yester
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and also the same JT who in 2009 voted for mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana production.
Election 2015
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Did you notice how one of jt's inner circle was forced to quit today? The big oil lobbyist telling oil company's how to do business with a liberal minority gov? The guy running fucking jt's election bid? Lol! And does anyone have any doubt Chuck isn't just as dirty as this guy? They're all dirty as fuck. Highitsme.
VIANARCHRIS
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I can't find anything about it in the MSM? There are a couple of sites like 420UK carrying the story, but nothing on the normal news sites. Wonder why?
ricky1lung
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Found a decent article:
Smoking out Canadian political parties' plans for marijuana reform: an election 2015 explainer
by Travis Lupick on September 21st, 2015 at 1:43 PM
SHARED 163
The Conservatives have committed to more of the same. Meanwhile, the Liberal party led by Justin Trudeauhas promised to legalize marijuana. The NDP's Thomas Mulcair has pledged to decriminalize the drug while devoting resources to further study the issue.
Confused about marijuana reform and who has promised what ahead of this October's federal election? Let us break it down for you, point by point.
SHUTTERSTOCK
I've spent the last month researching recreational marijuana as an election issue. The result is 4,500 words spread across three articles (linked below). If you're interested but don't have time for all that, here are the Coles notes.
A) Party positions
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP: Decriminalization.
3) Liberals: Legalization.
STEPHEN HUI
B) How legalization and decriminalization differ on the demand side (i.e. how the consumer—you—will be directly affected)
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: It is no longer a criminal offence to posses small amounts of pot for personal use. But, that doesn't make it legal to possess. So, if a cop catches you with a joint, they can't arrest you or press criminal charges. But they could write you a ticket for a fine (like a speeding ticket). And that means your name would probably still go into police databases alongside the word marijuana.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana is legal. But, it will very likely be heavily regulated. So, if a cop catches you with a joint, they can't do anything about it. Nothing. As long as you're over 18 or 19, etc.
TRAVIS LUPICK
C) How legalization and decriminalization differ on the supply side (i.e. how the producer and distributor—your dealer—will be directly affected)
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: The status quo. Marijuana remains in the hands of organized crime.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana is legal. But, it will be heavily regulated. That will likely mean permits and licenses and rules around who can grow, who can distribute, where you can buy, etc. Rules around THC content, packaging, and advertising (likely no advertising at all). Legalization plus regulation also means consumer protection; for example, health codes will apply, grow-ops will be subject to inspections for cleanliness, etc. It will probably look a lot like tobacco (it will probably not look like alcohol, where government is actually in the sales business and therefore allows advertising, etc).
SHUTTERSTOCK
D) How legalization and decriminalization differ on taxation
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: The status quo.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana will be taxed and likely taxed heavily. (That said, the Liberals have acknowledged that if the price of pot goes up after legalization, people will continue to buy illegally and the regulated system will fail. So even with a heavy tax, the after-tax price of pot is actually expected to go below what marijuana sells for on the street today.)
Read the articles below for more detailed information plus opinions on decriminalization versus legalization from some of Vancouver's leading marijuana advocates.
Source: http://www.straight.com/blogra/534836/smoking-out-canadian-political-parties-plans-marijuana-reform-election-2015-explainer
Smoking out Canadian political parties' plans for marijuana reform: an election 2015 explainer
by Travis Lupick on September 21st, 2015 at 1:43 PM
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- Federal Liberals and New Democrats have each promised to reform marijuana laws by this time next year, but their platform positions are not as similar as most people believe.TRAVIS LUPICK
The Conservatives have committed to more of the same. Meanwhile, the Liberal party led by Justin Trudeauhas promised to legalize marijuana. The NDP's Thomas Mulcair has pledged to decriminalize the drug while devoting resources to further study the issue.
Confused about marijuana reform and who has promised what ahead of this October's federal election? Let us break it down for you, point by point.
I've spent the last month researching recreational marijuana as an election issue. The result is 4,500 words spread across three articles (linked below). If you're interested but don't have time for all that, here are the Coles notes.
A) Party positions
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP: Decriminalization.
3) Liberals: Legalization.
B) How legalization and decriminalization differ on the demand side (i.e. how the consumer—you—will be directly affected)
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: It is no longer a criminal offence to posses small amounts of pot for personal use. But, that doesn't make it legal to possess. So, if a cop catches you with a joint, they can't arrest you or press criminal charges. But they could write you a ticket for a fine (like a speeding ticket). And that means your name would probably still go into police databases alongside the word marijuana.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana is legal. But, it will very likely be heavily regulated. So, if a cop catches you with a joint, they can't do anything about it. Nothing. As long as you're over 18 or 19, etc.
C) How legalization and decriminalization differ on the supply side (i.e. how the producer and distributor—your dealer—will be directly affected)
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: The status quo. Marijuana remains in the hands of organized crime.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana is legal. But, it will be heavily regulated. That will likely mean permits and licenses and rules around who can grow, who can distribute, where you can buy, etc. Rules around THC content, packaging, and advertising (likely no advertising at all). Legalization plus regulation also means consumer protection; for example, health codes will apply, grow-ops will be subject to inspections for cleanliness, etc. It will probably look a lot like tobacco (it will probably not look like alcohol, where government is actually in the sales business and therefore allows advertising, etc).
D) How legalization and decriminalization differ on taxation
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: The status quo.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana will be taxed and likely taxed heavily. (That said, the Liberals have acknowledged that if the price of pot goes up after legalization, people will continue to buy illegally and the regulated system will fail. So even with a heavy tax, the after-tax price of pot is actually expected to go below what marijuana sells for on the street today.)
Read the articles below for more detailed information plus opinions on decriminalization versus legalization from some of Vancouver's leading marijuana advocates.
Source: http://www.straight.com/blogra/534836/smoking-out-canadian-political-parties-plans-marijuana-reform-election-2015-explainer
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
Thanks, Ricky!
Found a decent article:
Smoking out Canadian political parties' plans for marijuana reform: an election 2015 explainer
by Travis Lupick on September 21st, 2015 at 1:43 PM
SHARED 163
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Canada has a federal election scheduled for October 19, 2015. Ahead of that date, the country's three leading parties—the ruling Conservatives, the Liberals, and the New Democrats—have staked out different positions on the subject of recreational cannabis.
- Federal Liberals and New Democrats have each promised to reform marijuana laws by this time next year, but their platform positions are not as similar as most people believe.TRAVIS LUPICK
The Conservatives have committed to more of the same. Meanwhile, the Liberal party led by Justin Trudeauhas promised to legalize marijuana. The NDP's Thomas Mulcair has pledged to decriminalize the drug while devoting resources to further study the issue.
Confused about marijuana reform and who has promised what ahead of this October's federal election? Let us break it down for you, point by point.
SHUTTERSTOCK
I've spent the last month researching recreational marijuana as an election issue. The result is 4,500 words spread across three articles (linked below). If you're interested but don't have time for all that, here are the Coles notes.
A) Party positions
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP: Decriminalization.
3) Liberals: Legalization.
STEPHEN HUI
B) How legalization and decriminalization differ on the demand side (i.e. how the consumer—you—will be directly affected)
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: It is no longer a criminal offence to posses small amounts of pot for personal use. But, that doesn't make it legal to possess. So, if a cop catches you with a joint, they can't arrest you or press criminal charges. But they could write you a ticket for a fine (like a speeding ticket). And that means your name would probably still go into police databases alongside the word marijuana.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana is legal. But, it will very likely be heavily regulated. So, if a cop catches you with a joint, they can't do anything about it. Nothing. As long as you're over 18 or 19, etc.
TRAVIS LUPICK
C) How legalization and decriminalization differ on the supply side (i.e. how the producer and distributor—your dealer—will be directly affected)
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: The status quo. Marijuana remains in the hands of organized crime.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana is legal. But, it will be heavily regulated. That will likely mean permits and licenses and rules around who can grow, who can distribute, where you can buy, etc. Rules around THC content, packaging, and advertising (likely no advertising at all). Legalization plus regulation also means consumer protection; for example, health codes will apply, grow-ops will be subject to inspections for cleanliness, etc. It will probably look a lot like tobacco (it will probably not look like alcohol, where government is actually in the sales business and therefore allows advertising, etc).
SHUTTERSTOCK
D) How legalization and decriminalization differ on taxation
1) Conservatives: The status quo.
2) NDP and decriminalization: The status quo.
3) Liberals and legalization: Marijuana will be taxed and likely taxed heavily. (That said, the Liberals have acknowledged that if the price of pot goes up after legalization, people will continue to buy illegally and the regulated system will fail. So even with a heavy tax, the after-tax price of pot is actually expected to go below what marijuana sells for on the street today.)
Read the articles below for more detailed information plus opinions on decriminalization versus legalization from some of Vancouver's leading marijuana advocates.
Source: http://www.straight.com/blogra/534836/smoking-out-canadian-political-parties-plans-marijuana-reform-election-2015-explainer
hahahaha They must have had a talk with a couple people in the know... to actually come up with the RIGHT IDEA FINALLY!!!...
We've been yappin about how the price should come down like this for a while.
It SHOULD BE CHEAPER THAN TOBACCO it doesnt come rolled and packaged ...
YET!!
I read that it may be a PLOY so they can say he was not around during the election...
he did lie and say he wasn't helping whatshisname he can easily lie about anything..
ricky1lung
Well-Known Member
Im probably gonna get chewed a new one again, but what the hell.hahahaha They must have had a talk with a couple people in the know... to actually come up with the RIGHT IDEA FINALLY!!!...
We've been yappin about how the price should come down like this for a while.
It SHOULD BE CHEAPER THAN TOBACCO it doesnt come rolled and packaged ...
YET!!
The libs position seems like a reasonable approach that can work as a good start Far better than the ndp decrim IMO. The article does highlight the 3 parties differences and the potential outcomes that make sense according to the respective platforms.
Only a few days to go, I just hope the CONing of Canadians will end Election Day.
ricky1lung
Well-Known Member
It would be easy for them to be licenced to grow for the legal market and not just med. according to this the most likely place to buy it would be a convenience store or dispensary type place but could also be in private liquor stores like in Alberta but not in liquor stores in places like Manitoba.
Seems easy enough to implement and regulate.
ricky1lung
Well-Known Member
That's why I think being sold in liquor stores is far more viable.
A hybrid of the tobacco and alcohol regs seems far more plausible and easier to implement.
The no advertising side from tobacco would make the anti pot crowd happier and the tax revenue and profits from sales in gov run stores like liquor stores would make the gov happy.
To me, it's the easiest way to do it. Just have to work out med users and home grows, which should get way better.
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ricky1lung
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If it doesn't fit in the slot, try, harder, harder, harder....
I think that counts.
april
Pickle Queen
Just fold it and use both hands...it's the Trudeau approach. ...
WHATFG
Well-Known Member
Such a way with words April hahahaha...your vote always counts...
