best reasonably priced nutrients?

SmokyLungs

SmokyLungs

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209 Cali closet grower said:
Easy way to tell, is look at your sink or shower. You see white rings, you got hard water. Which means you have cal, and I'm sure mag. Just Google your water
Quality report in your towen. Should tell you. Here mine
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My calcium levels in the 35 range and magnesium 12 range is that enough?
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Alienwidow said:
And as for potentially wastefull....who frickin cares. Its a bottle of calmag..maybe 20 bucks compared to a calcium deficiency happening week one of flower and all the leaves yellowing and yield goes in the shitter...priceless. Ya figure that spraying for PM and bugs that arent even there yet as a preventitive is wasteful too? How about a green house? Wasteful? You dont know if youd get bud rot from the rain but you still spent all those thousands on it right? Wasteful!!!
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•Your grammar is atrocious.

•You fail to heed forum rules.

•You can't cite anything to back up your claims.

•You haven't a clue when it comes to utilizing information.

If he lives in a developed western nation and utilizes city water, the utility has to test the water and post the contents publicly. Rather than understand his available nutrient content, you'd rather him A/ not even know what's being fed to his plants B/ blindly add nutrients that he may or may not need.

Urine and wood ash have been a staple ingredient in fertilization since the dawn of the agricultural revolution. One would have to be living under a rock to not comprehend such basic gardening knowledge; then again, one would also have to have been pretty isolated from any knowledge source to make it to adulthood and still not know the difference between "your" and "you're"...

Also: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-urine-is-an-effective-fertilizer/
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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SmokyLungs said:
My calcium levels in the 35 range and magnesium 12 range is that enough?
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What about CaCO3 ? Also look up and check if plants can uptake CaCO3 or if it's unavailable to them for whatever reason. Your magnesium level is significantly higher than mine, but I don't know exactly how much magnesium you can encourage a plant to eat before it's just runoff.
 
SmokyLungs

SmokyLungs

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Lord Kanti said:
What about CaCO3 ? Also look up and check if plants can uptake CaCO3 or if it's unavailable to them for whatever reason. Your magnesium level is significantly higher than mine, but I don't know exactly how much magnesium you can encourage a plant to eat before it's just runoff.
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What do u mean by uptake?and for some reason in my report there is two results for caco3 alkalinity which ranges from 110-120 and hardness which ranges between 141-147
 
GOLDBERG71

GOLDBERG71

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Dyna gro. The only thing to be aware of is that bloom doesn't have enough N early in flower. My suggestion would be to continue to use grow or foliage pro throughout the stretch and until actual flowers begin to show. Not just the occasional white hair. After that increase the bloom and decrease the grow. Just watch the leaves and if the start to fade swap 1/4 bloom dose with foliage pro to give it a shot N.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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Lord Kanti said:
•Your grammar is atrocious.

•You fail to heed forum rules.

•You can't cite anything to back up your claims.

•You haven't a clue when it comes to utilizing information.

If he lives in a developed western nation and utilizes city water, the utility has to test the water and post the contents publicly. Rather than understand his available nutrient content, you'd rather him A/ not even know what's being fed to his plants B/ blindly add nutrients that he may or may not need.

Urine and wood ash have been a staple ingredient in fertilization since the dawn of the agricultural revolution. One would have to be living under a rock to not comprehend such basic gardening knowledge; then again, one would also have to have been pretty isolated from any knowledge source to make it to adulthood and still not know the difference between "your" and "you're"...

Also: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-urine-is-an-effective-fertilizer/
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Fuck grammar. Oh your using little dots, ok i will too.

*fuck grammar, grammar and spelling have jack to do with growing, unless your* chuck. @chuck estevez . Then if you dont put a comma in the right spot a plant dies in you're* flower room like tinkerbell dies when you STOP BELIEVING.

* form rules? Stating that urine is a horrible idea is a fact. Im keeping the integrity of the site up by calling you a dumb ass....if that is what you're* talking about. And if your really growing weed with piss and wood ash..... I dont know, really i dont know what to say, theres no help for you. Fall down a well. Please. Just go away from here and stop preaching about piss and wood ash, or at least go shoot the shit with fin shaggy on his threads ya dumb ass. Theres entire stores that sell fertilizer in bottles, pee goes in the toilet.

*cite anything to back up my claims? Im not going to bother googleing for you. Theres plenty of reasons nobody hikes up their skirt and pisses in the weed. Youll find them on the internet if you look. #1 is that its gross, #2 is the smell, and if that wasnt enough and you need more reasons, then theres always that well waiting for you to fall into it.

*i cant utilize info? Man the only info you need is on the back of a bucket of max sea. Im not going to feed my plants the coors light im pissing out this morning because i drank so much whiskey last night. And if i can make 10000 gallons of water with one bucket of max sea for 130 bucks, so like ten gallons is thirteen cents, then ill splurge and pay the thirteen cents rather than collecting wood ash and my own pee....n00b.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Alienwidow said:
Fuck grammar. Oh your using little dots, ok i will too.

*fuck grammar, grammar and spelling have jack to do with growing, unless your* chuck. @chuck estevez . Then if you dont put a comma in the right spot a plant dies in you're* flower room like tinkerbell dies when you STOP BELIEVING.

* form rules? Stating that urine is a horrible idea is a fact. Im keeping the integrity of the site up by calling you a dumb ass....if that is what you're* talking about. And if your really growing weed with piss and wood ash..... I dont know, really i dont know what to say, theres no help for you. Fall down a well. Please. Just go away from here and stop preaching about piss and wood ash, or at least go shoot the shit with fin shaggy on his threads ya dumb ass. Theres entire stores that sell fertilizer in bottles, pee goes in the toilet.

*cite anything to back up my claims? Im not going to bother googleing for you. Theres plenty of reasons nobody hikes up their skirt and pisses in the weed. Youll find them on the internet if you look. #1 is that its gross, #2 is the smell, and if that wasnt enough and you need more reasons, then theres always that well waiting for you to fall into it.

*i cant utilize info? Man the only info you need is on the back of a bucket of max sea. Im not going to feed my plants the coors light im pissing out this morning because i drank so much whiskey last night. And if i can make 10000 gallons of water with one bucket of max sea for 130 bucks, so like ten gallons is thirteen cents, then ill splurge and pay the thirteen cents rather than collecting wood ash and my own pee....n00b.
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Thank you for confirming all my points.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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wasn't tryi
Alienwidow said:
Fuck grammar. Oh your using little dots, ok i will too.

*fuck grammar, grammar and spelling have jack to do with growing, unless your* chuck. @chuck estevez . Then if you dont put a comma in the right spot a plant dies in you're* flower room like tinkerbell dies when you STOP BELIEVING.

* form rules? Stating that urine is a horrible idea is a fact. Im keeping the integrity of the site up by calling you a dumb ass....if that is what you're* talking about. And if your really growing weed with piss and wood ash..... I dont know, really i dont know what to say, theres no help for you. Fall down a well. Please. Just go away from here and stop preaching about piss and wood ash, or at least go shoot the shit with fin shaggy on his threads ya dumb ass. Theres entire stores that sell fertilizer in bottles, pee goes in the toilet.

*cite anything to back up my claims? Im not going to bother googleing for you. Theres plenty of reasons nobody hikes up their skirt and pisses in the weed. Youll find them on the internet if you look. #1 is that its gross, #2 is the smell, and if that wasnt enough and you need more reasons, then theres always that well waiting for you to fall into it.

*i cant utilize info? Man the only info you need is on the back of a bucket of max sea. Im not going to feed my plants the coors light im pissing out this morning because i drank so much whiskey last night. And if i can make 10000 gallons of water with one bucket of max sea for 130 bucks, so like ten gallons is thirteen cents, then ill splurge and pay the thirteen cents rather than collecting wood ash and my own pee....n00b.
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wasn't trying to be grammar police, was just pointing out the irony.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Alienwidow said:
cummon lord kant water, lets see how the plants are doing.
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After I finish this steak. In the meantime you have plenty of time to cite a few scientific publications to back up your claims that urine is great for fertilizing plants, except of course for cannabis.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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Lord Kanti said:
After I finish this steak. In the meantime you have plenty of time to cite a few scientific publications to back up your claims that urine is great for fertilizing plants, except of course for cannabis.
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Dude im familiar with the fact that shit and piss make food for plants. When i was looking into the ingredients in plant foods like five years or so ago i googled ureaic acid or whatever its called and found that its like the most commonly used fertilizer in the world. But im pretty sure that they dont use animal piss anymore. I seem to recall that they have refined the approch and are synthesizing a chemical form of the pee that is much easier to work with. And much less nasty. Its been a while since i checked wiki on it so maybe im wrong. Maybe theres a million cows peeing into tanker trucks and then thats how we get fertilizer but i doubt it. We make and use fertilizer thats made by professionals in labs and factories....because pee is gross.

So do you pee in your plants?
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Alienwidow said:
Dude im familiar with the fact that shit and piss make food for plants. When i was looking into the ingredients in plant foods like five years or so ago i googled ureaic acid or whatever its called and found that its like the most commonly used fertilizer in the world. But im pretty sure that they dont use animal piss anymore. I seem to recall that they have refined the approch and are synthesizing a chemical form of the pee that is much easier to work with. And much less nasty. Its been a while since i checked wiki on it so maybe im wrong. Maybe theres a million cows peeing into tanker trucks and then thats how we get fertilizer but i doubt it. We make and use fertilizer thats made by professionals in labs and factories....because pee is gross.

So do you pee in your plants?
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I add urine to my compost and my tea. As far as nastiness is concerned, fish emulsion smells much more strongly than urine. The compost is still being fed, but in the meantime it produces black solider fly larvae regularly that is also a food product. By not flushing my piss down the toilet, as you've suggested I have:

•Saved water
•Saved electricity
•Reduced my carbon footprint
•Enriched my soil
•Fed my plants
•Fed my animals.

Not only would I not accomplish that by purchasing laboratory fertilizers and flushing my urine, but I'd be supporting the expansion of another entity's footprint at an industrial scale. Also, I get to keep money in my pocket that can go to other aspects of the agricultural endeavor.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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Lord Kanti said:
I add urine to my compost and my tea. As far as nastiness is concerned, fish emulsion smells much more strongly than urine. The compost is still being fed, but in the meantime it produces black solider fly larvae regularly that is also a food product. By not flushing my piss down the toilet, as you've suggested I have:

•Saved water
•Saved electricity
•Reduced my carbon footprint
•Enriched my soil
•Fed my plants
•Fed my animals.

Not only would I not accomplish that by purchasing laboratory fertilizers and flushing my urine, but I'd be supporting the expansion of another entity's footprint at an industrial scale. Also, I get to keep money in my pocket that can go to other aspects of the agricultural endeavor.
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I like how youve put all those dots next to your stuff. Cool man. Did you spill any of the pee water on your hand while you watered? I bet ya did ;) i bet ya peed on your hand. For thirteen whole cents you could never worry about your own pee again. Whatever hippy, rock on man. Piss party.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Alienwidow said:
I like how youve put all those dots next to your stuff. Cool man. Did you spill any of the pee water on your hand while you watered? I bet ya did ;) i bet ya peed on your hand. For thirteen whole cents you could never worry about your own pee again. Whatever hippy, rock on man. Piss party.
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Sometimes the fertilizer splashes and gets on my foot. Sometimes that happens at a urinal, but as long as it's my own piss Ricocheting off and not the guy next to me, then whatever. At home the emulsified fish on me can be gross, but I wash my hands and feet in the tub after fertilizing.
 
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