.
(Next, I know, here it comes: the personal insults. I'm just terrified of what Diane might say to me or about me. Such a tongue, that one, eh?)
Oh, did that editorial say that the last two Democratic candidates were blowhards? LMAO I know of a blowhard right here.
Leilani Garden
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At least you have your reasons....im not saying everyone thats old is racist....but truth is old white voters dont trust the guy....and think hes al queda or something....What you think obamas gonna take all your money and give it to hispanic and black mothers??? The truth is alot of taxes you pay dont just go to welfare cases.....they go to politicians, space programs, war, education, rodes, etc.....even poor, average, to lower class people have to pay taxes...while big corporations get tax breaks.....the way government works is we pay taxes, and in return the gov uses that money to make our lifes better(spend our money wisely).... you think all your money goes to welfare cases....think again....its the lower and midddle class people who make our economy function...while the rich make out like bandits on the sweat of their labor.....obama is for the working class and understands injustice...dont get confused hes not gonna take your life saving(2dollars)...he wants to take more taxes from the wealthy, corporations, and oligarchs....Mccain is for cutting the wealthiest taxes....and no body wants any of your measily tax dollars anyway....we want exon mobils 12 bilion dollar quarterly profits to pay for health care, education, and programs that create a better future..... obama 09
Right on.
One point I'd like to respectfully disagree with, however. THe "welfare queen" is thing of the past. The term was coined by the Reagan people who used it to great advantage in their rhetoric and campaigning. However, it was not until the Clinton administration, along with a Republican congress that "welfare reform" was enacted. It just about impossible for anyone to stay on public assistance for an entire life, or even a long time. All states except Michigan and Vermont now have strict time limits about how long someone can continue to receive aid; and even those two states have enacted reforms of their own.
That so many republicans and right-wing people are still so "worried" about their money being given away to "welfare queens" is testament to how uninformed they are, and how pervasive is the republican-neo/con message. It's pitiful that anyone from the lower socioeconomic realm, and even the middle class, to so fear this mythological welfare queen, when Wal Mart is probably the most egregious welfare queen of all.
Cutting taxes always sounds good. NO ONE likes to pay taxes. They are, unfortunately, a reality that we have to live with. What I'd like to see is all the lobbyists kicked out of Washington--no more campaign contributions from those with clout. That's it, just get them the hell out, and maybe, just maybe, we might see our tax dollars spent for the good of the people, rather than on all this pork we've seen, esp in this current administration. The waste in Washington of OUR taxes is absolutely despicable. Someone here mentioned bridges way, way back there. How is it that we've got bridges on the verge of falling down, but no money to pay off the incredible debts we've built up, and yet? A republican senator was able to tack on a $50 million bridge to NOWHERE in Alaska?
Taxes are a reality. Those at the top enjoy all that this country as to offer more so than those in the lower brackets; therefore, more of the burden should be shifted to them. Taxes suck, I think we can all agree on that, but those are the folks who can better afford them.
Right on.
One point I'd like to respectfully disagree with, however. THe "welfare queen" is thing of the past. The term was coined by the Reagan people who used it to great advantage in their rhetoric and campaigning. However, it was not until the Clinton administration, along with a Republican congress that "welfare reform" was enacted. It just about impossible for anyone to stay on public assistance for an entire life, or even a long time. All states except Michigan and Vermont now have strict time limits about how long someone can continue to receive aid; and even those two states have enacted reforms of their own.
That so many republicans and right-wing people are still so "worried" about their money being given away to "welfare queens" is testament to how uninformed they are, and how pervasive is the republican-neo/con message. It's pitiful that anyone from the lower socioeconomic realm, and even the middle class, to so fear this mythological welfare queen, when Wal Mart is probably the most egregious welfare queen of all.
Cutting taxes always sounds good. NO ONE likes to pay taxes. They are, unfortunately, a reality that we have to live with. What I'd like to see is all the lobbyists kicked out of Washington--no more campaign contributions from those with clout. That's it, just get them the hell out, and maybe, just maybe, we might see our tax dollars spent for the good of the people, rather than on all this pork we've seen, esp in this current administration. The waste in Washington of OUR taxes is absolutely despicable. Someone here mentioned bridges way, way back there. How is it that we've got bridges on the verge of falling down, but no money to pay off the incredible debts we've built up, and yet? A republican senator was able to tack on a $50 million bridge to NOWHERE in Alaska?
Taxes are a reality. Those at the top enjoy all that this country as to offer more so than those in the lower brackets; therefore, more of the burden should be shifted to them. Taxes suck, I think we can all agree on that, but those are the folks who can better afford them.
jamiemichelle
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Lmao... stereotyping yourself aint cha?
Actually, I was really for Obama and he was getting my vote... UNTIL...
I started doing a research paper on the Akaka Bill, which has been trying to get passed since 1999. If passed, this Bill is going to let ANYONE with ONE DROP of Hawaiian Ancestory be independent from the US government, but still will be recieving funding (that we pay for) and will be being supported by the US (more money WE have to pay.) They also will not have to follow any laws or pay any taxes (more money)...I cant go to much in detail or Id be typing all day, but Obama supports this bill and has made statements that he wants the bill to pass. If passed it will be a race ran government.
Do your research, he doesnt know wtf he is doing.
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/bigfiles40/AkakaNationalSummary.html
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/bigfiles40/AkakaTestimonyConklin050307.html
Neither candidates are perfect, but choosing Obama could really harm us more than help.
Heres the link with proof that Obama is gonna support it : http://www.oha.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=540&Itemid=224
blazin waffles
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Lmao... stereotyping yourself aint cha?
Actually, I was really for Obama and he was getting my vote... UNTIL...
I started doing a research paper on the Akaka Bill, which has been trying to get passed since 1999. If passed, this Bill is going to let ANYONE with ONE DROP of Hawaiian Ancestory be independent from the US government, but still will be recieving funding (that we pay for) and will be being supported by the US (more money WE have to pay.) They also will not have to follow any laws or pay any taxes (more money)...I cant go to much in detail or Id be typing all day, but Obama supports this bill and has made statements that he wants the bill to pass. If passed it will be a race ran government.
Do your research, he doesnt know wtf he is doing.
WHY ALL AMERICA SHOULD OPPOSE THE HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION BILL, ALSO KNOWN AS THE AKAKA BILL, S.310 and H.R.505
Neither candidates are perfect, but choosing Obama could really harm us more than help.
Heres the link with proof that Obama is gonna support it : Office of Hawaiian Affairs - Obama supports Akaka Bill
You mean like paying the Native Americans that we displaced when we took there lands???
We stole Hawaii from them. We had some people come over and grow some shit then next thing you know military comes over and there is a "Cout de Taut" (sorry if i spelt wrong) We imprisoned the queen and the only reason why she agreed to anything is b/c she was in prison......and she even said she agreed under protest.
~~TLB
323cheezy
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Great analysis of the "welfare queen"....I hear alot of righty people that arent as educated ,on the reality, mention this everytime... "I dont want all my money going to babymamas and broke people who dont want to work"....I dont want my money to go to to em either...however sometimes life throws you a curb ball....or doesnt give you a fair hand.... lets be real here, not everyone is as fortunate....it sucks that some people cant afford to eat, to pay the rent, or buy gas to drive...Obama isnt gonna take all the middle classes money.... i think hes gonna tax the Ceo's, the dirty politicians,big corporations, top 1 %....lets just hope he put these tax dollars in the right hands.....im aware that the gov is ran by the corporations...and their the ones who invest in us...and control how the money is allocated...So if obama can do something to change this, hes got my vote....im not saying that hes gona change washington in 4 years...
jamiemichelle
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Its all about being responsible and owning up for your own actions... I got prego at 18, never once used financial aid, any type of assistance... I got my ass up and went to college and got a job. I walked, instead of drove, I ate nothing if I had to, to make sure my baby was fed... Now 10 years later, we are financially set and I have almost everything on my own. Without any free handouts from anyone.
There is no excuse to being lazy or not taking responsibility for your decisions.
jamiemichelle
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That is where you are wrong... Do some research... Hawaii hasnt had a race ran government since 1810-1816 when Kamehameha I was king. I lived there for 13+ years and have ancestors going back for 4 generations. Hawaii has been a multiculteral ran government since the 1800's.You mean like paying the Native Americans that we displaced when we took there lands???
We stole Hawaii from them. We had some people come over and grow some shit then next thing you know military comes over and there is a "Cout de Taut" (sorry if i spelt wrong) We imprisoned the queen and the only reason why she agreed to anything is b/c she was in prison......and she even said she agreed under protest.
323cheezy
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Im not stereotyping ....Ive talked to people....I seen alot of my older white friends and older people in general take the same position against obama... Theres alot of propaganda out now....after all was said and done, it turned into a race election....now its un american to like like obama.... theyve demonized him....and most people are afraid ...cause hes black...and whats wrong with the hawaiian propositon...what do you hate hawaiins or something....who cares if the get a tax break.....Lmao... stereotyping yourself aint cha?
Actually, I was really for Obama and he was getting my vote... UNTIL...
I started doing a research paper on the Akaka Bill, which has been trying to get passed since 1999. If passed, this Bill is going to let ANYONE with ONE DROP of Hawaiian Ancestory be independent from the US government, but still will be recieving funding (that we pay for) and will be being supported by the US (more money WE have to pay.) They also will not have to follow any laws or pay any taxes (more money)...I cant go to much in detail or Id be typing all day, but Obama supports this bill and has made statements that he wants the bill to pass. If passed it will be a race ran government.
Do your research, he doesnt know wtf he is doing.
WHY ALL AMERICA SHOULD OPPOSE THE HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION BILL, ALSO KNOWN AS THE AKAKA BILL, S.310 and H.R.505
Neither candidates are perfect, but choosing Obama could really harm us more than help.
Heres the link with proof that Obama is gonna support it : Office of Hawaiian Affairs - Obama supports Akaka Bill
jamiemichelle
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Queen Lilioukalani was not the only Hawaiian member that had say about the government, other members signed Hawaii right on over and were proud to become a part of the United States.
The US made an apology in 1993 saying that they took Hawaii away, but after research are trying to find a way to fix what they said.
There are over 150 bills helping the Hawaiians become more prominant. There is no reason to pass that bill. And Hawaiians are hardly like the indian tribes. As I said, do your research before you assume.
The US made an apology in 1993 saying that they took Hawaii away, but after research are trying to find a way to fix what they said.
There are over 150 bills helping the Hawaiians become more prominant. There is no reason to pass that bill. And Hawaiians are hardly like the indian tribes. As I said, do your research before you assume.