Why do some guys wats to still use mono led with cobs?

Add mono's to cobs?

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REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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bicit said:
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. The reason is because they CAN. Most likely those individuals have an inquisitive mind an enjoy exploring the options available. To see what results from tweaking with the spectrum.

Answer me this question. Why 3000k cobs? Why not 6500k for flowering? They're even more efficient. So why are you wasting time with inefficient high CRI LED's? Why does CRI matter? Why does PPFD matter?
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Lol I do have 6500k and a matter of fact it's DD bin being ran @500ma
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I just try it out and see how it flowers. As for 3000k I prefer 3500k and as for CRI that's a subject that's it's own topic because the sun is 100 CRI am I right?
 
Zulu Smoker

Zulu Smoker

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ttystikk said:
It would be nice if we could add a lil zing of UVB in there somehow...
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That would be great also, but replacing bulbs suck. I don't think there's an alternative to that since that's the easiest way of providing UV light artificially. Are there any REAL UV LEDs? None right?
 
littlejacob

littlejacob

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Bonjour
Is using 730nm at lights out is considered as using monos!??
And if we use small cob instead of monos...is it considered as using mono...?
And customize a cob...is it considered too?
Monos bring nice colors in your box...makes me want to go partying!
Have a great day ★
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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REALSTYLES said:
Stop being so serious lol I'm not that stupid lol and why aren't you using mono's anymore?
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Who said I wasn't using them
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doz said:
Thats what I keep wondering. All these pro-mono people yet the majority have transitioned to cobs and trashed all the mono LED panel companies.
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Everyone in favor of monos in this thread are all COB based and experienced users. COBs are very cool and have people in a mind washed state...it is phosphor conversion white led's in general(even single die) that are the driving force...cobs are just a form of them and are conveniently easy to work with for the average joe. And prices as the DIY crowd knows them...those are not the prices manufactures deal with, so it is not as great arguments...not is making a PCB an issue.
Back to my point...we are only suggesting the additions of the additions spectra to a broad and efficient white base. Apache has been the leader and imo and experience still is in spectrum and fully tuned systems. A concept that goes way before this new cob fad. And since cobs are only a form of phosphor conversion white leds, we are still after the same thing. The improvement in tech have allowed more general purpose lighting(standard 80cri WW) to rise above successful threshold(hps more or less) and has somewhat distracted everyone from perfection. But that is not the finish line, just another competitor in the race.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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Greengenes707 said:
Who said I wasn't using them
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Everyone in favor of monos in this thread are all COB based and experienced users. COBs are very cool and have people in a mind washed state...it is phosphor conversion white led's in general(even single die) that are the driving force...cobs are just a form of them and are conveniently easy to work with for the average joe. And prices as the DIY crowd knows them...those are not the prices manufactures deal with, so it is not as great arguments...not is making a PCB an issue.
Back to my point...we are only suggesting the additions of the additions spectra to a broad and efficient white base. Apache has been the leader and imo and experience still is in spectrum and fully tuned systems. A concept that goes way before this new cob fad. And since cobs are only a form of phosphor conversion white leds, we are still after the same thing. The improvement in tech have allowed more general purpose lighting(standard 80cri WW) to rise above successful threshold(hps more or less) and has somewhat distracted everyone from perfection. But that is not the finish line, just another competitor in the race.
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It's not a fad it's evolution you are a smart guy just face it times have changed and so has lighting. I'm smarter than you think I am. The cobs are here too stay and like all old tech it gets pushed to the side. I really don't like typing that's why I get right to the point.
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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Hey Cobblins Feast Your Eye's On A Real Growers Tent. I'm Asking Myself Do I Really Need Cobs To Improve My Growing Skills. I Think Not .Peace And Veni Vidi Vici :weed:
 

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ttystikk

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REALSTYLES said:
It's not a fad it's evolution you are a smart guy just face it times have changed and so has lighting. I'm smarter than you think I am. The cobs are here too stay and like all old tech it gets pushed to the side. I really don't like typing that's why I get right to the point.
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So quick, fairly relevant question; I'm planning to do the usual thing and flower with CXB3590 3500k chips. If I used the same chips in veg, should I expect more stretch than if I used, say, the 5000k chips in the pics you've been posting recently?
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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ttystikk said:
So quick, fairly relevant question; I'm planning to do the usual thing and flower with CXB3590 3500k chips. If I used the same chips in veg, should I expect more stretch than if I used, say, the 5000k chips in the pics you've been posting recently?
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It would be the same from what I've seen so far. The 6500k is right now just veg but I will give it a go in flower soon because I have 16 CXB3590 DB to run test with.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I'm really pretty inclined to agree with those who feel that broad spectrum COB LED chips are the better, more efficient choice than chips that slice n dice the spectrum.

I'm the contrarian who runs HPS in veg, specifically FOR the stretch, lol. I'm looking at COB LED lighting in veg for the simple reason that the potential savings are synergistic; less wattage per direct replacement will still let the plants grow faster, thus needing fewer stages to go from cutting to six foot tall bloom ready tree. In addition, veg lights are on longer.
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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REALSTYLES said:
It would be the same from what I've seen so far. The 6500k is right now just veg but I will give it a go in flower soon because I have 16 CXB3590 DB to run test with.
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From an equipment point of view, it would be nice to run all the same lighting from clone to chop. If said lighting is highly efficient then it's going to save money and improve growth everywhere we (properly!) install it, right?

I'm as impressed with the work you're doing in veg stages as in bloom. If you say there isn't much difference then the choice is simple. Besides, I don't recall seeing the sun change spectra dramatically between May and September, do you? LOL
 
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doz

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Apache Tech, leading the way with their AT120 @ $859 for only 156w power draw using god knows what components.
 
FranJan

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doz said:
Apache Tech, leading the way with their AT120 @ $859 for only 156w power draw using god knows what components.
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Nichia and MeanWell last time I looked but I don't know who makes their lensing system.

littlejacob said:
Bonjour
Is using 730nm at lights out is considered as using monos!??
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I'd say that's a fine example of leveraging spectrum to increase your yield, no?
 
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