Hi Gruber.....first off, a very nice job as always. The plant looks different than what I had grow out????? I'm wondering, as a previous poster had mention, was GreenThumb able to round up the "old" genetics from someone who maintained an old version? I grew the feminized version when I did them and I think you grew regular beans right? Just doesn't look like the strain I did.......
Thanks.
I grew the fems the same as you did and i had early veg problems the same as you and a number of other people. It would seem odd to have such a coincidence happen regarding problems in early veg from completely different plants, wouldn't you think?
My 2 plants have what appears to be different bud structures but they taste exactly the same. The high seems the same as well. From the pictures Ive seen, one of them looks exactly like the official picture on Doc's site and the other looks exactly like the pictures in Doc's customer photo gallery.
Looks to be the same plant he has had pictured on his site for many years.
I have seen plants react to the environment and look vastly different then i thought they should....maybe that explains what happened to you???
As for the Mod you mention that talked to Doc.....you're talking about Research Kitty correct?
Wasn't RS found to be a fraud or something like that? Didn't it turn out that RS was in fact two different people? Its telling that no matter how hard i look I cannot find any quote from an email or even any real detail of a phone call from Doc that RS posted. Just RS telling us she/he had a phone call in which Doc told her this story.
Doesn't it seem odd to you that Doc would tell someone on the phone this story only to deny it to everyone else? Why did he tell her that in the first place?
I think RS was very transparent in her/his bias against GT. She/he threatened to ban people if they didnt stop insulting others and always turned her head when the insulting came from people she agreed with. I just saw her as an immature person that couldn't keep the story straight.
In any event, I don't think RS was a person above reproach, or even a person to be trusted in the long term.
Now, if im wrong abut RS and have the story mixed up then i apologize for that....but im pretty sure that's how the story went.
I can say with almost certainty that had i not adjusted what i was doing in early veg the plants would have turned out as you described from your grow. They were dying right in front on my eyes and without the help of a guy over at Skunk they probably wouldn't have been anything special and may not have even made the finish line.
For future growers----The advice i was given was that ES likes lots of Potassium in veg. I added some after i was told that and my plants took off and the problems stopped. For the 2 new ones i have going, i treated the soil ahead of time with Bloom food and they look great.
So, is it possible that Doc lost the original and waited years to get it back from said friend?
Sure it is.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me but anything is possible.
. I look forward to finding out for myself if they live up to the price and description but yes I have read many threads that say he lost many of his key moms and pops. The pheno's seem quite varied but can that not be explained by them being S1's, which I understand throw more pheno's than a regular bean. Is this wrong? I'm thinking the key for me to find the "one or two" keepers is grow each plant out before deciding which to keep. Better start expanding the clone/veg area lol.
