12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

cc2012

cc2012

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Hiya HdS, james and well everyone else.. I'm still reading through this and tbh I'm SOLD on the Idea.. Indeed a small SoG? 12/12 from bean is in tha Planning stage ask We speak.. just got a Quick Question...then back to page 37 I go..

Question: I will be doing just tha 10x beans for my 1st 12/12 from Seed.. What would you say would be tha Better Pot Size 3L or 6L? any Ideas/thoughts on this folks.. Cheers..

@ HdS, I can't wait to get closer to the end of this Thread, Pretty sure I seen some "Starship Enterprise" Grow going on..

atb
 
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cc2012 said:
Hiya HdS, james and well everyone else.. I'm still reading through this and tbh I'm SOLD on the Idea.. Indeed a small SoG? 12/12 from bean is in tha Planning stage ask We speak.. just got a Quick Question...then back to page 37 I go..

Question: I will be doing just tha 10x beans for my 1st 12/12 from Seed.. What would you say would be tha Better Pot Size 3L or 6L? any Ideas/thoughts on this folks.. Cheers..

@ HdS, I can't wait to get closer to the end of this Thread, Pretty sure I seen some "Starship Enterprise" Grow going on..

atb
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First of all, thank you! The fact you're taking the time to read thru literally thousands of posts is impressive!
Regarding container size, I really don't think it's going to matter. If you're going to do 10 seeds, what will you be using for lighting? You probably want to go the biggest you can for your space. The larger your containers and the more room you give them, the larger they will end up. All of my experiments have been focusing on cramming them in really tight but if you give them some elbow room and good root room they will get much larger and yield much more than what I've gotten.
 
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cc2012 said:
Hiya HdS, james and well everyone else.. I'm still reading through this and tbh I'm SOLD on the Idea.. Indeed a small SoG? 12/12 from bean is in tha Planning stage ask We speak.. just got a Quick Question...then back to page 37 I go..

Question: I will be doing just tha 10x beans for my 1st 12/12 from Seed.. What would you say would be tha Better Pot Size 3L or 6L? any Ideas/thoughts on this folks.. Cheers..

@ HdS, I can't wait to get closer to the end of this Thread, Pretty sure I seen some "Starship Enterprise" Grow going on..

atb
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Depends on your space and lighting bro, the genetics you will be running. Sativa dom will need bigger with all the stretch they have. Indica dom prolly not so much but still could need it as roots may grow fast. If your wanting buds from it off jump then fem seeds is the way to go unless your gonna pop 20+ reg seeds every few weeks to weed out males and replace with others. Get you a good strain in fem seeds and you should be good to go but lots of factors to think of
 
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Cheers for the replies Guys, I will start a Journal on this as to not hijack this Thread, but a little bit of quick Info won't hurt..
GR(cupboard) is about 4x4x8' and the Light will be 400w Dual Spectrum Mh/Hps and the strain, You'll probably Laugh.. because very "Cheap" compared to HdS Order for Chapter II.. waffling!!

Female Seeds Lemon Kush(Fems) £18.81 for 10, well £19 + £4 PnP so £23 in Total on Beans..

atb

@HdS, Well the Thread caught My eye and I liked what You was doing, still do.. but gotta read it all.. hate missing bits.. I have been looking into 12/12 for a while and contemplating it all.. But reading this made my mind up about it tbh, for Me its the using less Electricity and still achieving respectable results(only grow for Me & Missus) Waffling again..do it a lot..

atb
 
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cc2012 said:
Cheers for the replies Guys, I will start a Journal on this as to not hijack this Thread, but a little bit of quick Info won't hurt..
GR(cupboard) is about 4x4x8' and the Light will be 400w Dual Spectrum Mh/Hps and the strain, You'll probably Laugh.. because very "Cheap" compared to HdS Order for Chapter II.. waffling!!

Female Seeds Lemon Kush(Fems) £18.81 for 10, well £19 + £4 PnP so £23 in Total on Beans..

atb

@HdS, Well the Thread caught My eye and I liked what You was doing, still do.. but gotta read it all.. hate missing bits.. I have been looking into 12/12 for a while and contemplating it all.. But reading this made my mind up about it tbh, for Me its the using less Electricity and still achieving respectable results(only grow for Me & Missus) Waffling again..do it a lot..

atb
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Have you decided on what your growing medium will be yet? And did I read that correctly...you will be using a 400 watt inside of a 4x4 tent?
 
cc2012

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Sorry about delay in reply was still reading... I could use a tent..do have a roughly 4x4 but tbh never really liked it after buying it?? But yeah the space is just over 4x4' the 400w is Air Cooled and exhausted straight out of Cupboard.. as for Medium it will be mainly a CocoCoir Mix with added Fungi and whatnot, just something I've been playing with on tha last couple of Grows..Me Strawberry Blue ScroG is in this Mix as well as Me Blackberry Kush Autos.. I just can't decide on the 3L or 6L for Pots..Normally use 10/11L and 18L but for this Experiment figured they are way to BiG.. .Splif Time and back to Reading...You've just given the Tubs a Feed is where I'm @... Past Christmas now.. .. LoL!

atb
 
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cc2012 said:
Sorry about delay in reply was still reading... I could use a tent..do have a roughly 4x4 but tbh never really liked it after buying it?? But yeah the space is just over 4x4' the 400w is Air Cooled and exhausted straight out of Cupboard.. as for Medium it will be mainly a CocoCoir Mix with added Fungi and whatnot, just something I've been playing with on tha last couple of Grows..Me Strawberry Blue ScroG is in this Mix as well as Me Blackberry Kush Autos.. I just can't decide on the 3L or 6L for Pots..Normally use 10/11L and 18L but for this Experiment figured they are way to BiG.. .Splif Time and back to Reading...You've just given the Tubs a Feed is where I'm @... Past Christmas now.. .. LoL!

atb
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Here's my 2 cents then.
I don't think your 400 will be able to do 16 sq/ft (4x4). In fact, a 600 cannot do that much either.
I'd aim for about 30 inches square and try and fit all 10 in that footprint. Regarding container size, whatever you decide will be fine. 6 Liters seems just fine. What are the dimensions of your container?
 
cc2012

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Well I'm getting there "loving" the Octagon Design and Ideas.. Experiment No.2 seems to have Turned out Nice towards the end.. . On Page 77 Post #1126 .. .20 Pages and I will be caught up. ...



It will be interesting to see what the end Results of Experiment No.2 are...

Again very Interesting read!!

atb
 
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Minor update:

I decided to do a full rez change this morning. I kept the recipe the same as last time but altered what I did for the PH management. I had a little bit of an issue worth mentioning and hopefully it's no big deal but you silica users can hopefully clear it up for me.

I mixed 75 ml's of Silica in 5 gallons and let sit for 15 minutes (stirred repeatedly)

I mixed 100 ml's of Part A into 5 gallons and let sit for 15 minutes (stirred repeatedly).

Once the tubes were drained and I had flushed probably 20 extra gallons of fresh water thru them, I poured the 5 gallons of silica mix into the rez. The rez prolly had about 5 gallons of water in it. The water became fairly cloudy. I hand stirred for a minute and then poured in the Part A mix. I continued stirring but it still looked cloudy. This lasted for about 5 minutes or so and then the cloudiness went away.

I then added Part B and ZONE.

Is the cloudy thing anything I need to worry about?

At the end of all of this, I added 37.5 ml's of PH down, mixed thoroughly and then turned the pumps back on. Going back to last week when I 1st mixed this soup, here is what I did:

40 ml's of PH Down. A few hours later, 10 ml more of PH down. Later that day, 10 ml more. This got me to 6.1/6.2 but then 2 days later I was fighting rapidly dropping PH and had to add 10 ml' of PH UP on 2 occasions before it finally stabilized.

The PH is currently sitting at 6.7 and although it's a tad on the high side, I think it's ok knowing that in 2 days it will start to drop. Besides, having the PH fluxuate seems like a great idea for the nute uptake. Any errors in my thinking here?

As usual, thanks for watching and providing feedback.

A full pic update will be coming in a few days.
 
Hot Diggity Sog

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Mohican said:
I see this often too. I am not sure if it is a precipitate.

When you cleaned out your res was there anything at the bottom?

Do you run a filter on your pump?
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My rez was not completely empty. It had roughly 5 gallons in it...just plain water.
I don't run any filters on my pumps except for the filters that are built into them.

All of the pumps I use are EcoPlus pumps and they have a filter. Granted, they probably can only stop things as small as course perlite.
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Mohican

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Have you checked the filters? I was amazed at how much stuff built up in mine. I finally removed it because it was gunking up with root bits so quickly.

I was just wondering whether there was a layer of precipitated silica at the bottom of your res or did it dissolve back into the mix.

I did the same thing with pH. I had to start low and it would creep up.
 
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Mohican said:
Have you checked the filters? I was amazed at how much stuff built up in mine. I finally removed it because it was gunking up with root bits so quickly.

I was just wondering whether there was a layer of precipitated silica at the bottom of your res or did it dissolve back into the mix.

I did the same thing with pH. I had to start low and it would creep up.
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I'll check them all and give them a thorough cleaning if needed. Every time I change the water I run my fingers on the sides and bottom of the rez to just check for anything slimy or gross. Felt clean as new still. I would have surely felt silica if it was on the bottom, yes?
 
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