Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

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Dungeons_Vault

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eastcoastmo said:
Cheers mate, definitely going to be popping them!
I'm a bit confused now, I thought candyland was bay platinum cookies x gdp....am I mistaken with this?
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Thats what they said they were inside the pack.
They at one point told me it was GSC x Bay11 x GDP.... SMH i knew it was an F1 and they hadnt worked it that far.

"BAY" was the breeder. SO BAY's Platinum Cookies is what it should have said. Even though he had no part in making GSC
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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I'm gonna GIVE AWAY the rest of these "karma seeds" and start fresh with all my grandpas breath releases. Ken aint got ANY of those. NO WAY NO HOW. So you guys can judge me then. I'll give away enough packs here soon to make enough people believers. I have pics of all my strains. I have people (testers) growing out my gear and making sure it's good before I release. Nothing I put out is untested. Can Ken say that? I know he can't honestly.
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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In case you guys dont go back and read all the drama...
Ken is finally here and offically trying to call me out.

Ask yourself just a few key things...
Do you trust and or buy seeds from a guy who knowingly takes other peoples work, changes the name, calls it their creation, and then wins a cup with it?
How does a guy who bred seeds outdoors, or indoors (doesnt fucking matter) and harvest those seeds in October, DRY THEM, GERMINATE THEM, SEX THEM, PHENO HUNT THEM (remember he's a breeder right, and said I just picked random males), GROW THOSE PLANTS, HARVEST THEM, DRY THEM, ANDDDDD GET THEM TESTED, AND HAVE BROCHURES MADE WITH ALL THE TEST RESULTS....
ALLLLLLL IN TIME FOR EMERALD CUP IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER?????????????????????????

That literally gave him a total of 74 days to do all that... Now I have heard of people making miracles happen, but EVERY one of us knows cannabis. We have grown from seed. We have started from clone... NO way can you make all the above mentioned things happen in that time period. Thats all you have to ask him. HOW did you do that Ken. I would LOVE to have him on film and see his ass sweat while trying to explain himself.
 
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eastcoastmo

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Dungeons_Vault said:
Thats what they said they were inside the pack.
They at one point told me it was GSC x Bay11 x GDP.... SMH i knew it was an F1 and they hadnt worked it that far.

"BAY" was the breeder. SO BAY's Platinum Cookies is what it should have said. Even though he had no part in making GSC
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Cheers for clearing it up mate, either way it's a dank strain and definitely one of my favs.
Are you able to shed some light on the makeup of the candyland v2?
I'm very keen on your other offerings too, all the pics you have posted have looked very nice :-D
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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eastcoastmo said:
Cheers for clearing it up mate, either way it's a dank strain and definitely one of my favs.
Are you able to shed some light on the makeup of the candyland v2?
I'm very keen on your other offerings too, all the pics you have posted have looked very nice :-D
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When Ken's old team left him, they took all the clones, males, seeds, moms, etc.
Ken and his team have been making cuts of their strains (cup winners, and keepers) for quite some time, so it wasn't too hard for them to get THOSE back. They had ZERO males. I used NONE of the old stock, and started over. I took a cut of "Platinum GSC" that I had sourced, and hit it with a chosen GDP male from over 30 seeds grown. It had all the characteristics of the mom. So all the V2 is is possibly a different "platinum cookies" and a different GDP male.
Essentially the same cross, but when using different parents, whether from the same seed stock, or not, you'll end up wit ha different creation. Obviously some similarities will be seen, but you will have a different outcome.
 
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petedav

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akhiymjames said:
Where these an older original release or the new release from this year? I have a new release pack which is what I asked Ken about.



Awesome sauce right there bro. really wanted a pack from the old release but never got them. Still mad I missed out on them and Candyland but oh well. Looks like you may have some magic in those f2s
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new release i think.. i wanted them for a long time coz they was all sold out at attitude fo over a year?
 
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eastcoastmo

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Dungeons_Vault said:
When Ken's old team left him, they took all the clones, males, seeds, moms, etc.
Ken and his team have been making cuts of their strains (cup winners, and keepers) for quite some time, so it wasn't too hard for them to get THOSE back. They had ZERO males. I used NONE of the old stock, and started over. I took a cut of "Platinum GSC" that I had sourced, and hit it with a chosen GDP male from over 30 seeds grown. It had all the characteristics of the mom. So all the V2 is is possibly a different "platinum cookies" and a different GDP male.
Essentially the same cross, but when using different parents, whether from the same seed stock, or not, you'll end up wit ha different creation. Obviously some similarities will be seen, but you will have a different outcome.
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Awesome man, thanks again, I appreciate the response! Are the V2's still available anywhere?
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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greenghost420 said:
just the renaming game is shady alone! i hate that shit....i might have to grab some of those grandpas breath.
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I'm glad I've got at least you reading this...
Look, Ken's right in the regard to me having a bad attitude towards some folks, but in this industry and many others, the saying "you can't please everyone" rings loudly. I have made mistakes and popped off and said things I shouldn't have, but in the end, I am a person with character and compassion and I gave years to Grand Daddy Genetics and got literally nothing til I made the seeds. So, did I profit off of Ken's name? YES. By hiring me and putting me in the position he did, did Ken help me market and sell my seeds? YES. But, in the end, he was given nearly half of all sales. I'm not gonna lie and say I didn't sell seeds to other people without him knowing, but it was a few packs here and a few packs there... I felt I was more than entitled to do that to help myself survive, seeing Ken wasn't giving me money.
 
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BDOGKush

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I'm still lost on what strains are legit and what should be avoided...

I've given DVG some flak early in the thread but I have no doubt he is who he says he is and that the strains he is working with can produce very nice plants.

After seeing people impersonate other breeders on this forum, I'll need more than just a screen name to believe that's actually Ken.
 
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Ken Estes

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Dungeons_Vault said:
I'm glad I've got at least you reading this...
Look, Ken's right in the regard to me having a bad attitude towards some folks, but in this industry and many others, the saying "you can't please everyone" rings loudly. I have made mistakes and popped off and said things I shouldn't have, but in the end, I am a person with character and compassion and I gave years to Grand Daddy Genetics and got literally nothing til I made the seeds. So, did I profit off of Ken's name? YES. By hiring me and putting me in the position he did, did Ken help me market and sell my seeds? YES. But, in the end, he was given nearly half of all sales. I'm not gonna lie and say I didn't sell seeds to other people without him knowing, but it was a few packs here and a few packs there... I felt I was more than entitled to do that to help myself survive, seeing Ken wasn't giving me money.
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I don't need to get into the name calling and all the negative energy you bring to this. Is it bad enough that you stole from me after I tried to help you? But than you go on a name calling rampage and try to put me and my business down? I've never once said anything about you that is not true. So you're finally here admitting that you took more than half of the inventory when you were holding it all from me anyway and in the meanwhile there were 3 partners in this business. I'm sorry but that wasn't the agreement! That means it gets split up 3 ways not just 50/50! Especially, when your whole ops was paid for not to mention we gave you money for extraction equipment and another spot you were gonna rent and what happened to that? So I'm glad the truth is finally out there that you have no ethics in business and that coupled in with your bad attitude is a bad combination especially in this business. The problem is exactly what you're admitting here also that you felt entitled even though you wouldn't be where you are here today without any of our help. You're sitting here talking about surviving through this time and selling packs on the side for extra money and you had all the inventory that is just wrong! Who does that? Who wants a partner that isn't straight up with them being open and honest? It is a business so you should have stuck by the terms of the agreement and treated it like one! You didn't and wanted to try and keep it all for yourself. Than you come out and say that I ripped you off!! Get real you talk about trying to survive, but you were buying new gear, motorcycles and toys that you admitted earlier. If you're trying to survive than why go and buy frivolous things? Because it is not true and you know it. If you have no integrity in this industry than what do you have?
 
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