Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect

Blue brother

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Never heard of it like the idea of a complete nutrient for soil, hydro and coco, if only the rest would follow but I doubt it.
Nah bro we're forever gonna be sifting through the shite when it comes to nutrients, that's y I like chiming in here every now and then, this place has been good to me over the years, might Aswell recycle the knowledge I gleaned from here.
 

Dumme

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Because I have tried many others on the market over the last 10 years and ALL were tight pH stable thus AN is ALL hype.
That's like saying my car is just like a jaguar because they both have engines and go broom broom.. I don't get it, man, if you've never tried it...
 

budman111

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That's like saying my car is just like a jaguar because they both have engines and go broom broom.. I don't get it, man, if you've never tried it...
Comparing sports cars to nutrients is fucking ludicrous and only fucktards do this -
 

Dumme

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Commenting negatively on something you've never used sounds a little more ludicrous, and only ignoramus fucktards do this -
 

ElfoodStampo

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I used AN for a brief time and hated it. It was like an alchemy class. It was because of AN that I figured out that its all a big joke. So for that I guess I'm grateful and I paid my tuition to the college of life. Seriously though fuck Advanced Nutrients. Get a single or 2 part with trace elements and the plant will love you. To those who use AN, Big mike says thanks for picking up the tab on the hookers last weekend.
 

TheChemist77

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is there another 1 part nute for grow and bloom like general hydroponics maxi series that works as well and is cheaper??
ive run many different nutrients and always had best results with gh maxi or nova series,, i had really good runs with a few different 3 part nutes too, but after changing the ratio's a bit to suit the strains needs..the dosage listed on the bottles is never ideal, but with some tinkering most get the job done.. after years of testing my largest and most potent yields wer with gh maxi or nova..pluss the ease of use is a plus and ph is nearly perfect every time..
just wondering if anybody knows of other 1 part nutes that work and may be cheaper??? though maxi is really cheap already..
 

since1991

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Cns 17 is prolly the best bang for buck liquid nute that is complete. 25$ out the door per gallon at my local shop. 2 to 3 tspns per gallon gives up 1.2 to 1.5 EC (600 to 750 parts per million of tds). Nice levels of calcium and mag sulphate too. I use it everynow and again in place of Ionic or Dyna. Sometimes even mid cycle when i run out of the brand the crop started on. Long as i go by decent Ec numbers for coir (1.2-1.6) and keep pH between 5.7-6.1 every cultivar with its unique expressions with every major brand of full profile base nute, whether 1, 2, or 3 part performs the same for me. Little subtleties are almost always placebo effect. The mind under influence plays tricks especially on weird dope growers and i have to constantly remind myself of that.
 
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since1991

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Lol my water is around 200ppm quite hard. View attachment 3543407 I use cash crop shiva a+b it's really good, made the switch from canna and haven't looked back. It's designed with sterile systems in mind and has the lowest amount of bio Chems available, it's pretty much fully synthetic. I use this all the way through, it's designed that way. Depending on the strain I add pk13/14 at half to full strength starting between the weeks of 3-7 and right up until flush. I couldn't b arsed buying all these mad products it's just unjustifiable coz all they ever seem to do is fuck with ratios and make the rootZone harder to manage. In the future when I retire and have a lot more time I will go with dry base elements n mix my own.
200Ppm of starting tap is NOT that hard in my opinion. Esp. if its all calcium and magnesium carbonate which it prolly is.
 

since1991

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My tap water is always really soft around 18 ppm, what is yours? you may have lots of junk in your water supply causing the issue (calcium supplement is a must especially with my LED), I use Europonic A+B Base and is a complete diet which is made by Growth Technology who also make Ionic so is probably much the same ingredients, I don't even bother with Bloom as it is a rip off market and so I use Grow all the way until harvest (no flush and no yellow leaves), I give a PK at half dosage from week one of flower as the grow nutes has not enough Phosphorous/Potassium to support a flowering plant and I get the same results as I got when I was blindfolded about the bloom scam years ago.

I see thag Europonic is back in the u.s.a. now (HDI). That nute was around years ago at Superior Growers Supply. Alot of growers grew alot of dope with that brand. Iam gonna have to pick up a set and give her a run again. I assume its still like Ionic but more concentrated as its a 2 part grow and 2 part bloom. I was actually quite bummed back in the day when they stopped making it here in Mich. But Ionic kinda took off and that was it.
 

Blue brother

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200Ppm of starting tap is NOT that hard in my opinion. Esp. if its all calcium and magnesium carbonate which it prolly is.
200 @5 conversion, it's "slightly hard" on our local water suppliers website. It's all I've ever used so dont really have anything to compare it to other than ro which I don't use anyways.
 

since1991

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If your tap is 200 ppm you probably wouldn't need reverse osmosis filtration. Especially for a mediums based hydroponic system such as coco coir.
 

Blue brother

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Yeah like I says I don't use it, have done in the past for brewing ewc tea but not anymore, my water has chloramine in it
 

since1991

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Lol my water is around 200ppm quite hard. View attachment 3543407 I use cash crop shiva a+b it's really good, made the switch from canna and haven't looked back. It's designed with sterile systems in mind and has the lowest amount of bio Chems available, it's pretty much fully synthetic. I use this all the way through, it's designed that way. Depending on the strain I add pk13/14 at half to full strength starting between the weeks of 3-7 and right up until flush. I couldn't b arsed buying all these mad products it's just unjustifiable coz all they ever seem to do is fuck with ratios and make the rootZone harder to manage. In the future when I retire and have a lot more time I will go with dry base elements n mix my own.
200 ppm (500 scale is not that hard). Great for coco coir. Add aminos and humic acid and the plant can take in them carbonates in your tap alot more.
 
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