Thanks for the info. Going to do 1 or 2 DIY LED lights to run a few plants under. I plan on keeping my current room under HPS/MH combo lighting. It will be nice to do some direct side by side comparisons. May even just do one LED and also spend the money on an induction light. The plasma still really intrigues me. But just cannot get enough first hand info on them to warrant the cost at the moment.
No doubt, I can't hang with all this DIY bullshit about LED's now, not all people have the aptitude to do so anyway. The LED forum used to be a fun place to hang out in, it was more about people actually growing with led. Now it's overrun by the arrogant DIY crowd that think everyone else who doesn't use what they use or think the way they think suck.forget your diy bro, come to china, the samll factory does any thing for you. although the components are not good like the 999$ led, it has a great cost performance! choosing the components and the fan and the spectrum by yourself, a 300w led noly cost you 155$. its performance is not bad, im using them you can see my 25days old girls in my post
There's a few reasons for this. One is that we're trying to stop people from wasting their money. There's no reason to use an LED system if doesn't produce better than HPS. Second, we're sick and tired of people buying shitty panels just to conclude what we already know... that HPS performs better than cheap blurple units and costs less to setup.
i completely agree with your point, the main advantage of led is convenience. its fair to say that most normal people cant make a diy led which yields better than HPS, so whats the point of diy led, which just satify people self. people spend tremendous time to analyse it but usually they found that the led just perform worse than the HPS
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I needed a good laugh like that. Eye of the beholder or some such......
This I feel needs to be repeated.
Well I have seen a few LED grows firsthand that are producing the same as HPS watt for watt over comparable footprints And are out frosting an HPS. Granted they are using Cree/COBS but are still impressive. IMO initial cost is still the limiting factor. As time goes on the cost of LEDs will go down and make it a more viable option for the masses.
repeated it shall be!
Doing what forum parrots do best rather than their own due diligence.
What pray tell is that even supposed to mean exactly? Agreeing with a statement makes one a parrot now days?
There's pictures with blurple panels and then there's a guy going on about how he feels shunned from the LED section on this site because he doesn't want to read for 3 hours to learn something.
They have solderless molex connectors for vero's and solderless cob holders for the Cree CX chips. You can build an LED with a drill, a screw driver, and a speed square. Literally the only tools needed, to say it's to hard is silly man. DIY led's are like learning organics it seems super hard and daunting at first,just because there's so much information, but once you start to figure it out it's soooo easy and everything makes sense quickly.
^ this guy has an interest in blurple panels.... he sells them.
Love the sarcasm! And yeah he has referred to the blurples. But his posts like many are irrelevant too me.
I have never been a true side by side that an inda gro outperforms a chameleon 500w... Did your buddy try LED (not the cheap crap) or Plasma before choosing induction?