distraction. that answer is illogical. who else wishes intelligent debate here? anyone?Straight out the Sanders' play book.
GOP debate
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Uncle Ben
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believe....... child.
Uncle Ben
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"Intelligent" debate? There is no debate at RIU, only hate.
Speaking of illogical (and useless).
there is a way to change hate/haters, ben."Intelligent" debate? There is no debate at RIU, only hate.
Speaking of illogical (and useless).
EDIT: just in case
..education. no one wants to take your guns away or tell you who can come to your church picnic..but, keep it at your house..just like i do, mine. publicly (and on the books), we must be equal...as an s-corp aren't you enraged when you have to pay taxes the c-corps do not because they were allowed to purchase this power (which they purchased the power to have the power: lobby/CU decision)? secretly, i bet your mad as a hornet..we all want the same, ben
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Wavels
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I enjoyed the GOP debate. Quite a donnybrook! Very entertaining.
It was fun to see the front-running Trump nonplussed and stupefied...
Too bad the Dems do not have more candidates so that they can put on the same type of freewheeling brouhaha.
I hope Jerry Brown and Uncle Joe declare in time for the initial Oct 13 fun fest!
The more, the merrier!!!
It was fun to see the front-running Trump nonplussed and stupefied...
Too bad the Dems do not have more candidates so that they can put on the same type of freewheeling brouhaha.
I hope Jerry Brown and Uncle Joe declare in time for the initial Oct 13 fun fest!
The more, the merrier!!!
MuyLocoNC
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I'm more than happy to talk about how statists on both sides of the aisle (primarily Democrats) are responsible for our ridiculous progressive tax system that makes exactly what you described, possible.
Enter the flat tax. Solves everything...end of debate. Who's for that? How many Dems? How would they give GE a pass on taxes?
Please don't say it adversely affects the poor, almost every flat tax proposal waives the first $20k or so of income. I'll bet you didn't know that, did you?
love, love the AVI!!!! you are sooooooo funny!!!!
did i just read this right?..the dems are responsible for the tax code?
rather than the distraction you've posted..can you answer my question? as a businessman how does it make you feel knowing c-corps can buy themselves negative effective tax rate and you pay full price? do you not see anything wrong with this concept of paying no taxes at all?
Bugeye
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When you say that C-corps buy themselves negative effective tax rates, what are you referring to? Loss carryforwards? As far as I know that is the thing that explains the majority of negative or zero effective tax rates on profitable periods.did i just read this right?..the dems are responsible for the tax code?
rather than the distraction you've posted..can you answer my question? as a businessman how does it make you feel knowing c-corps can buy themselves negative effective tax rate and you pay full price? do you not see anything wrong with this concept of paying no taxes at all?
yes, citizens for tax justice reports:
CTJ analyzes the pretax U.S. profits, federal taxes paid and effective tax rates of a dozen Fortune 500 companies over the 2008-10 period. From 2008 through 2010, these 12 companies reported $175 billion in pretax U.S. profits. But as a group, their federal income taxes were negative: –$2.4 billion.
http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2011/06/twelve_corporations_pay_effective_tax_rate_of_negative_15_on_171_billion_in_profits_reap_624_billion.php#.VfwpLntubkA
and of course:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax
Rob Roy
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Your blind obedience to your blatant cognitive dissonance is showing. War is a symptom of and derived from force and it occurs in many ways. Bernie is down with forcing people to do lots of things, even people that are behaving peacefully. He thinks when he does that, somehow its okay.still america 'squatch..no one is forcing anyone to vote for bernie.
let's expand on 'force' that bernie has submitted us to?
you may wish to check his voting record before making such an asshat comment.
18 is still legal age..anything less..well..is..ya know
He thinks it's okay to :
a) force people to belong to something he believes they must belong to, even if they disagree
b) purchase things he believes they must purchase, even if they don't want to
c) fund things he believes they must fund, even if they don't use it and don't want it
Your assertion claiming Bernie isn't "warlike" has been refuted. Now go check the mail and don't forget to clean up when you're through.
Rob Roy
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Bernie kicks puppies and forces their mothers to get spayed. How'm I doing?
too many big words..can't figure out the post..guess i'll go wipe my chin and check the mail.
MuyLocoNC
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Did I just read this right? You think Dems aren't responsible for just as much of the current tax code as the Repubs? Do you hear any of them screaming for a flat tax? Of course not, it's hard to provide political favors through the tax code if you're bound by a flat tax.did i just read this right?..the dems are responsible for the tax code?
rather than the distraction you've posted..can you answer my question? as a businessman how does it make you feel knowing c-corps can buy themselves negative effective tax rate and you pay full price? do you not see anything wrong with this concept of paying no taxes at all?
There was no distraction, there was a straightforward answer you don't like. Let me be clear, the ONLY way you end the problem you've described is a flat tax.
Small tweaks to the existing system are meaningless. You're trying to put out the campfire while the cabin is burning down behind you.
I noticed you don't want to address the flat tax because it answers your question and with the "po' folks" waiver amount, there's no way you can cut it down. No more IRS, no more political favors through tax breaks, rich paying their fair share, poor provided a substantial break, easy filing...how awful.
wonder what it was like to have poop slide down the windshield of your family car?
how can someone be so fucking cruel to a beloved family pet?..the one who always greets you at the door gives love when no one else will?
he took off and they never found him..although, the bogus romney approved story is: he went to live on a farm.
n'awwwwwwwww he has his own Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_dog_incident
sure..flat tax..if that will make you happy..not sure if it will make the bbbbbbbbbillionaires happy, though..and that's who we are fighting on this BOTH sides of the aisle..the ESTABLISHMENT..this is not by any means partisan.
Bugeye
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OK, I read the report. Clear as mud. This CTJ org has an agenda and cherry picked 12 companies out of the F500 that had cumulative negative tax payments over a 3 year period. CTJ may have a valid point to make but the methodology used here is ridiculous. My S-corp took minor losses in 2013 and they will be applied to my 2014 profits for tax calculation purposes. I paid no one for this subsidy if that is what they are calling it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a heavily simplified tax code. I'm happy to pay whatever I owe but figuring it all out makes me want to take my life sometimes!
see4
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As I've mentioned before (to your buddies), I, and the rest of the planet, are grateful you, in no way have the capacity to make critical decisions that would effect large demographics of individuals. Your ideas and logic are about as shit-brained as one can get. I am being as honest and sincere as I can possibly be in saying that.
Rob Roy
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wonder what it was like to have poop slide down the windshield of your family car?
how can someone be so fucking cruel to a beloved family pet?..the one who always greets you at the door gives love when no one else will?
he took off and they never found him..although, the bogus romney approved story is: he went to live on a farm.
n'awwwwwwwww he has his own Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_dog_incident
That dog could have made a good living as a licensed "shit eating dog" at Wendy's if only he'd been given a chance. I bet he'd be very happy with minimum wage too.
see4
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You're a "have my cake and eat it too" kind of fella.
Assuming you live on United States soil, you are forced to be protected by our military and laws, even if you don't want it. But I highly suspect you do. Enter the cake.
The notion that you have to play along to get along either flies right over your tiny head or you stubbornly ignore it. In either case, your dissenting opinion of the government and "how it works" is thankfully quite rare, and would never affect policy. Eating it too.