Lighting, best for cannabis.

Rev.thenatural

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I dont put them in direct light. 50% of the time tops will bleach if there is no shade around. Its hard enough getting rid of bugs that never get a winter session. I'm aware of our outdoor potency but hey, we've been known for this for decades! As for using pots, its ALOT of work. Were talking gallons of watering every 2 days each pot without aeration. The main problem is indica's are very problematic in my back yard especially without any artificial veg time.
Ah ha! Indica's are not made for that climate and why you get bleaching. You need some good Sativa's. Wish I could send you some incredible pure Sativa's as that's what you need and I'd love to see them grow for you. I understand about the pots, however it sounds like you need good genetics brother.rev.the natural
 

Rev.thenatural

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So how does that work then Rev
Well, why does a flowmaster muffler have a ringing sound? It just does lol. Molasses and sugar have always shown to put out the resin. Boys last summer had buds 11 weeks in flower, not frosty as mine at 4 weeks. Compost tea and sugar. They laughed at ole rev at first and bought all kinds of expensive nonsense and my piss tea and sugar destroyed all lol. Love the youth and if you show them, they'll hush, but you better show em or they give you heck lol. Rev.thenatural
 

tstick

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If you were to take a seed from a landrace Oaxacan plant and then take it to the equator (where you claim the light is proper) where it would flower from seed, then it would flower very early….and complete the flowering cycle and then…die…which would be a LOT less than 20 weeks…or 30 weeks…or 44 weeks.

An annual, flowering plant, is only alive long enough to complete it's life cycle. It completes that cycle when it produces and sheds fruit/seed -after which, the plant dies. This is the way of the annual flowing plant in nature -or "God" if you prefer. But, even under the most artificial laboratory conditions, I would think it to be rather difficult (if not impossible) to keep the plant alive and blooming for 44 weeks. I mean, maybe if you just kept monster cropping it…but, then, that wouldn't technically be keeping the plant in bloom….and that also would certainly go against nature's way of doing things.
 

tstick

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Oh…and another thing… Marijuana is male, female or hermaphrodite. If "God" made a single "tree", then was it male, female or hermaphrodite?

And, in nature, marijuana would not grow as sinsemilla. There would be male flowers pollinating the females and there would be seed. Is your magical bud claim to that of a fully-ripened and SEEDED plant -the way "God" designed it? Because I think most of us are thinking about sinsemilla buds that have been unpollinated -certainly nothing having to do with "God's" design. God's design for marijuana is to have a male flower pollinate a female flower and produce seed to be shed. After which, the plant, itself, having no other "job", dies. This process takes place in a single growing season…not over a span of up to 44 weeks.
 

testiclees

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Well, why does a flowmaster muffler have a ringing sound? It just does lol. Molasses and sugar have always shown to put out the resin. Boys last summer had buds 11 weeks in flower, not frosty as mine at 4 weeks. Compost tea and sugar. They laughed at ole rev at first and bought all kinds of expensive nonsense and my piss tea and sugar destroyed all lol. Love the youth and if you show them, they'll hush, but you better show em or they give you heck lol. Rev.thenatural
Youre a proud and deaf jackass.
 

Rev.thenatural

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One of the fastest ways to get through the stages, is through pollination and it will shorten the cycle and makes bud super potent, so yes it is a fruit and will do it seeded or not. I breed pure Sativa's, including the 100% pure Acapulco golds pictured below and in order to get plenty bud with your seed, you keep males back in veg until female is nine weeks into fruiting and then flower your stud, so he's blowing by 11 weeks or less and then keep letting them ripen on for a few months and that's really how everyone should learn to grow and that what I teach. Super potent bud rich in cannabinoids and seeds to grow and eat and enjoy as intended. Can't beat that. The oaxacan is a great flower from seed specimen, simply because its the largest of all cannabis. In the background of second picture, you can see a seven foot oaxacan, I flowered with a couple weeks veg years ago. Rev.thenaturalIMG_20150813_151829834.jpgDSC03925.JPG
 

Rev.thenatural

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The oaxacan pictured was around 13 weeks in that picture with eight ounces of bud. At 22 weeks, she had pound and a half and started ripening for cannabinoids. By 30 weeks she was well into second stage ripening, which few know anything about and had over two pounds as second stage, builds more bud mass also. Wow, see you gain it all with a little patience and understanding. Rev.thenatural
 

tstick

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Seems like you would have taken some more picures of those 30 week old plants. Why did you stop photographing them at 13 weeks?

And that's a really deceptive angle to shoot a picture of a plant from. We used to take pictures like that when we were kids so that we looked like giants. LOL I haven't thought about that in years…but seeing that photograph of your 7 foot plant brought it all back.
 

SPLFreak808

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Ah ha! Indica's are not made for that climate and why you get bleaching. You need some good Sativa's. Wish I could send you some incredible pure Sativa's as that's what you need and I'd love to see them grow for you. I understand about the pots, however it sounds like you need good genetics brother.rev.the natural
Good genetics or not, indica's will not do well. I've got a load of great afghani beans that shoot me up to 5 zips a plant with just 1 month veg time indoor! The same plant does NOT like my sun lpl
 

Rev.thenatural

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Here are some pictures of a cheese around the time most cut at 10-11 weeks. The other picture, is a Bruce banner at over 16 weeks under 7200k. At this point you can see how fan leaves have been eat and color is changing and true cannabinoids are just starting to be produced. Yet, there is still lots of green and THC to be converted, through further ripening...has a long way to go. Last picture is a close up of the bud. In time, god willing, I will show you this winter with the ac golds, just how long it takes and each stage and you'll know I've spoken truth. I'm sorry all this has been forgotten. Rev..IMG_20150610_202017796_HDR.jpgIMG_20150528_200810516.jpg IMG_20150528_200837752.jpg
 

tstick

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Nice looking bud.

-but what about the 30 week bud pictures? They must look completely different than 16 or 18 weeks. It is these super-long flowered buds that nobody ever sees that you are talking about…Why do you not show those plants? That is after all, the thing that is pretty significantly different than what most people consider a long-flowering sativa -by a long shot -almost twice as long! So, where are those pics? let's see some 30-week old plants blooming….please
 

Rev.thenatural

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Nice looking bud.

-but what about the 30 week bud pictures? They must look completely different than 16 or 18 weeks. It is these super-long flowered buds that nobody ever sees that you are talking about…Why do you not show those plants? That is after all, the thing that is pretty significantly different than what most people consider a long-flowering sativa -by a long shot -almost twice as long! So, where are those pics? let's see some 30-week old plants blooming….please
I've lived here 18 months, those Acapulco golds above are going to be flowered in a few weeks. Then you and everyone else can see the whole process god willing and it will take more than 30 weeks. Nothing more to discuss now. I will update in two months and everyone can watch the process and they'll be nothing more to debate. I will harvest a different gold at each stage of ripening to also have tested so all of you and science can see true cannabinoids profile. There will be nothing left to think about and simply a choice to make then. See ya in a couple months as I've got people that need good beans and we are working on that also. Happy growing, rev.thenatural
 

Rev.thenatural

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Before we rest a couple months, for those wondering about how the pure Acapulco golds are doing. Remember we got 12 to hatch out of 244 45 year old seeds. Nature is usually 50/50 and so we got 6 males and 6 females. What was important, was to find a male and a hopeful prime stud and we did. This is neo and he is gorgeous! Strong from the start and blood red veins everywhere. God willing we will seed this species the right way with males for all of us to eventually enjoy and for science also as many things in botany are going to have to be looked at again from a different perspective. Ac gold and tai have some things in common and that's not for now as I've already mentioned what they are and it wasn't received well neither. Just know nothing is more potent and nothing opens the mind faster than a pure tai or ac gold. I'm excited about showing all of you the true ripening process of cannabis, using the most powerful and rare sativa and also how to seed and still get plenty of bud. So more fun to come. One love, rev.thenaturalIMG_20150830_193258331.jpg
 

Rev.thenatural

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I ran t5 in flower for a long time. Best combo I found was with 3 uvl redsun and 3 htg 5400k and 2 2700k
Fantastic combination and red sun bulbs rock and I'm sure your crop surpassed any grown under sodium bulbs. Just suggestion, try sometime a 41-5500k combination with ati blue plus 14000k. Rocks the trichromes and the high blue will quicken ripening in all stages. T5 period, will produce quality bud. I'm smoking some right now from a local t5 grower and its sweet herb. Think its chemdawg and og 18. Proper defoliation will also increase yield three fold under t5. One love, rev.thenatural
 

Rev.thenatural

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Yup
Defoliation?
Defoliation at the proper timing will increase yields three fold under t5. I'll give you the timing as few explain it in lamens terms that understand how to do it properly. Once you get to the ninth node, top your trees. Then once the branch has come out of the node from the fan leaf and extends far enough for the branch itself to form fan leaves, then you pull the big leaf the branch extended from that node. Repeat that on every newly formed primary branch and when the primary branch starts to produce secondary branches from its fan leaves, then pull half of those on each secondary and flower. During flower, pretty much pull most all leaves that have long stems, except the ones coming directly out of the bud. Cannabis rocks under t5 with this technique, better than any we have used. Most defoliate wrong in veg and stunt their trees and then think it does not work. It works incredible when done right. When I show how to do it on outside crops hopefully this summer, you won't believe until you see it. I'll have 20ft monsters with nothing but torpedo's from a sub hanging off of them. People preach the wrong thing and down techniques that could be properly understood and increase cannabis production unreal, with much less electricity and junk. They just have to be willing to listen to those of us willing to help. Try some defoliation and it works better the less light you use, so small scale growers really need to learn the proper technique to it. Happy growing, rev.the natural....old master kush that has been properly defoliated. Around five feet.IMG_20150528_194658376_HDR.jpg
 

Rev.thenatural

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Real quick. I mentioned yesterday how we freaked out over the performance also of the cheap ultrasun 7200k hid. When I tried the plantmax 7200k, it was also impressive and had nice blue and a few nice peaks in the red, that did not work against ripening. However, the cheap ultrasun, has this crazy right in the middle high green spectrum with a shot of blue. Side by side, you could see that the ultrasun was more blue than the plantmax and green, even though the plantmax showed a higher peak in blue nanometers, the long peaks in red, still worked against trichrome production. The ultrasun with no peaks in red, made this cheese pheno, stink up a house with scrubbers lol. Slightest touch, glued your hands together. Rev.thenaturalIMG_20150528_200710249.jpg
 

Rev.thenatural

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How would it work if I veged under hps then flowered under the hamilton bulb?
You asked a great question brother and I have your exact answer lol. Sodium bulbs and the red spectrum, produces allot of chlorophyll b. That works against you when flowering cannabis as discussed. However, for vegging the sodium bulbs would allow for proper stretch and leaves are produced galore. You keep leaves pulled at proper time or say keep at least 50% pulled, you will allow fast secondary branch growth and stronger primary branches. Con of using sodium bulbs even in veg are two. One, believe it or not powdery mildew flourishes under sodium bulbs and I've shown people were a simple change to high intensity discharge, would make mildew disappear. Two, it is best to grow them start to finish under same bulb and you will get intense smells and beautiful more exotic looking growth under the beach and I just raise the lights if I need more stretch. As discussed, you guys know you can use any bulb to grow, however the beach will be your best bet start to finish. You could also consider a conversion 6500-7200k for veg and use the beach for flower and save time on the beach bulbs. Understand, most of you have never seen this tree really start to kill itself and ripen. The 14000k does it quick and your leaves are going to yellow and crumble and fall off fast and that's what the tree is supposed to do, so don't freak out lol. You will see things never dreamed and your joints will clog every time. Happy growing, rev.thenatural
 
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