Need help growing indoor
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Teerouven
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i germinated 35 only 27 sprouted and it is 3 week ago
Teerouven
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hps i can't use them as it is not easy to find here (mauritius grower)and i was planning on using fluoresent guy can i get them to grow with 2000 watt
Trynax
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You mean fluorescent as in cfl? And it really depends more on the lumens than watts to determine how good the growth will be
Teerouven
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ok i am thinking of using about 4000w of cfl bulb and i am cracking a window for air and a fan for air culation and temp..wwill that be ok
Diabolical666
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I bet your electric panel cant handle it...have you considered that? plus all your fans etc
Trynax
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yea it depends on how much your electrical panel can take
GOLDBERG71
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That should have been taken in to account before you germinated those seeds. Unless you plan on tossing the extras. Because that's your choice. Either give the 27 the light they need. Or pick out what you can afford and that will tell you how many plants to toss.
GOLDBERG71
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With 27 plants the last thing I'd be using is cfl of fluorescent for anything other than germination. HID all the way!
Teerouven
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apart from HID what can i use ...because i don't have the ballast for the bulb
GOLDBERG71
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Well I can't help you there. I think you have big dreams and all I can tell you is each plant needs a certain amount of light. You're starting with plants. And there's only one way to balance that equation. POWER. Anything other than HID only means you need ALOT more of whatever you choose to use. A 2 foot X 4 foot T5 fixture will cost close to 200 bucks and it will only penetrate so far! Much less than HID. Which mean less of EACH plant under it will receive enough light. The same goes for CFL lighting. I doubt you could finish 2 plants under a single T5 with the size I mentioned. But let's say you can. 27 divided by 2 equals 13.5. Since you can't buy half a fixture I'll round up to 14. 14 times 200 equals 2800 on T5 lighting. Now there's no ballast needed but is that cost effective? My point is the ONLY way to have a plant survive and produce flowers is to give it ENERGY. That comes from the lights or sun. My suggestion is to wait until you can afford the proper light. When money is an issue you can't have your grow ruled by plant numbers. You need to figure what type of operation you want to have or can afford. That design will include a power source and that has to be your limiting factor! Cramming more plants under less light won't increase yield! A 400 watt HID will always out preform 400 watts of CFL for the very simple reason. They put off more power! The only way you'll be able to grow those 27 plants and not put them out side is by spend a good amount of money PERIOD! I know it's not what you want to hear but these are facts we all live by. Honestly for 27 plants I think the least you can get away with is 5 -600 watt HID. BUT with that count and your desire to save money going 1000 watts would save money on bulbs. But cost you in cooling. There's no way around the cost of designing a room UNLESS you are willing to sacrifice quantity as well as quality. I suggest thinking long and hard about the quality of product you want to end up with. Believe me after 3 plus months of caring for them the last thing you want is poor quality. The second worse thing is poor quantity. 27 plants is a big number so much so I don't think you understand.
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mr sunshine
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You need hps or led... Cfl's won't work .
undercovergrow
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so out of the 27, assuming these are regular and not feminized seeds, you should end up with males that you will need to toss and some runts that just aren't keeping up-this will get your numbers down. as others have mentioned, you need enough light for them to all survive and since you're in a country where you can't get HPS, can you get T5s? that is going to be your best bet. i've seen some good grows on here with just T5s. train your final number to make up for the lack of penetration with a low canopy. 
GOLDBERG71
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The more bending that's done to each plant the MORE space that will be required. Which in the end means more light to cover more area. This would increase production as well as quality. But the counter balance of this equation means each plant takes up more area. I'd also suggest staying away from SATIVAS and hybrids. The stretch will only multiply my point about more fixtures. If the plants will be tied down to provide more light to each plant. Each plant might require its own fixture.so out of the 27, assuming these are regular and not feminized seeds, you should end up with males that you will need to toss and some runts that just aren't keeping up-this will get your numbers down. as others have mentioned, you need enough light for them to all survive and since you're in a country where you can't get HPS, can you get T5s? that is going to be your best bet. i've seen some good grows on here with just T5s. train your final number to make up for the lack of penetration with a low canopy.
Like I said you've started out backwards. You need to design the area how ever you see fit for what ever reason you decide. From there you then decide how many plants you can work with! You'll still be unhappy with the number that you can work with. But at least they have what they need. Then you still have to take care of them properly.
GOLDBERG71
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This is very important! Start here or every other thought is irrelevant if the breakers can't handle it. 4000 watts in one room will most likely need an electrical upgrade.
GOLDBERG71
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Not to be an ass but all this should have been planned out and installed before popping a seed.