Optic Lighting.. 500 Watt Vero 29 or Cree CXB3590 model? Need help deciding...

Jamie Starr

Jamie Starr

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I'm having a really hard time deciding between these two 500 Watt models from Optic Lighting..


Either the Vero 29 500 Watt or the CXB3590 500 Watt model. Going to use whatever I choose in a tent for both Veg and Bloom cycle.. going with the 4000k spectrum.



Any suggestions? Are the Cree CXB3590 chips much better? and how so? Worth the extra cost?






DIY option for building a light just not feasible for me at this time. I am definitely going to buy one of these two lights.. and probably today.. and another a week later.

Any feedback will be appreciated!!


Excited to enter the world of LED growing.. and especially now that these COB lights are available!!
 
Jamie Starr

Jamie Starr

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well that's what I was thinking too.. got confused however when I saw some more recent folks here running the CXB3590 chipset in their DIY setups... I was thinking.. one second I'm reading how amazing these Vero 29 chips are... the next I see the same guys running CXB3590's.. thought I was missing something.

I definitely want the Optic Lighting fixtures however. I see and hear nothing but good things so far.

Another question.. realistically.., in flower.. how high above the canopy should these be mounted from the base of the light using the included lenses?
 
JimmyIndica

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Jamie Starr said:
well that's what I was thinking too.. got confused however when I saw some more recent folks here running the CXB3590 chipset in their DIY setups... I was thinking.. one second I'm reading how amazing these Vero 29 chips are... the next I see the same guys running CXB3590's.. thought I was missing something.

I definitely want the Optic Lighting fixtures however. I see and hear nothing but good things so far.

Another question.. realistically.., in flower.. how high above the canopy should these be mounted from the base of the light using the included lenses?
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Buy the 200s and as many as u need. each 1 covers 2x2 and putem 16 inches away and your good to go.. u might wanna think goin with 3500K with little more red in it! IMO
500s cases are to small for 3590s/V29s with 120 to em.
Pepes are switchin from V29 to 3590s because 11000lumens:weed: and therefore you can raise the fixture and thus increase flowering coverage area.
 
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Jamie Starr

Jamie Starr

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JimmyIndica said:
Buy the 200s and as many as u need. each 1 covers 2x2 and putem 16 inches away and your good to go.. u might wanna think goin with 3500K with little more red in it! IMO
500s cases are to small for 3590s/V29s with 120 to em.
Pepes are switchin from V29 to 3590s because 11000lumens:weed: and therefore you can raise the fixture and thus increase flowering coverage area.
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cityworker415 said:
4 200'$

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Are you both saying that at 16" the 500 watt model won't cover 48" x 44" like the manufacturer states? They have been pretty honest about everything else.. I figured the footprint would also be correct in those specifications.
 
JimmyIndica

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Jamie Starr said:
Are you both saying that at 16" the 500 watt model won't cover 48" x 44" like the manufacturer states? They have been pretty honest about everything else.. I figured the footprint would also be correct in those specifications.
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That # is overall footprint for veg. the 360/500s need to be put 20-24 in from the canopy. 3ft x3ft6in MAX is the flower print IMO. 120/200s can be put 14 to 18 in ches away.
And they are at the top when it comes to support!
I agree that you should use 4 200s for that area to control output better!
 
cityworker415

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They might be good guys but they're still selling you a product don't trust anybody

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Jamie Starr

Jamie Starr

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well..I am definitely going to buy the 500 watt model.. multiple units eventually.

so the specs and canopy distance, footprint,etc of the lower power models like the 200 watt model, does me no good..you're confusing me by bringing those numbers up. I am only concerned with the big one.the 500.
 
frica

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I think the 500 watt Vero 29 will probably work for 48" x 44" "just fine" even during flowering.
Also it seems to be 545 watts. (Power Supply: 42V @ 2.9A ( 4 Power Supply's )

That's 35 watt per square foot or so. That should do fine enough I think
 
dandyrandy

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I use 8 Vero 29's driven at ~100w each in an area 40x46. I am in the second week of flower and I have to water every other day. 5 gal soil grow. Since building cooltube leds you can really put some power in an area. The downside is faster growth.:clap:
 
testiclees

testiclees

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frica said:
I think the 500 watt Vero 29 will probably work for 48" x 44" "just fine" even during flowering.
Also it seems to be 545 watts. (Power Supply: 42V @ 2.9A ( 4 Power Supply's )

That's 35 watt per square foot or so. That should do fine enough I think
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is anyone here using one of those 500's? I think the 18" case is a serious drawback in relation to power and light distribution.

I agree that the 36x36 ,is about right for the 360. The 360 is in the same 18x12 case as the 500.
 
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alesh

alesh

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Jamie Starr said:
well that's what I was thinking too.. got confused however when I saw some more recent folks here running the CXB3590 chipset in their DIY setups... I was thinking.. one second I'm reading how amazing these Vero 29 chips are... the next I see the same guys running CXB3590's.. thought I was missing something.

I definitely want the Optic Lighting fixtures however. I see and hear nothing but good things so far.

Another question.. realistically.., in flower.. how high above the canopy should these be mounted from the base of the light using the included lenses?
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Vero29s are nice. They don't lose much efficiency when driven hard and hot or vice versa they don't gain much when driven soft. CXB3590 on the other hand can get you unrivaled efficiency if you're not frying them like Optic does.
 
JimmyIndica

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alesh said:
Vero29s are nice. They don't lose much efficiency when driven hard and hot or vice versa they don't gain much when driven soft. CXB3590 on the other hand can get you unrivaled efficiency if you're not frying them like Optic does.
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3590s are just getting started at 100 to em. 120 to each cob lessens the efficiency,but top priority should be yield/performance#s not saving 5dollars on your electric bill for the month.
Optic runs there vero500s to high,but 3590 500s to high? I didn't know u could hit a 3590 to hard?
 
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