if racism is bad, why hasn't the free market ended it?

[Rob Roy]

I described exactly what you proposed. If you wanted to take somebody to your muppet court, you said you get to go hire the mediator. When looking for a mediator, don't you think that the consumer is going to want one that will rule in their favor?

I understand that you are unwilling to face this. I would feel pretty embarrassed, too. It's a /really/ stupid justice system.

No need to be rude sir.
I'm afraid you didn't consider something and maybe I could have been clearer...

The "you" wasn't necessarily singular. When used in the plural, "you" would allow BOTH parties to a contract to pre-decide, mutually and consensually, who they might use in the event of any future disputes.

Furthermore the list of arbitrators could come from ones that the market had decided gave good service, not a coercion based monopoly as presently exists, which does not permit choice and will kill you if you disagree.

So, I think your assertion has been refuted and you have still not addressed the one I made.

Is it better to resolve a dispute if the disputants both have pre-agreed to use the same arbitrator or is it better to use one that holds a FORCIBLY HELD coercive monopoly, in which BOTH disputants might not even want to use?


I think part of the reason you have a problem with what I'm proposing is you aren't evaluating the message in the context I've intended and are studiously defending a contradiction. Perhaps more marijuana would put you in a better mood and able to expand your mind beyond the narrow perspective you are holding?

 

[Rob Roy]

I bet Rob Roy never gets invited to family events.

I bet you wish you had the balls to grow a plant and that your penis was bigger.

 

[abandonconflict]

"Unfettered capitalism is not the least bit coercive"

Said no smart person, ever.

 

[Glaucoma]

No need to be rude sir.
I'm afraid you didn't consider something and maybe I could have been clearer...

The "you" wasn't necessarily singular. When used in the plural, "you" would allow BOTH parties to a contract to pre-decide, mutually and consensually, who they might use in the event of any future disputes.

Furthermore the list of arbitrators could come from ones that the market had decided gave good service, not a coercion based monopoly as presently exists, which does not permit choice and will kill you if you disagree.

So, I think your assertion has been refuted and you have still not addressed the one I made.

Is it better to resolve a dispute if the disputants both have pre-agreed to use the same arbitrator or is it better to use one that holds a FORCIBLY HELD coercive monopoly, in which BOTH disputants might not even want to use?


I think part of the reason you have a problem with what I'm proposing is you aren't evaluating the message in the context I've intended and are studiously defending a contradiction. Perhaps more marijuana would put you in a better mood and able to expand your mind beyond the narrow perspective you are holding?

Wow, you finally answered a question I asked months ago.

OK then, moving on.. Somebody who knows they would be found guilty will never agree to mediatiation.

Now what?

 

[mnbvcxza]

CHECKMATE, LIBERTURDS.

'if racism is bad, why hasn't the free market ended it?'

what does that even mean ??

fucking love myself

 

[Rob Roy]

Wow, you finally answered a question I asked months ago.

OK then, moving on.. Somebody who knows they would be found guilty will never agree to mediatiation.

Now what?

Why would you enter into an agreement with anyone like that ?

 

[Glaucoma]

Why would you enter into an agreement with anyone like that ?

Enter into what agreement? I'm talking about taking somebody to your muppet court.

So if you want to take somebody to court and they say "I do not agree", that's it, huh?

And you call that justice?

 

[Rob Roy]

Enter into what agreement? I'm talking about taking somebody to your muppet court.

So if you want to take somebody to court and they say "I do not agree", that's it, huh?

And you call that justice?

I didn't advocate for a muppet court (singular). I advocated for a free market solution where there would be multiple options or "courts" as a possibility, not a singular one size fits all court, where it is possible BOTH disputants don't like that situation, but are forced to use it anyway.

You seem to have a problem with singular and plural. I'll try to help you out there.

 

[Rob Roy]

'if racism is bad, why hasn't the free market ended it?'

what does that even mean ??

fucking love myself

It means Uncle Buck has employed a non sequitur as a trolling technique.

 

[Rob Roy]

"Unfettered capitalism is not the least bit coercive"

Said no smart person, ever.

I am an Anarchist, but rely on forcible government for my sustenance. Said a person with two sides to their mouth.

 

[Glaucoma]

I didn't advocate for a muppet court (singular). I advocated for a free market solution where there would be multiple options or "courts" as a possibility, not a singular one size fits all court, where it is possible BOTH disputants don't like that situation, but are forced to use it anyway.

You seem to have a problem with singular and plural. I'll try to help you out there.

I asked a very simple and direct question. It seems clear to me that you understand how superficial this justice system is with the way you avoid talking about any sort of detail in the slightest.

 

[Rob Roy]

I asked a very simple and direct question. It seems clear to me that you understand how superficial this justice system is with the way you avoid talking about any sort of detail in the slightest.

Are you willing to admit that under the present so called justice system, the plaintiff and the judge often DO work for the same team ?
(That the question you thought was a gotcha question for me, but it was really pointing out a characteristic of the present system )

If you are willing to admit the obvious, then I think you might be open minded enough to continue the conversation and I will indulge your inquiry's further.

It will have to wait though...duty calls now and I might be offline for awhile.

 

[mnbvcxza]

It means Uncle Buck has employed a non sequitur as a trolling technique.

who da fuks uncle buck ?

 

[abandonconflict]

Enter into what agreement? I'm talking about taking somebody to your muppet court.

So if you want to take somebody to court and they say "I do not agree", that's it, huh?

And you call that justice?

In the "free-market" even justice is for sale.

 

[Glaucoma]

Are you willing to admit that under the present so called justice system, the plaintiff and the judge often DO work for the same team ?
(That the question you thought was a gotcha question for me was really pointing out a characteristic of the present system ?)

If you are willing to admit the obvious, then I think you might be open minded enough to continue the conversation and I will indulge your inquiry's further.

It will have to wait though...duty calls now and I might be offline for awhile.

So, this is how it works with you, huh? You ask questions I've already answered and you continue to ignore my questions.

If both parties have to agree on the mediator, what do you do when one of them refuses to agree?

 

[Rob Roy]

So, this is how it works with you, huh? You ask questions I've already answered and you continue to ignore my questions.

If both parties have to agree on the mediator, what do you do when one of them refuses to agree?

My apologies for not catching your answer...
Did you agree with me that when the state is also the plaintiff, that a situation exists where the plaintiff (forcibly) decides who will arbitrate the dispute or issue?

What does the state do when one party refuses to arbitrate?

 

[Rob Roy]

In the "free-market" even justice is for sale.

You're half right.

Justice is something that exists independently whether or not it is recognized and abided by or rendered.

The SERVICE of arbitrating disputes is a service that should be paid for though, wouldn't you say?

 

[abandonconflict]

You're half right.

No, completely right. People who can't afford justice will not receive it in your free market capitalist utopia.

 

[Rob Roy]

who da fuks uncle buck ?

He's a famous crayon artist who blesses us with his wisdom from time to time. You'll smell him when he's here.

 

[ChesusRice]

I bet you wish you had the balls to grow a plant and that your penis was bigger.

My penis is fine. I think of my family when making the decision not to grow in a state where 1 plant is a felony with asset forfeiture (our house)

You are a racist pedophile. NO one here likes you. Not even other racists