Is this nute burn? humidity problem? or heat issue?

JDGreen

JDGreen

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Hotrodharley.


I think this guy is generally right but the wrong reasons and bad example. Cannabis benefits greatly from human intervention and wild.marijuana sux about half the time compared to indoor. Dont use tap water! Without dechlorinating it WILL KILL YOUR MICROORGANISMS. which are not cheapp to add
 
MrStickyScissors

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hotrodharley said:
I never said water with hard water. Know your source before you start. That is basic chemistry. He's inexperienced enough to ask. KISS. These newer growers get over concerned about trivial facts and it muddles the mind. But people write "I watered with a pH of 5.5 and my runoff was 6.7! Whatever shall I do?"

Stop checking the fucking runoff and learn to read the plant!
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yea, people always jump to their problem being the ph.
 
hotrodharley

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This was outdoors granted. But some of the most asskicking smoke I ever had I collected from a backyard of a deserted house in El Paso, Texas. Short little bitches all over this backyard. They had died about a week before from frost. I was hired to empty the garage of this place. Hundreds of little red plants not over a foot tall. It's well over 100 there many days. No rain. The Jornada del Muerto (The Journey of Death) begins or ends there depending on whether you start in MX or Santa Fe.

The only real water they got was overspray from a neighbor's sprinkler. So, nobody watered them (at least after they came up), no fertilizers,little to no rain and hard as hell water spraying on them just barely. Potent as Hell!

They can live and thrive without us. Try to not help too much. Meaning newer growers here.Sticky Scissors likely has a lot more experience. I'll bet you read the plants more than any meter.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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MrStickyScissors said:
it's pretty easy to ph your water. But to each their own
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I was a dialysis nurse for years. Water WAS my business. Human lives depended on it. We did multiple checks for everything before every shift (4 times during the day and before we opened it and after it closed for a total of 6 batteries of tests that make these described here look like a joke).

Test your source.Test it again the next time.If the pH is even close why waste your time and money checking? Again this is intended for all who read. If you change sources then obviously do a couple of checks. Most undesirable "hardness" in water supplies - MOST - are from calcium (limestone it seeps through seeping down to the aquifer) and magnesium.
 
MrStickyScissors

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hotrodharley said:
I was a dialysis nurse for years. Water WAS my business. Human lives depended on it. We did multiple checks for everything before every shift (4 times during the day and before we opened it and after it closed for a total of 6 batteries of tests that make these described here look like a joke).

Test your source.Test it again the next time.If the pH is even close why waste your time and money checking? Again this is intended for all who read. If you change sources then obviously do a couple of checks. Most undesirable "hardness" in water supplies - MOST - are from calcium (limestone it seeps through seeping down to the aquifer) and magnesium.
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I agree. they switched my water supply because shits drying up in cali. they sent me a letter didn't think anything of it. started a crop and fucked it all up. the water is horrible. 800 ppm couldn't believe it
 
nizmo

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MrStickyScissors said:
hotrod,if your watering with hard water your plant can very well flat out die or grow terribly. Yeah you may be right with not ph'ing with soil because of the buffer that's in the soil but it doesn't hurt to ph it.
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It does hurt for the reasons i explained. When you constantly add pH up/down to get your input water at the right pH, you end up fucking up your soil balance over time. I have first hand experience of this. The point is, if you water supply isnt terrible and you are growing in good soil (which he is in this case), then the letters pH should never enter your mind.

If you have a shit water supply, then i have no advice for you. I don't know how to fix that shit. The water supply is fine where i live.
 
The_Dude

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None of the top leaves are affected, its all bottom fan leaves. Shouldn't other leaves be affected? I have been plucking as it happens. I think next time I will try 1/3 coco, 1/3 fox farms, 1/3 perlite. Pulled 7 more bottom fan leaves from 4 plants total. Tops look healthy as can be. I probably do spend too much time with these.
 
ButchyBoy

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JDGreen said:
Hotrodharley.


I think this guy is generally right but the wrong reasons and bad example. Cannabis benefits greatly from human intervention and wild.marijuana sux about half the time compared to indoor. Dont use tap water! Without dechlorinating it WILL KILL YOUR MICROORGANISMS. which are not cheapp to add
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Actually chlorine is a micro nutrient!

https://ucanr.edu/repositoryfiles/ca1009p10-64551.pdf

I use straight tap water right out of the faucet with no ill effects! No adjusting of the ph is needed.You can smell the chlorine in it. I also use Azomite in my mix and it has 0.1% chlorine because it is a micro nutrient.
Now using water from a swimming pool will jack up the soil and plant.
 
The_Dude

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Just looking around on youtube at deficiency problems. It might be phosphorous/cal/mag or PH. I have been plucking the leaves as this happens and pinching the stem. All the smaller newer leaves seem fine. My plants used to have big giant fan leaves that reached from middle finger to elbow, but have lost most of those. This is my first try at this and I really think the beginning went well up to the first 30 days. I had giant fan leaves compared to what I was seeing in other vids of growers who's plants were similar age. I am only using foxfarm grow big nutes every 3 days and foxfarm ocean floor soil(was told not to worry about PH).
 
The_Dude

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I think I found the problem, mag deficiency.

I hope it didn't hurt my plant losing that many older/larger fan leaves. This sucks ass.
 
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harris hawk

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The_Dude said:
Ok, here is what I don't understand. The Fox Farms grow big has the magnesium nute in it.
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No so Fox farms is not HOT soil - it is what you add to it that makes it hot - know folks that have used it for years with no issues. just reduce your nutrients you use - easy does it
 
The_Dude

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Ok, confused........ The problem started with huge/older fan leaves on the bottom yellowing. I just noticed that the stems that those are happening to are purple. I am noticing leaf curl on all leaves now. I am also noticing yellow in between the veins. This has to be mag/calcium deficiency right? I would have mentioned the purpling stems earlier, but did not know that this was not normal. I just went to check on the plants and I am seeing curling on every leaf now.
 
The_Dude

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Unfortunately I think I have caught this too late. Being a first timer, I didn't really come into this with the knowledge I have now. I am not sure I dealt with the larger fan leaves properly by plucking them. Or hell, just letting this go for too long. A lot has to do with listening to local folks that were telling me that this was natural. Hell, I am not even sure its a magnesium problem. Although all signs are there.
 
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