It was mainly my uncle who had the expertise...i just stared at the site of awesomeness, knowing i was being blessed. This was all strictly guerilla grows at that time........the smell wasnt overpowering until they were brushed up against or touched......but bear in mind this was a few years ago, and i suffer from a injury to my brain so at times i space information. I'll ask uncle dan for his info again on ducksfoot, and tbh i'd adore seeing maybe even be able to try the islands ducksfoot, i am a lover of all things 808,especially surf'd outs grows(even though he frquents 2 sites i cannot stand) classic seeds gear.....ALOHA my friends, i may be several thousand miles from you but my heart is in the islands!