To flower or not to flower.

[TheLemon]

Hi RIU!!

I have 2 plants, 1 tiny stringy 42 day old (from seed) white widdow and a 49 day old fruit spirit.

I have been holding off as i did not want to flower until the runt WW was big enough, but my FS is getting too big now, so my question is, can I flower now, will the white widdow get strong enough stalks in time? I have fan on it 24/7 btw, but still stringy. Here's pics

Also if anyone knows what those yellow dots are on some leaves that would help also.
Thanks,

TheLemon.

 

[hotrodharley]

Silicon. Read about it and flower them if stem strength is the big hangup. What soil are you using?Have you been feeding? If so with what and how much of it? Don't get hung up on all the pH crap that is going to come yet. Lights? Type/number/distance from canopy?

 

[Indacouch]

They all look like they would flower without any issues if that's your question ......how often are you watering them

 

[TheLemon]

Havent read much about silicon, but this is my first grow so I'm not too worried. Are you saying flowering will help stem strength?

Dont judge, I know i should use fox farms or promix but....
I am using standard tomato soil, once the nutes in that soil ran out (3 weeks) I started with 0.5ml / L of biogrow, watering when needed and adding nutes about every 2nd or 3rd watering. Also adding .5ml / l calmag plus every watering.

Lights, I have 1 125w blue spec CFL (tried using 2 but room got too hot and white widdow got heat stress).
for flower I have 2 300W red spec CFLs.
20w 100mm intake and extake fans with 1 airflow fan blowing on both plants.

Had to sort out ph as it was too high using tap water and my leaves grew mangled, ph is sorted now and new growth is perfect...

hope thats enough info.

 

[Desr]

i would tie them down to even out..and let veg like 2 more wks, then flower.

 

[TheLemon]

i would tie them down to even out..and let veg like 2 more wks, then flower.

Aren't they too big for LST? I had assumed I had missed my window to do it.

 

[New Age United]

Silicon. Read about it and flower them if stem strength is the big hangup. What soil are you using?Have you been feeding? If so with what and how much of it? Don't get hung up on all the pH crap that is going to come yet. Lights? Type/number/distance from canopy?

Are you suggesting siliconing the stem, like caulking silicone?

 

[Desr]

Aren't they too big for LST? I had assumed I had missed my window to do it.

ideally, yes you want to start young, but you can still do it gradually.. so they can all get on the same page before the switch. best of luck!

 

[hotrodharley]

Are you suggesting siliconing the stem, like caulking silicone?

No. Here's a link.

http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/training-center/role-of-silicon-in-plant-culture/

 

[DigitalTorture]

Why hasnt anyone considered the obvious? It looks male.

 

[hotrodharley]

Marijuana is a grass. Related to bamboo in the same botanical order. Rice and other grasses need a LOT of silicon and it's only taken up by the plants in one form.

 

[hotrodharley]

Why hasnt anyone considered the obvious? It looks male.

Exactly which image contains the one you are certain is male?

 

[DigitalTorture]

The long stretchy one. Lmao, they all look stretchy. In my experience, when growing from a seed, males almost always grow super fast and stretch like crazy.

 

[hotrodharley]

I see nothing indicating either is a male.Plants with sativa can really stretch. His might be a pheno with that characteristic. Light distance can make some strains stretch as well. Again especially the sativas or sativa dominant strains.

 

[TheLemon]

They're from feminized seeds so I doubt they're males, they're stretchy because I've let them grow too long I think. the smaller one isnt stretchy, its stalks are just really weak.

No. Here's a link.

http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/training-center/role-of-silicon-in-plant-culture/

Thanks for that info btw dude

The fruit spirit strain is sativa dominant 60/40 hence the streching

 

[Desr]

The long stretchy one. Lmao, they all look stretchy. In my experience, when growing from a seed, males almost always grow super fast and stretch like crazy.

stretching has more to do with light placement, heat (among other issues) if you have your light too high it will stretch it out..if as a seedling you didnt keep the light close enough,.. thats a factor. plus in the first few weeks of flowering youll see the "stretch" where alot of plants can double or more in height. stretching isnt gender specific.

 

[DigitalTorture]

stretching has more to do with light placement, heat (among other issues) if you have your light too high it will stretch it out..if as a seedling you didnt keep the light close enough,.. thats a factor. plus in the first few weeks of flowering youll see the "stretch" where alot of plants can double or more in height. stretching isnt gender specific.

I disagree man. Every male I've seen is lanky as hell.

 

[Desr]

k. this isnt an opinion. this is fact. just sayin.

 

[DigitalTorture]

k. this isnt an opinion. this is fact. just sayin.

Well you are for sure right about stretching being mainly caused by light placement. There is no argument about that. And I'm not saying that if you have a lanky plant that it's guaranteed to be male. It's just an observation of mine. What I usually do when growing from seed and I notice a stretching plant, is put it off to the side and treat it as I would the other plants. I let them flower and see what happens. I'd say that I've been right about the sex 90% of the time. To me it's a good warning sign.

 

[Desr]

ok, to everyone else.. preflowers are a good sign..lol