Lighting, best for cannabis.

[Gbuddy]

Loaded subject? Or just another misunderstanding? Well, you can easily go to google and find thread after thread after video on the subject. One debating with another, one putting one bulb against another. You'll here par, nanometers, spectral distribution,photon energies absorbed at peak hours and then of course all the wonderful meters and expensive gadgets to monitor these things for of course great wisdom and a high price. Are you kidding me? I'm not going to give you that garbage today and don't want your money or to teach you Latin. Just to help and then...its on you or keep reading and listening to the experts and especially those who have something to sell you. Why should we listen to you rev? Not saying you should, if you do, however you will benefit as others and my family. All I'll say about me is this. I'm just an ole southern boy from the volunteer who has been around cannabis all my life. Moving out west has now allowed me to help people more freely and that's all I try to do as I know what it is like to be 200 pounds over weight and I cured all my deadly diseases and injuries over the last seven years by allowing the most high to teach a once miserable and dying man, the truth of this tree. I'm going to give it straight and if its not enough and some of you just got to have science papers to make your mouth water, by all means keep reading or stop your search here. Cannabis, whether you learn the truth of the ripening stages and carry the tree through all stages or not, has to be ripened properly in every stage to be its best. Organics is the only way to go for this, however what about light? How many of you grow with HP's? Plenty, now how many of you notice, oh yes the big buds and how when your 9-11 weeks into flower, how the buds want to keep putting out new growth? Plenty of you, I already know. Why is it doing that? Here is your answer. Cannabis in its cursed evolutionary state as we know it today, comes from areas around the tropic of cancer, equator, Himalayas and other mountainous regions. People are realizing that these areas are of course more intense in UV radiation and high UV is of great benefit to potentcy and quality in cannabis. However, what they are missing is that these areas also get more blue spectrum from the sun....not red,orange. The combination of intense uva/uvb and blue spectrum, is what allows cannabis to ripen through its cycles and die. Cannabis has to die in order to give its true healing properties and destroy disease and must be fed well for second stage ripening as cannabinoids and 50% more bud mass can be produced and most have no idea as too many have been pocketing money off of you guys and not even knowing this tree correctly. Sorry, just the truth oops. Red/orange light from HP's makes the tree want to keep living and that's why HP's will not ever allow the tree to properly ripen...ever. Hid is the one to use if you want the best and cure all disease. I have used nearly all of them in a three year study and not one HP's would ripen this tree properly, not one. All hid bulbs will. Is there a hid bulb that you recommend rev? Yes, after using most all hid bulbs, the rev found the best. The best bulb for growing cannabis and combined with compost tea, will produce bud you can't smoke as its too strong. Hamilton beach 14000k full spectrum aquarium reef bulbs. I run two 400s. Do you get kickbacks rev? Nope not at all. This bulb is the beez knees and its time we kept our money at home. If running t5 lighting, you can also ripen the tree just fine. You can use aquarium t5 bulbs to customize a t5 that will blow your mind and blow led out of the water for fraction of the cost. Combination of standard 4100k t5 and high blue plus t5 aquarium bulbs will produce bud that will peel your for head back. If running LEDs, you need the bulbs all white and blue or at least 75%blue and 25% red. But rev the papers say! Care less about those papers, we are growing the cursed wisdom tree, not cabbage. You want the best and to heal disease in yourself and your family quickly, then this was for you. Left brain thinkers and respectors of the educated don't like truth as their not taught it in school. This is for the right brainers who know that truth comes through little nobody worms that have applied it. People who fear truth the most are always those who believe they have something to loose. Get over it! We are loosing our lives over ignorance and money driven madness. Wives are miserable, kids know little to nothing and the only thing that will help possibly is to say were sorry and mean it and more of gods servants coming out and letting truth be known. No matter the cost. Happy growing. One love, rev.thenaturalView attachment 3484960

Peace and love to the rev!
I am listening.

One love

Peace

 

[youraveragehorticulturist]

The little graph for those bulbs looked good. All blue, no "wasted" greens or violets.

Will those aquarium bulbs hurt my eyes? Lizard bulbs are still harmful to my sight, right?

 

[james murphy]

lol funee sry carry on

 

[Rev.thenatural]

The little graph for those bulbs looked good. All blue, no "wasted" greens or violets.

Will those aquarium bulbs hurt my eyes? Lizard bulbs are still harmful to my sight, right?

Lol, they are very blue brother, however my eyes seem to adjust to them better than when running 4100k as the 4100k is very bright when not 40ft above you In a gym lol. Hamilton has been making this same bulb for 20yrs and when I concluded my research, I knew this would be the bulb for that reason. Construction of the bulb is great and 5 months of running this last pair and still blue as they can be and seems to like most ballast but older magnetic, may be better as they burn bright but the old magnetic beasts put off a little more heat but with 400s, no big deal. Now, the 14000k bulbs themselves are much cooler than the 4100k believe it or not so guys who run cool hoods would love these as sea of green guys and gals would be in heaven as you run the bulbs closer and stack nodes like pancakes and of course get copious amounts of resin and faster ripening from blue frequency's. Growth under these are more natural than anything I've grown with and roots go crazy as the blue seems to enhance root growth. When you ripen with these, you'll watch your leaves yellow super fast and that's what you want as that means the tree is dying and will continue to die and shed leaves one after another and it will continue to change color and change THC to better healing and feeling cannabinoids. For those boys out there that like those 1000 watt boat anchors lol, they sell these in that size to for giant reef tanks. I knew from building fresh water ecosystems and aquariums myself, that my brothers and sisters in the salt water business did not play. You can easily put ten grand in a 55 gallon and those corals are finicky and true professionals cannot afford to loose out over cheap bulbs. You can find a dud with any company, however when you've been making the same bulb for 20yrs and you keep aquarium professionals happy and your bulb is also showing the best spectrum for cannabis and other floral specimens like hibiscus, that's my bulb and I'm happy to buy them as others will be also when they learn and accept proper ripening and use these. If you can't get the beaches, we seen the next best bulbs were " plantmax 7200k, or ultrasun 7200k believe it or not wore out the hortilux blue on quality and potentcy." The spectrum on the ultrasun particular raised our curiosity as the cheap thing has a crazy predominate green/blue spectrum and even though the plantmax and other hid tried had some nice peaks elsewhere and did fantastic, the cheap crazy ultrasun, had a cheese pheno from a botanist friend in fort Collins and the buds were insane greasy and would stick your hands together with slightest touch of the buds and smelled like the most rotten and yet lovely aged blue cheese lol. Go figure? See they really like the opposite end of the spectrum that most give as even the cheap Chinese hid destroyed even the most expensive HP's and of course all hid will ripen. Were glasses! Lol your grow space has never been so blue and your herb so wonderful. One love rev.thenatural

 

[Gquebed]

Rev, if you could STFU until then, like you said you would, and come back later on with pics that blow our mind, I worship at your altar.

Holy fuck.....youre a cunt.

Right from your first post in this thread.

Doesnt matter what the rev was saying. It was his right to say it on this forum. It was his opinion. After however many decades of growing he is entitled to it. And there is probably some wisdom in it.

Who the fuck are you to come out and talk like a cunt to him and about him?

You may have your opinion. It might even be an informed one. And you have just as much right to it as rev does to his.

But you dont have the right to be a total cunt in voicing it.

If you dont like what he is saying you dont have to read it. Move on cunt...

 

[testiclees]

Holy fuck.....youre a cunt.

Right from your first post in this thread.

Doesnt matter what the rev was saying. It was his right to say it on this forum. It was his opinion. After however many decades of growing he is entitled to it. And there is probably some wisdom in it.

Who the fuck are you to come out and talk like a cunt to him and about him?

You may have your opinion. It might even be an informed one. And you have just as much right to it as rev does to his.

But you dont have the right to be a total cunt in voicing it.

If you dont like what he is saying you dont have to read it. Move on cunt...

A simple asshole defending a delusional idiot. Bro your thoughts and reactions are laughable. You sound like an idiot queen, suggest you empty your menstrual cup your words carry the stench of a sick bitch.

 

[BM9AGS]

testicles is doing society a favor and calling an idiot an idiot when he sees One. Wish more would do the same in this world.

 

[Gquebed]

A simple asshole defending a delusional idiot. Bro your thoughts and reactions are laughable. You sound like an idiot queen, suggest you empty your menstrual cup your words carry the stench of a sick bitch.

If thats what you get from what i said then you are also a moron. I defended free speach. nothing more.

The worst kind of cunt is the moron cunt.

 

[Rev.thenatural]

Stayed off two months because of this. This morning someone replies needing help and I reply and now this. Nothing new. To members and newbies that appreciate new advice and suggestions, my apologies but dealing with this stuff and attitude face to face is what I prefer and it seems all cannabis forums are dominated by a few dozen people that love being hateful to anybody that goes against the grain and they run people off that could help so much. You think when you have fought life and cancer and almost being paralyzed and west Nile virus and lost 200 pounds and found out how to cure all degenerative disease, that people would tune into a person and their testimony, when they have lived through things that have killed most. Not and no this is not the place...but should be. Had a guy offer to build me an incredible cannabis forum to get out new and beneficial information. I told him unless I could set it up to permanately delete those who are rude, I wouldn't do it. Word of mouth is a little slower, but best and you can pass someone a joint to hush them permanately and open the door to teach them something, when they smoke something that makes them feel like a novice again. Its not being weak, I just don't have time for internet attitude and profanity and everything else and no real man does. I know my generation messed up with you kids. I know how selfish and how undetermined so many of us were to sacrifice and learn some truth and love and teach it to you. I know all the mistakes we made. Some of us want to do better. Some of us have been shut down by Allah in order to learn and teach. Will you all be as stubborn and money and pride and sex driven as us? Will you shut your ears as my generation and others have done? Love one another, I'm telling you or we will see that religion has nothing to do with it and we will pay. Call it judgement, call it whatever you want, just know...we will pay. However right now there's no rush as we suffer our own curses, by the way we eat,drink,think,feel and treat others. Will it change? In the past it has not, that's the truth. Will it in the future? Guaranteed. Wheat from the chaff, coming soon. Happy growing and blessings. Rev.thenatural

 

[Gquebed]

testicles is doing society a favor and calling an idiot an idiot when he sees One. Wish more would do the same in this world.

And i just called a cunt a cunt. Same thing. Except indefended free speech. Nothing else...

 

[testiclees]

And i just called a cunt a cunt. Same thing. Except indefended free speech. Nothing else...

No, you're not doing the same thing you stupid motherfucking bitch. "defend free speech" are you joking, youre not capable of defending shit, simple idiot. Free speech comes with free feedback here's yours:

Dude your posts read like idiot tough guy meets witless, flaccid coward. You call me a moron and misspelled speech in the same sentence you fucking wanker!

The rev is a fucking bird brain and you are a crude piece of cowardly shit.

 

[testiclees]

Stayed off two months because of this. This morning someone replies needing help and I reply and now this. Nothing new. To members and newbies that appreciate new advice and suggestions, my apologies but dealing with this stuff and attitude face to face is what I prefer and it seems all cannabis forums are dominated by a few dozen people that love being hateful to anybody that goes against the grain and they run people off that could help so much. You think when you have fought life and cancer and almost being paralyzed and west Nile virus and lost 200 pounds and found out how to cure all degenerative disease, that people would tune into a person and their testimony, when they have lived through things that have killed most. Not and no this is not the place...but should be. Had a guy offer to build me an incredible cannabis forum to get out new and beneficial information. I told him unless I could set it up to permanately delete those who are rude, I wouldn't do it. Word of mouth is a little slower, but best and you can pass someone a joint to hush them permanately and open the door to teach them something, when they smoke something that makes them feel like a novice again. Its not being weak, I just don't have time for internet attitude and profanity and everything else and no real man does. I know my generation messed up with you kids. I know how selfish and how undetermined so many of us were to sacrifice and learn some truth and love and teach it to you. I know all the mistakes we made. Some of us want to do better. Some of us have been shut down by Allah in order to learn and teach. Will you all be as stubborn and money and pride and sex driven as us? Will you shut your ears as my generation and others have done? Love one another, I'm telling you or we will see that religion has nothing to do with it and we will pay. Call it judgement, call it whatever you want, just know...we will pay. However right now there's no rush as we suffer our own curses, by the way we eat,drink,think,feel and treat others. Will it change? In the past it has not, that's the truth. Will it in the future? Guaranteed. Wheat from the chaff, coming soon. Happy growing and blessings. Rev.thenatural

Dear Rev,

Thanks for your blessings. Since you're not accepting my silent self reflection suggestion...

Could you help the idiot coward gque? He seems to be in need of a firm guiding hand otherwise he could be on his way to a well deserved wig splitting.

Explain to him the folly of talking out your ass and how acting out in a stoner forum reveals hubris and petty ignorance.

Many Thanks

 

[BM9AGS]

Stayed off two months because of this. This morning someone replies needing help and I reply and now this. Nothing new. To members and newbies that appreciate new advice and suggestions, my apologies but dealing with this stuff and attitude face to face is what I prefer and it seems all cannabis forums are dominated by a few dozen people that love being hateful to anybody that goes against the grain and they run people off that could help so much. You think when you have fought life and cancer and almost being paralyzed and west Nile virus and lost 200 pounds and found out how to cure all degenerative disease, that people would tune into a person and their testimony, when they have lived through things that have killed most. Not and no this is not the place...but should be. Had a guy offer to build me an incredible cannabis forum to get out new and beneficial information. I told him unless I could set it up to permanately delete those who are rude, I wouldn't do it. Word of mouth is a little slower, but best and you can pass someone a joint to hush them permanately and open the door to teach them something, when they smoke something that makes them feel like a novice again. Its not being weak, I just don't have time for internet attitude and profanity and everything else and no real man does. I know my generation messed up with you kids. I know how selfish and how undetermined so many of us were to sacrifice and learn some truth and love and teach it to you. I know all the mistakes we made. Some of us want to do better. Some of us have been shut down by Allah in order to learn and teach. Will you all be as stubborn and money and pride and sex driven as us? Will you shut your ears as my generation and others have done? Love one another, I'm telling you or we will see that religion has nothing to do with it and we will pay. Call it judgement, call it whatever you want, just know...we will pay. However right now there's no rush as we suffer our own curses, by the way we eat,drink,think,feel and treat others. Will it change? In the past it has not, that's the truth. Will it in the future? Guaranteed. Wheat from the chaff, coming soon. Happy growing and blessings. Rev.thenatural

Allah? Why did you use the Arabic word for God?
If you've found the cure for "all degenerative diseases" then you'd have more money than Donald trump.

What world do you live in?

 

[green217]

Actually, some of us here mimic the environment of the plants dominent genes when growing. You also have an error, -->HP'S will not ever allow the tree to properly ripen...ever. Hid is the one to use if you want the best and cure all disease. I have used nearly all of them in a three year study and not one HP's would ripen this tree properly, not one. All hid bulbs will.

yeah man like someone else said HPS is HID

 

[Rev.thenatural]

Dear Rev,

Thanks for your blessings. Since you're not accepting my silent self reflection suggestion...

Could you help the idiot coward gque? He seems to be in need of a firm guiding hand otherwise he could be on his way to a well deserved wig splitting.

Explain to him the folly of talking out your ass and how acting out in a stoner forum reveals hubris and petty ignorance.

Many Thanks

You curse people and talk of wig splitting. Boy have I met many like you. Your humbling day will come, if you don't learn how to treat others. Remember I told you that when it happens, but I hope you reconsider as Allah is merciful. I'm not a coward. Would you like to meet? If you live in Colorado just say when? Call my bluff Mr. Testicle. You going to split my wig? You going to show what a tuff guy you are? I'm pretty easily spotted in the springs by the red cap I wear. Always willing to talk face to face with anyone and especially big tuff guys that like to split wigs. Names reverand john, you will find the servant of Allah easily and he is the only strong arm I need. Teachers need not fear the Mr. Testicles of the world. Mans so called bad ass pride, when he's nothing but dust. I know all about it and misdirected anger. My humbling day came and so will others. Teaching people truth is never easy but watch how fast god will start protecting those that do. You won't harm us this time. Nuts, lol I'm in good company and proud. Blessings to those who need it most, like all the Mr. Testicles out there splitting those wigs. I'm trying to mend hearts and show people how to heal and some of you tuff octagon boys out there splitting wigs. What you gonna do when it comes back to you one day? Cry like a baby and snot out the nose to that god so many no longer believe in, just like john here had to do. Exceptions to the rule? Never, not even one. We have nothing else to discuss unless you learn humility buy all means go ahead and get in the last word Mr. Testicles, however I am done...you like that don't you? Rev.thenatural

 

[testiclees]

You curse people and talk of wig splitting. Boy have I met many like you. Your humbling day will come, if you don't learn how to treat others. Remember I told you that when it happens, but I hope you reconsider as Allah is merciful. I'm not a coward. Would you like to meet? If you live in Colorado just say when? Call my bluff Mr. Testicle. You going to split my wig? You going to show what a tuff guy you are? I'm pretty easily spotted in the springs by the red cap I wear. Always willing to talk face to face with anyone and especially big tuff guys that like to split wigs. Names reverand john, you will find the servant of Allah easily and he is the only strong arm I need. Teachers need not fear the Mr. Testicles of the world. Mans so called bad ass pride, when he's nothing but dust. I know all about it and misdirected anger. My humbling day came and soe will others. Teaching people truth is never easy but watch how fast god will start protecting those that do. You won't harm us this time. Nuts, lol I'm in good company and proud. Blessings to those who need it most, like all the Mr. Testicles out there splitting those wigs. I'm trying to mend hearts and show people how to heal and some of you tuff octagon boys out there splitting wigs. What you gonna do when it comes back to you one day? Cry like a baby and snot out the nose to that god so many no longer believe in, just like john here had to do. Exceptions to the rule? Never, not even one. We have nothing else to discuss unless you learn humility buy all means go ahead and get in the last word Mr. Testicles, however I am done...you like that don't you? Rev.thenatural

rev you are a fool. Nothing more. Please stick with your promise of silence. In the past you've not followed through on your vows.

Your apologist is a coward in need of a wig splitting.

 

[Gbuddy]

^^^
Hey dude you ever heard about karma?
It will come back to you.
what goes around comes around.
I know from personal experience.

Do yourself and the people around a favour and get some manners.

You may think its cool to behave like an asshole and people laughing about what you say...
But thats all ... they laugh about you because laughter is all you deserve. Nobody can respect a guy like you aswell as nodody likes a guy like you. You will be alone and die alone because all the bad karma surounding you.
dunno what kind of childhood you experienced but I honestly wish for your soul that you can get over all the hate that lives in your chest.

Karma think about it.

This rev has a opinion. Ok. I dont fully agree with him either. Ok. I yet have to see what he can come up with other than words. Ok. So I wait.
there is no reason to spit on him.

Try to calm down your hate and change your mind. You bitchslap him now and karma will bitchslap you one day. Ying yang bro.

It hurts to see how full of hate you are and Ill include your soul in my prayers bro.

Isnt it better trying to be helpful instead of being full of hate?

Ok you maybe will jump on me now telling how shitty my english is and that I cant spell and that I should visit a grammar class before I talk to you. Ok. You may call me names now. Ok.
You know what? It runs down like water on a ducks back. But...
I can forgive you because I were at the same point you are now long ago and it was no good bro.

Peace

 

[testiclees]

^^^
Hey dude you ever heard about karma?
It will come back to you.
what goes around comes around.
I know from personal experience.

Do yourself and the people around a favour and get some manners.

You may think its cool to behave like an asshole and people laughing about what you say...
But thats all ... they laugh about you because laughter is all you deserve. Nobody can respect a guy like you aswell as nodody likes a guy like you. You will be alone and die alone because all the bad karma surounding you.
dunno what kind of childhood you experienced but I honestly wish for your soul that you can get over all the hate that lives in your chest.

Karma think about it.

This rev has a opinion. Ok. I dont fully agree with him either. Ok. I yet have to see what he can come up with other than words. Ok. So I wait.
there is no reason to spit on him.

Try to calm down your hate and change your mind. You bitchslap him now and karma will bitchslap you one day. Ying yang bro.

It hurts to see how full of hate you are and Ill include your soul in my prayers bro.

Isnt it better trying to be helpful instead of being full of hate?

Ok you maybe will jump on me now telling how shitty my english is and that I cant spell and that I should visit a grammar class before I talk to you. Ok. You may call me names now. Ok.
You know what? It runs down like water on a ducks back. But...
I can forgive you because I were at the same point you are now long ago and it was no good bro.

Peace

First off im gonna say youre a hypocritical asshole. You tell me to get some manners but you like gq post where he uses cunt and moron. GBuddy im not surprised youre a thoughtless twat. Self important and self righteous are traits you share with your cretins in crime rev and gq. Here im pointing out that you are basically too fucking simple to make a cogent point.

Thanks for sharing your "wisdom" bro. But it is plain that you have made a fundamental error in interpretation. You are aware this is an online stoner forum. Right?. Within that context it is customary and useful to debate, correct, argue, debunk etc. Again you are out of your depth unable to process what is happening. Letting the rev know that he is clueless is appropriate and worthwhile. Letting you know that you are lost, out of your depth, sanctimonius etc is also a point to be made.

I have no hate for the Rev. I'm simply pointing out that he is mistaken in many of his gardening beliefs and that his 'wisdom' is laughable hubris. If you read through the thread you'll see that others support my assessment.

Your sanctimonius karma rant is misplaced. I appreciate your prayers, thank you. Reading your prediction that i will "die alone" i get the feeling that you , like the rev, are also an idiot with an unfounded sense of self wisdom. I'll pray for you. I request that you take some time in silent self reflection because your post is nonsense and its as useless and misleading as the revs advice. Your "wisdom" is as phony and delusional as the rev. Neither of you have the capacity to make sense. Qg is simply a troubled POS.

Thanks for "forgiving me" it means so much coming from a bloated gasbag such as yourself.

 

[tstick]

So, I skimmed over the posts and I am curious to verify that what the OP is saying is that, contrary to popular opinion, a light that is very high in the blue/green temp. range (14000k) is "the key" to cannabis ripening into a more effective medicine?

OP, Do you mean that these 14000K bulbs (used mainly to grow corals and aquarium plants) are to be used SOLEY as a main light source for cannabis? Or, do you mean as a supplemental light?

Thanks

 

[Rev.thenatural]

So, I skimmed over the posts and I am curious to verify that what the OP is saying is that, country to popular opinion, a light that is very high in the blue/green temp. range (14000k) is "the key" to cannabis ripening into a more effective medicine?

OP, Do you mean that these 14000K bulbs (used mainly to grow corals and aquarium plants) are to be used SOLEY as a main light source for cannabis? Or, do you mean as a supplemental light?

Thanks

Oh my goodness, bingo brother! Nailed it and yes start to finish, unless you want to veg under t5 then mix 50/50 ati blue 14000k aquarium bulbs and standard ole 4100k. Lol. My brothers. Rev.thenatural