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Alienwidow

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A discolored leaf or two, but overall I'm happy with this guy. I'm hoping that he gets that from genetics more than from my Liquid Gold as I plan on using him for breeding stock.
Thats a pretty piss poor showing of what your pee powers pushing. Did you notice all the deformation on the leaf edges? Im not sure that would be a good choice for pollen chucking. All i see is some piss colored leaves, jagged deformations, and just a sickly looking plant. Ya ever think of putting down the penis and getting some real nutrients? I mean if you want to convince me of pee power this isnt showering me with confidence.
 

Lord Kanti

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Thats a pretty piss poor showing of what your pee powers pushing. Did you notice all the deformation on the leaf edges? Im not sure that would be a good choice for pollen chucking. All i see is some piss colored leaves, jagged deformations, and just a sickly looking plant. Ya ever think of putting down the penis and getting some real nutrients? I mean if you want to convince me of pee power this isnt showering me with confidence.
It smells like orange and ginger, and I find the foliage fuller compared to other males. I believe that it has potential, plus it was unfazed by 110° F weather.
 

Alienwidow

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It smells like orange and ginger, and I find the foliage fuller compared to other males. I believe that it has potential, plus it was unfazed by 110° F weather.
The other ones are worse? So all the plants are worse than the raggedy yellowing one, ok so what fertilizer are you using again? Maybe its time for a change? Flush the pee and get real food?
 

Lord Kanti

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The other ones are worse? So all the plants are worse than the raggedy yellowing one, ok so what fertilizer are you using again? Maybe its time for a change? Flush the pee and get real food?
Compared to some breeder videos I've watched. They were leggy, limey, and sparsely populated with leaves. I need hearty genetics that can survive summer heatwaves.
 

Alienwidow

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Compared to some breeder videos I've watched. They were leggy, limey, and sparsely populated with leaves. I need hearty genetics that can survive summer heatwaves.
Did you try african strains? Or jamaican? Or not using pee? Whats the facination with the pee? Its different every time in terms of whats in it, it has ammonia, its ph is off, and its gross. Why when like i said earlier, ten gallons of max sea mixed water is 13 cents. And its easier to use, more reliable, and if you spill it you wont be covered in pee?
 

Lord Kanti

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Did you try african strains? Or jamaican? Or not using pee? Whats the facination with the pee? Its different every time in terms of whats in it, it has ammonia, its ph is off, and its gross. Why when like i said earlier, ten gallons of max sea mixed water is 13 cents. And its easier to use, more reliable, and if you spill it you wont be covered in pee?
I've thought about trying African, but I picked up some other genetics instead.

By using urine I have control over what I eat, thus having control over what I feed my plants. The ratio isn't high enough to concern me, and I feel that my microbes will do a good job of breaking down the urine further for the plants. I also use kelp and fish emulsion, but as far as LOW cost nutrients go, you can't do much better than free (urine, wood ash) and molasses.
 

Alienwidow

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I've thought about trying African, but I picked up some other genetics instead.

By using urine I have control over what I eat, thus having control over what I feed my plants. The ratio isn't high enough to concern me, and I feel that my microbes will do a good job of breaking down the urine further for the plants. I also use kelp and fish emulsion, but as far as LOW cost nutrients go, you can't do much better than free (urine, wood ash) and molasses.
heres a quote from the max sea web site....This completely balanced formula of Maxsea is comprised of primary plant foods nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium. A full spectrum of important secondary elements and micronutrients provide sulfur, boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum and zinc. The seaweed granules in Maxsea contain over 60 recognized elements all found to be beneficial to plants. All components are in a concentrated water-soluble form that goes to work immediately for fast acting immediate results.

Ok so If max sea provides all that to the plant and its that cheap, then why would anyone waste the time pissin around with with wood ash, getting dirty, and piss, gettin piss hands, and then mix all that crap with some sugar you say and let it ferment for a bit eh? Then deal with it?? Wash out the piss container when your done storing and fermenting your own pee. All to save what? 10 cents per 10 gallons of water? So for 1000 gallons were talking thirteen dollars. How much molasses do you need for 1000 gallons of your mix? Id bet your paying more in molasses than i spend on my max sea...and no pee. Plus i get a plant food designed for plants. Not just whatever squirts out of my pecker today, and no extra added salt. (Ok i finally googled this) the only real draw back i found in my one minute google sesh was adding salt and the smell, oh and going "there". I mean seriously, you cant un see things, and you cant un fill your shoe from pee wine thats splashed in there. And i know one thing, when i water....i get wet.

But seriously, the proof is in the pudding. For a couple cents in savings theres no way in hell that ill ever start using pee for my plants, as long as were living in a civilized one. If shit hits the fan and zombies start taking over ill gladly save gallons of my pee in reused bottles and store it for as long as i have to. Bit seriously, whats the real results? Wheres the plants you stand so proudly behind? (Peeing on them) wheres the pudding? Show me some results. That weak little male looks terrible man. And id bet you ammended the hell out of your soil before you put it in the bags or holes? So lets see how ya did with the pee, ya got a pretty female to show off? Heres one of mine from a couple weeks back. My first outdoor grow, max sea fertilizer. Thats it. Dirt bought from the local nurserys green house blend. That plant is gonna cost me 45 dollars in dirt, and 18 in fertilizer. If you can do this with less than 65 bucks why mess with pee? And id bet your dirt is way more expensive than mine per yard. So cummon. Show me a real plant you fed with pee. image.jpeg
 

Lord Kanti

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heres a quote from the max sea web site....This completely balanced formula of Maxsea is comprised of primary plant foods nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium. A full spectrum of important secondary elements and micronutrients provide sulfur, boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum and zinc. The seaweed granules in Maxsea contain over 60 recognized elements all found to be beneficial to plants. All components are in a concentrated water-soluble form that goes to work immediately for fast acting immediate results.

Ok so If max sea provides all that to the plant and its that cheap, then why would anyone waste the time pissin around with with wood ash, getting dirty, and piss, gettin piss hands, and then mix all that crap with some sugar you say and let it ferment for a bit eh? Then deal with it?? Wash out the piss container when your done storing and fermenting your own pee. All to save what? 10 cents per 10 gallons of water? So for 1000 gallons were talking thirteen dollars. How much molasses do you need for 1000 gallons of your mix? Id bet your paying more in molasses than i spend on my max sea...and no pee. Plus i get a plant food designed for plants. Not just whatever squirts out of my pecker today, and no extra added salt. (Ok i finally googled this) the only real draw back i found in my one minute google sesh was adding salt and the smell, oh and going "there". I mean seriously, you cant un see things, and you cant un fill your shoe from pee wine thats splashed in there. And i know one thing, when i water....i get wet.

But seriously, the proof is in the pudding. For a couple cents in savings theres no way in hell that ill ever start using pee for my plants, as long as were living in a civilized one. If shit hits the fan and zombies start taking over ill gladly save gallons of my pee in reused bottles and store it for as long as i have to. Bit seriously, whats the real results? Wheres the plants you stand so proudly behind? (Peeing on them) wheres the pudding? Show me some results. That weak little male looks terrible man. And id bet you ammended the hell out of your soil before you put it in the bags or holes? So lets see how ya did with the pee, ya got a pretty female to show off? Heres one of mine from a couple weeks back. My first outdoor grow, max sea fertilizer. Thats it. Dirt bought from the local nurserys green house blend. That plant is gonna cost me 45 dollars in dirt, and 18 in fertilizer. If you can do this with less than 65 bucks why mess with pee? And id bet your dirt is way more expensive than mine per yard. So cummon. Show me a real plant you fed with pee. View attachment 3507605
That's rather impressive, what sized pot/bag are you using? My plants are tiny in comparison. Can max sea be use in hydro?
 

Alienwidow

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Those holes are six feet across and three feet deep. And i dont think that max sea works in hydro because since its derived from organic matter it would probably cause root slime eventually. I really had no idea theyd get as big as they did really. That ones probably ten feet high by probably the same wide. That metal post is seven feet high. All that production from maybe 18 bucks in food and a yard of dirt. I see no reason to try and save money by resorting to urine when theres prodcuts like max sea out there that are plant specific and only cost 7.5 cents per five gallons of water (you do have to mix it yourself though) ;)
 

the chin

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Had a cat use to piss in a particular plant when vegging outside.... Ended up one of my best plants to date....never seen roots like it before or since
Peace dudes
 

Alienwidow

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Had a cat use to piss in a particular plant when vegging outside.... Ended up one of my best plants to date....never seen roots like it before or since
Peace dudes
You should bottle that shit. It must have been the cat piss that made the plant grow so well huh?....... Life fail. Baaaaahahahahahahaaaaa!

Duhh, my cat peed on my plant ftw. :wall:
 

Lord Kanti

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Those holes are six feet across and three feet deep. And i dont think that max sea works in hydro because since its derived from organic matter it would probably cause root slime eventually. I really had no idea theyd get as big as they did really. That ones probably ten feet high by probably the same wide. That metal post is seven feet high. All that production from maybe 18 bucks in food and a yard of dirt. I see no reason to try and save money by resorting to urine when theres prodcuts like max sea out there that are plant specific and only cost 7.5 cents per five gallons of water (you do have to mix it yourself though) ;)
What sized bucket of food and how much?

I'm curious to see how it would run in 5 gallon pots.
 

TheChemist77

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i used to have a 150 gallon fish tank and every week i would drain 20 gallons and use it in my garden,, i had the biggest tomatoes and buds i ever seen before or since.. i had only preditor fish and a plucasamuss i would put in 2 dozen minows a week for food.. if i had kept the fish tank id still use it today,, i believe its called aquaponics?
 

chuck estevez

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i used to have a 150 gallon fish tank and every week i would drain 20 gallons and use it in my garden,, i had the biggest tomatoes and buds i ever seen before or since.. i had only preditor fish and a plucasamuss i would put in 2 dozen minows a week for food.. if i had kept the fish tank id still use it today,, i believe its called aquaponics?
not really, aquaponics would be plants living in the same tank as the fish, or water that is used from the tank, filtered, then sent back to the tank. You're just watering with good nutrient rich water.
 

Alienwidow

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i used to have a 150 gallon fish tank and every week i would drain 20 gallons and use it in my garden,, i had the biggest tomatoes and buds i ever seen before or since.. i had only preditor fish and a plucasamuss i would put in 2 dozen minows a week for food.. if i had kept the fish tank id still use it today,, i believe its called aquaponics?
Chucks right. Yor* running the same idea as aquaponics with out the recirculating system, but damn fish tank water is great for plants. I have a friend who does the same thing from his piranha tank and his veggie garden is stellar.
 

Alienwidow

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What sized bucket of food and how much?

I'm curious to see how it would run in 5 gallon pots.
Its a three gallon bucket of the 16-16-16 all purpose. I get it special ordered from my hydro shop and they charge me 130. Theres a couple guys on the site that run it you may have heard of, garden boss, double j, uncle buck. With all those guys on the same page i figured id give it a shot and im happy with it so far. And ya, it works indoors too from what ive seen from those guys....and itll last you forevaaar. Plus it sounds like its right on track with the seaweed and stinky fish emulsion you run already.
 

Lord Kanti

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Its a three gallon bucket of the 16-16-16 all purpose. I get it special ordered from my hydro shop and they charge me 130. Theres a couple guys on the site that run it you may have heard of, garden boss, double j, uncle buck. With all those guys on the same page i figured id give it a shot and im happy with it so far. And ya, it works indoors too from what ive seen from those guys....and itll last you forevaaar. Plus it sounds like its right on track with the seaweed and stinky fish emulsion you run already.
And you do the 16-16-16 from start to chop?
 

Alienwidow

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And you do the 16-16-16 from start to chop?
Pretty much. I added some free tester bottles of bloom food at the end and lowered the max sea a bit but that was right after i took that picture. I run grow food almost all the way. I finnish it up with higher pk feeding. It works. They stay green and healthy.
 
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