rollyouron
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You do the research and find out all you need is Dyna Foliage Pro
Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect
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budman111
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In Scotland we call them Neds - Non Educated Delinquents.
Blue brother
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FILM!!!
rollyouron
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BTW I've used the whole lineup from AN. It is wonderful, but does know better than FP. I'm running Jacks hydro 6-4-17 and it seems to work very well! Do what works for you.
ZaraBeth420
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Chuck, I respect your opinion, because I've learned valuable things from reading some of your threads and posts. But I must call "bullshit" on your post here.
I use and love AN. And I'm no newbie, nor am I a poser, as is evidenced by the fact that my AN grows are yielding really good weights of bud that's getting me really high every night. Especially the "hash" version.
I agree that AN overly pushes their seemingly endless line of bullshit additives. But their PH Perfect base nutes work well, with no pH adjustments. That's an advancement, kinda like indoor plumbing and the internet.
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Enigmatic Ways
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I respect that
Enigmatic Ways
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Lol....Obviously your a joke, on to the next one.
chuck estevez
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That's my point exactly, It's for people who don't understand how ph works in their medium. so they make a "nutrient for dummies" just like the books for people that don't know stuff.
Blue brother
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The ph perfect nutrients fill a gap in the market, they've made a product for people who can't be bothered to mess on adjusting ph. I've got a few friends who would've never gone hydro if it wasn't for this stuff and now they're pulling decent harvests in rockwool and fytocell. Before this they would only use soil and soil nutrients, I advised them to read up on beneficial bacteria while they were growing in soil, I even had them knock up a few of their own teas so they got a better understanding of what was going on in the rootZone. Then when they were ready they got the AN base line. The best thing was they were allready making their own teas so they didn't need to buy even more expensive products and "magic potions". Personally I wouldn't use it, but that's just because I like having total control over my rootzone and solution, I'm at a point now where All I want is sterile sterile sterile lol and AN is not that, but it does something no other nutrient lines do, it does away with the need to adjust ph. And u can take that to the bank, it really doesn't matter what ph the solution is (within reason), it shouldn't be called ph perfect, it should be called ph irrelevant.
Dumme
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That not necessarily true. I had about 300 plants running on ~27 gals or so using micro/grow/bloom pH perfect. The pH had to be adjusted a few times a week as water was added. It's an extreme circumstance but you get the idea.
budman111
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pH 'perfect' is all hype, I have never used a pH perfect and never pH my water and NEVER had ANY pH problems. AN Hype as usual.
Blue brother
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Yeah I can understand the need to re balance the ph after doing an add back, do you just add plain water or do you add half/quarter strength nuteient solution, I can imagine doing the latter would reduce the need to re balance ph. Using a bigger res would definitely help but it's wether you can afford the extra space one takes up, I usually use 5-10 times the pot volume as a res when recirculating and if I'm honest I just monitor ph and rarely ever have to rebalance it. The guys I mentioned in my post do add backs with quarter and half strength nutes and over the course of a fortnight don't rebalance. They literally don't even use ph meters.
Blue brother
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In hydro?
budman111
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Yep, NFT.
Blue brother
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What nutes u use? It could be that Ur nutes r putting you around the 6 mark with just tap water. I've seen a plant that had been fed with ph7 nutrinet solution for a week and it wasn't pretty, major lock out. With my nutes added my ph 7.4 city water puts me at around 6.8. This varies as I change the strength or add pk13/14 but it's never at a point where it's suitable for my plants without adjusting. I'd be interested to hear about your feeding schedule and city water cos that is awesome bro!
budman111
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My tap water is always really soft around 18 ppm, what is yours? you may have lots of junk in your water supply causing the issue (calcium supplement is a must especially with my LED), I use Europonic A+B Base and is a complete diet which is made by Growth Technology who also make Ionic so is probably much the same ingredients, I don't even bother with Bloom as it is a rip off market and so I use Grow all the way until harvest (no flush and no yellow leaves), I give a PK at half dosage from week one of flower as the grow nutes has not enough Phosphorous/Potassium to support a flowering plant and I get the same results as I got when I was blindfolded about the bloom scam years ago.
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TheChemist77
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i spent a few years running side by side testing of base nute line ups in 2 4x4 f&d tables w rockwool.. the reg 3 part advanced was not in the top 5 even.. gh maxi, nova, 3 part, plant life 3 part, fox farm, and more produced far better results.. recently i tried the ph perfect and it worked well, way better than the reg 3 part by an..not the best, but not the worst..it may be the answer for newbees..
but if you know what your doing and your point is to get the best quality weed, and best yield per cost of nutrients.. gh maxi grows great weed and large yields w a very low price tag.. in hydro, in rock wool, or grow rocks,, it just works.. for people who make their own teas, or aquaponics, there is NO comparison,, its apples to oranges.. as far as store bought nutrients go maxi is king or was king,, i did testing back in 2003-2006 since then there are many new nutes i havnt tested that may be great idk..i no longer have the time or money to continue testing but once in awile i try something new as i did with the ph parfect,, but im back to gh maxi and nova,, for me , in my water, they work best and im very happy with end results and ease of use...
we are all growers and stick with what we like,, this debate could go on and on with nobody changing their line up.. if you are happy with your grows, stick with what u like... i mean isnt the point of growing just doing what we love and enjoy?? i respect other growers and what ever they use to grow,, its just your preference and opinions.. grow well and be well to all growers,,lets learn from one another, respect each other, let growers unite, not fight!!!
but if you know what your doing and your point is to get the best quality weed, and best yield per cost of nutrients.. gh maxi grows great weed and large yields w a very low price tag.. in hydro, in rock wool, or grow rocks,, it just works.. for people who make their own teas, or aquaponics, there is NO comparison,, its apples to oranges.. as far as store bought nutrients go maxi is king or was king,, i did testing back in 2003-2006 since then there are many new nutes i havnt tested that may be great idk..i no longer have the time or money to continue testing but once in awile i try something new as i did with the ph parfect,, but im back to gh maxi and nova,, for me , in my water, they work best and im very happy with end results and ease of use...
we are all growers and stick with what we like,, this debate could go on and on with nobody changing their line up.. if you are happy with your grows, stick with what u like... i mean isnt the point of growing just doing what we love and enjoy?? i respect other growers and what ever they use to grow,, its just your preference and opinions.. grow well and be well to all growers,,lets learn from one another, respect each other, let growers unite, not fight!!!
Blue brother
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Lol my water is around 200ppm quite hard. 
I use cash crop shiva a+b it's really good, made the switch from canna and haven't looked back. It's designed with sterile systems in mind and has the lowest amount of bio Chems available, it's pretty much fully synthetic. I use this all the way through, it's designed that way. Depending on the strain I add pk13/14 at half to full strength starting between the weeks of 3-7 and right up until flush. I couldn't b arsed buying all these mad products it's just unjustifiable coz all they ever seem to do is fuck with ratios and make the rootZone harder to manage. In the future when I retire and have a lot more time I will go with dry base elements n mix my own.
I use cash crop shiva a+b it's really good, made the switch from canna and haven't looked back. It's designed with sterile systems in mind and has the lowest amount of bio Chems available, it's pretty much fully synthetic. I use this all the way through, it's designed that way. Depending on the strain I add pk13/14 at half to full strength starting between the weeks of 3-7 and right up until flush. I couldn't b arsed buying all these mad products it's just unjustifiable coz all they ever seem to do is fuck with ratios and make the rootZone harder to manage. In the future when I retire and have a lot more time I will go with dry base elements n mix my own. My tap water is always really soft around 18 ppm, what is yours? you may have lots of junk in your water supply causing the issue (calcium supplement is a must especially with my LED), I use Europonic A+B Base and is a complete diet which is made by Growth Technology who also make Ionic so is probably much the same ingredients, I don't even bother with Bloom as it is a rip off market and so I use Grow all the way until harvest (no flush and no yellow leaves), I give a PK at half dosage from week one of flower as the grow nutes has not enough Phosphorous/Potassium to support a flowering plant and I get the same results as I got when I was blindfolded about the bloom scam years ago.