EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

pnwmystery

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gonna go beat my meat just to not let the man keep me down!
LOL in all seriousness great points @pnwmystery
@Uncle Ben when do you believe life starts? I guess thats the real question, because if it is moment of conception then we already might as well drop it because in all reality it is none of our business what a women does with her body.
Hahaha, but yes I completely agree with that last part.

@Uncle Ben Really, I'm waiting to see what you have to say beyond "Uhm, uhm, uhm, what about a third term abortion? Huh? What about that?" There are a multitude of reasons to have an abortion at any stage, and if you want your "small limited freedom fearing government," then why the hell do you suddenly want it to interfere in a couple's choice to have abortion? That is such a gross flip flop, the only reason why is once again some weird religiously overtone argument.

"Keep off my money! No taxation! Stop spying on me! Stay out of my way! Oh fuck women, they can't think for themselves and the government should tell them what they can and cannot do with their bodies." The mental gymnastics alone could get you into the olympics.
 
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ttystikk

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Hahaha, but yes I completely agree with that last part.

@Uncle Ben Really, I'm waiting to see what you have to say beyond "Uhm, uhm, uhm, what about a third term abortion? Huh? What about that?" There are a multitude of reasons to have an abortion at any stage, and if you want your "small limited freedom fearing government," then why the hell do you suddenly want it to interfere in a couple's choice to have abortion? That is such a gross flip flop, the only reason why is once again some weird religiously overtone argument.

"Keep off my money! No taxation! Stop spying on me! Stay out of my way! Oh fuck women, they can't think for themselves and the government should tell them what they can and cannot do with their bodies." The mental gymnastics alone could get you into the olympics.
Nah. They simply accept what they're being fed, without thinking. No gymnastics necessary for the feeble minded.
 

pnwmystery

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They didn't invent the polio vaccine you fucking pleb, they simply grew it on fetal kidney tissue.

If only some of you morons concentrated less on the self-righteousness and a little more on basic reading skills/comprehension.
I'm the pleb?

Growing a polio in a human cell paved the way to the polio vaccine being created by Jonas Salk. Jonas Salk used the Enders-Weller-Robbins (HINT: Enders, Weller, and Robbins won the 1954 Nobel prize for this, what was aforementioned in the article.) technique to make the vaccine.

"Thirteen years after Sabin and Olitsky’s success with growing poliovirus in brain tissue, researchers at the lab of John Enders at the Children’s Hospital in Boston successfully grew the virus in a culture of skin and muscle tissue from a human embryo....

They went on to grow two other strains of poliovirus, and in many different types of human embryonic tissue, without using nervous system tissue. They were able to grow the virus rapidly and to very high concentrations using the “roller tube” apparatus created by researcher George Otto Gey in the 1930s....

The researchers in Enders’s lab used the same technique, growing poliovirus much more rapidly than could be achieved in static flasks. For demonstrating that poliovirus could be reliably grown without using nervous tissue, Enders and his colleagues Thomas Weller and Frederick Robbins were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1954.

Their discovery proved to be the breakthrough needed to develop a polio vaccine. In 1951, Jonas Salk and his colleagues at the University of Pittsburgh found that poliovirus could also be propagated on a large scale in monkey kidney cells."
 

Harrekin

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I'm the pleb?

Growing a polio in a human cell paved the way to the polio vaccine being created by Jonas Salk. Jonas Salk used the Enders-Weller-Robbins (HINT: Enders, Weller, and Robbins won the 1954 Nobel prize for this, what was aforementioned in the article.) technique to make the vaccine.

"Thirteen years after Sabin and Olitsky’s success with growing poliovirus in brain tissue, researchers at the lab of John Enders at the Children’s Hospital in Boston successfully grew the virus in a culture of skin and muscle tissue from a human embryo....

They went on to grow two other strains of poliovirus, and in many different types of human embryonic tissue, without using nervous system tissue. They were able to grow the virus rapidly and to very high concentrations using the “roller tube” apparatus created by researcher George Otto Gey in the 1930s....

The researchers in Enders’s lab used the same technique, growing poliovirus much more rapidly than could be achieved in static flasks. For demonstrating that poliovirus could be reliably grown without using nervous tissue, Enders and his colleagues Thomas Weller and Frederick Robbins were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1954.

Their discovery proved to be the breakthrough needed to develop a polio vaccine. In 1951, Jonas Salk and his colleagues at the University of Pittsburgh found that poliovirus could also be propagated on a large scale in monkey kidney cells."
Penis.

Therefore, I win.
 

schuylaar

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there is still a middle class, it's just not as strong as it has been in the past. We need elected representatives who care about us, instead of CAIR about us
your plants need more N, puppet.

<all riu growers eyes on your shitty plants now>

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schuylaar

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If you think conservative policies are the way forward, you're very deeply mistaken. Those policies are how we arrived aft the current disaster. It's happened before; the Crash of '29 and the Great Depression are the result of the same policies. Dismantling the fixes enacted by our grandparents has led straight to the current debacle, only now the banks and billionaires have given themselves the power to buy elections at will.

I'm just not buying the notion that this is anything to be proud of, and that a prescription like the one Bernie Sanders is laying out is far more likely to restore prosperity to the majority than anything the right is likely to come up with... lie tho they might.
kinda like how they re-upped us with dodd frank..we had to give them back; just to get something like another $1 on SNAP..elizabeth warren is furious over this.
 

schuylaar

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Stop trying to take Bernie seriously. If you had yourself a viable candidate, then I would go back and forth with you all day. But the truth is Bernie has zero chance of winning, and the majority of Americans don't want Socialism. So there you go, he's done. it's over
then why are you here? i don't make a habit of posting loser thread topics..go back to the power hour(s); it starts at 9.
 

schuylaar

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Here's his record which is NOT admirable. http://www.sanders.senate.gov/legislation/voting-record

Any one that would promote abortion of a child past the 20th week term when it clearly feels pain has got to be one sick sonabitch.
On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed H.R. 36
A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to protect pain-capable unborn children, and for other purposes.
NAY

And of course in light of the Planned Parenthood scandal, the selling of body parts as some helpless child writhes in pain on an operating table, he voted against that bill to stop Federal funding of this worthless bunch. I DO NOT want my tax dollars going to a bunch of sick butchers.

He's another liberal piece of shit. Thank God he stands no chance of being elected.
how much pain did you feel at 20 weeks in-utero, ben?

thank you for going through his complete life's voting record; finding something that 'appears' off.

care to dig a bit deeper on this vote or shall i?

so worried about in-utero..what happens when righties' kids are born?

easy..mugshots..i wonder if any pain is involved?

i wonder if the dog that john huckabee tortured to death felt any?

your children are a direct reflection of who you are..don't like what you see? you sucked as a parent..YOU FAILED..and you will surely suck as president!
 
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schuylaar

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Go ahead and grab the clip carly fiorino was talking about when she desccribed the scene you mention.
Go ahead, I will wait. Find the holy grail while you are at it lol. Cus that shit doesnt exist, she greatly exaggerated the contents of thsoe videos....

Fyi planned parenthood does much more than abortions, thats not even a significant portion of the care they provide... but keep labelling them as a bunch of baby butchers, dont expect you to realize the gravity of defunding a major healthcare provider considering you think people should choose between a hot meal or their medicine.
fiorina? who needs abortion services when you eat your own?
 

schuylaar

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Oh goodie, you're quoting Breitbarf.

"We also asked experts in the use of human tissue for research about the potential for profit. Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository,” told us that “there’s no way there’s a profit at that price.” She continued in an email:

Sawyer, July 20: In reality, $30-100 probably constitutes a loss for [Planned Parenthood]. The costs associated with collection, processing, storage, and inventory and records management for specimens are very high. Most hospitals will provide tissue blocks from surgical procedures (ones no longer needed for clinical purposes, and without identity) for research, and cost recover for their time and effort in the range of $100-500 per case/block. In the realm of tissues for research $30-100 is completely reasonable and normal fee."
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But immediately after this statement, Nucatola goes on to say: “Really their bottom line is, they want to break even. Every penny they save is just pennies they give to another patient. To provide a service the patient wouldn’t get.” Planned Parenthood told us that she may have been referring to more general operations of the clinics.

Richards, the Planned Parenthood president, said in a video response to the controversy: “The allegation that Planned Parenthood profits in any way from tissue donation is not true.”
On July 21, the Center for Medical Progress released a second, similar video, again featuring a discussion with a Planned Parenthood official in a restaurant. The numbers mentioned in the edited video are similar to what Nucatola said. The official, Mary Gatter, quotes a rate of $75 per specimen, and says she was thinking of saying $50. The discussion only reaches $100 because the “buyers” in the video mention higher prices. At one point, Gatter says that “we’re not in this for the money,” and later she reiterates that “money is not the important thing.”

Though few studies of costs associated with fetal tissue acquisition are available, existing evidence does suggest the prices named in the video are in line with general practices. The National Institutes of Health conducts research with fetal tissue, and in the late 1990s, the Government Accountability Office (then known as the General Accounting Office) looked into the acquisition of such tissue, finding that the direct cost to researchers was “low.” GAO said payments primarily went to “central tissue suppliers,” as opposed to health clinics. In most cases, GAO found that clinics did not charge researchers, but when they did, the cost ranged from $2 to $75. The report did not address how much clinics might have received from central tissue suppliers, which is more analogous to the situation presented in the video."

So what do you think about your little Dr. Ben Carson doing the exact same damn thing in the 90s and now he's so anti PP?

"Historically, the use of fetal tissue has produced some groundbreaking scientific discoveries. According to the American Society for Cell Biology, a nonprofit representing a large and varied group of scientists, “Fetal cells hold unique promise for biomedical research due to their ability to rapidly divide, grow, and adapt to new environments. This makes fetal tissue research relevant to a wide variety of diseases and medical conditions.”

According to the Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit focused on sexual and reproductive health, tissue from fetuses has been used since the 1930s for a variety of purposes. Perhaps most famously, the 1954 Nobel Prize in medicine was awarded to researchers who managed to grow polio vaccine in fetal kidney cell cultures.

In another example, Leonard Hayflick created a cell line from an aborted fetus in the early 1960s that has been used to create vaccines against measles, rubella, shingles and other diseases. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, told the journal Nature in 2013 that “[t]hese cells from one fetus have no doubt saved the lives of millions of people.”"

Look at that. The POLIO VACCINE came from this practice. Let that sink in. The. polio. vaccine. And from another source...

"The donation of aborted human fetal tissue may come as a shock to a public unfamiliar with the practice but it is, in fact, a longstanding one. According to the American Society for Cell Biology, scientists have been researching human fetal tissue since the 1930s, with aborted tissue playing a part in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s development of the rubella and varicella vaccines in the 1960s. Ronald Reagan put a hold on using fetal tissue for transplants in 1988 while other forms of fetal tissue research continued and Bill Clinton subsequently lifted Reagan’s moratorium in 1993."

Is this too much for you to read? Let me know because I'm beginning to question your ability to think critically beyond BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI.

i'm thinking we should just have polio back to ease ben's mind..
 

schuylaar

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There is literally no argument you can make against this without wrapping it in some judeo-christian psuedo-science bullshit, because if you say "LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION," you might as well make ejaculating anywhere else than inside a woman illegal because technically a male's sperm is alive, it carries the male's genes. Now, do you really want your precious small limited government that doesn't interfere with your day to day life telling you or anyone else that they can't masturbate? A completely natural thing that everyone does?
+rep:clap:

standing ovation

shhhhhhhhh..they haven't figured this out yet..ovum is nothing but a cell..swimmers on the other hand are..well..they swim so..they must have a brain..they swim..how could you swim without?

'they' might even start telling you how many 'tissues' you can use in a day for your 'live feed'..:hump:
 
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schuylaar

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gonna go beat my meat just to not let the man keep me down!
LOL in all seriousness great points @pnwmystery
@Uncle Ben when do you believe life starts? I guess thats the real question, because if it is moment of conception then we already might as well drop it because in all reality it is none of our business what a women does with her body.
but the bible tells us it's their business..everything about a woman is their business.
 

Uncle Ben

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stupid is as stupid does

I don't want the Feds stealing my money and using it for Planned Parenthood. Their practices of selling and bidding child body parts is disgusting. That's the issue dumbnuts.
 

schuylaar

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stupid is as stupid does

I don't want the Feds stealing my money and using it for Planned Parenthood. Their practices of selling and bidding child body parts is disgusting. That's the issue dumbnuts.
now follow along here..

they already tax you and you pay the bill..it's the 1% that pays NOTHING:wall:

YOU ARE US!!! YOU ARE NOT THEM!!!..'they' make you think you are THEM, in it together because bible! 'they' are as bad as those who run the church scam..'they' just do this on the corporate end. 'they' have you fighting for the taxes 'they' don't pay..but what about you?

THEIR tax rate: -45% Uncle Ben's tax rate: <insert here>

does it look the same, ben?

 
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Uncle Ben

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now follow along here..

they already tax you and you pay the bill..it's the 1% that pays NOTHING:wall:

YOU ARE US!!! YOU ARE NOT THEM!!!..'they' make you think you are THEM, in it together because bible! 'they' are as bad as those who run the church scam..'they' just do this on the corporate end. 'they' have you fighting for the taxes 'they' don't pay..but what about you?

You and your stupid liberal 1% bullshit.

Sorry, but that dog don't hunt.

Since you take rather than give, this issue doesn't affect you, does it? Still unemployed? Getting a little chunky watching old Oprah re-runs and going thru chips and beer?
 

schuylaar

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You and your stupid liberal 1% bullshit.

Sorry, but that dog don't hunt.

Since you take rather than give, this issue doesn't affect you, does it? Still unemployed? Getting a little chunky watching old Oprah re-runs and going thru chips and beer?
thank you for the intelligent rebuttal..solve for x..x=you

equation:

-45 + x = 100%
 
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