...All Things Vero...

Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?


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Greengenes707

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What do you consider normal units to be, young artisan?

Kill mode will be switched to peace mode come next week; here's a little spoiler..

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Great come back. I'm not the one who has units out in the field that can easily electrocute a customer.
And your reply answered exactly what I thought. You have no idea what a normal daisy chain is..
And that new plug will be no safer. Now instead of having a non-movable exposed hot line just sitting in the unit...you now have a portable "wand" of sorts to get electrocuted with. Super safe there man...not. Better give instructions on which unit to plug in first...with a huge long waiver for when they don't follow instructions.

Well here is a little help for you because I don't want to see anyone hurt form an idiot move like your doing and keep trying to defend yourself from.
There is no such thing as a daisy chain cord. And you should be a standard single AC input receptacle(wall outlet). The regular power cord is the daisy chain. And when doing it this way, there is no exposed live wires, lines, or plugs. Now please get over your stupid little ego about me and fix your product(including recalling) so no one gets hurt.

You're welcome

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Preferably universal...
http://www.110220volts.com/R4T-U.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwla2tBRDY7YK9uKXe8R8SJAAhG6LGTUbFEJzOCGx2x2OgnuaI6zr0n-_Gtm0HL71d3uA68xoCqZ3w_wcB
 
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AquariusPanta

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Great come back. I'm not the one who has units out in the field that can easily electrocute a customer.
And your reply answered exactly what I thought. You have no idea what a normal daisy chain is..
And that new plug will be no safer. Now instead of having a non-movable exposed hot line just sitting in the unit...you now have a portable "wand" of sorts to get electrocuted with. Super safe there man...not. Better give instructions on which unit to plug in first...with a huge long waiver for when they don't follow instructions.

Well here is a little help for you because I don't want to see anyone hurt form an idiot move like your doing and keep trying to defend yourself from.
There is no such thing as a daisy chain cord. And you should be a standard single AC input receptacle(wall outlet). The regular power cord is the daisy chain. And when doing it this way, there is no exposed live wires, lines, or plugs. Now please get over your stupid little ego about me and fix your product(including recalling) so no one gets hurt.

You're welcome
Let me fill you in with what I know from experience with this product. Having two male IEC sockets on each of the ends of the Model-V does pose a level of endangerment to anyone who is brave/dumb enough to think that putting their fingers in a socket with the lights turned on is safe; initially when designing this product, I somehow forgot that there are dumb people out there in the world and overlooked this. That issue has since been resolved.

Now with one AC socket/receptacle male and the other female, and with the addition of a male/female IEC power cord, that unlikely, fatal possibility is eradicated. I guess I didn't make that clear enough with the picture above?..

You lost with me with the wand talk, please elaborate further so I and others understand your concerns?
 

Greengenes707

Well-Known Member
Let me fill you in with what I know from experience with this product. Having two male IEC sockets on each of the ends of the Model-V does pose a level of endangerment to anyone who is brave/dumb enough to think that putting their fingers in a socket with the lights turned on is safe; initially when designing this product, I somehow forgot that there are dumb people out there in the world and overlooked this. That issue has since been resolved.

Now with one AC socket/receptacle male and the other female, and with the addition of a male/female IEC power cord, that unlikely, fatal possibility is eradicated. I guess I didn't make that clear enough with the picture above?..

You lost with me with the wand talk, please elaborate further so I and others understand your concerns?
Yes, not very clear. Specially when following your first plan of "custom" daisy chains...male to male from female to female. So apologies, you should be good. The one thing you have, and I am sure you will just say fuck it because I am telling you. But you now have to buy a power + daisy chain. Instead of just a power. And considering you were complaining about things like wraps and shrinks adding to your cost...you might want to look into it.
 

Scotch089

Well-Known Member
Having two male IEC sockets on each of the ends of the Model-V does pose a level of endangerment to anyone who is brave/dumb enough to think that putting their fingers in a socket with the lights turned on is safe; initially when designing this product, I somehow forgot that there are dumb people out there in the world and overlooked this.

..you gotta get that fixed. Being a person who grows with a light every opportunity I have, and running the variety of lights I have.... I was at one point, and still am apparently(since you decided to bring community esteem down) one of those dumb people.

With my AT, my 51s, my old 51s, progrows, generic lights, hell HID hood, fuckin whatever. I cannot count the times I have rest the light at my hip bone to tinker. (Not the diy, unless it's unplugged, psu) to fix something on the ratchets, or tighten a screw, adjust height, fix the mounts... I can also say I I did some times with the lights on. Hot on your lap but whatever... I cannot tell you how many times I probably rested my finger on the old 51s daisy function and didn't think twice about it........ you need to get that fixed. And I know you know you do. So the tude in here towards g isn't necc, idc what he said or how he said it, we're all on the Internet -_- kind if fogs the communication, AND we're all adults. Take the constructive criticism and do your thing. Just don't defend yourself trashing your targeted market because you feel like you're being attacked. Even if you were... that's a great way to start making money...

You have got a lot to learn and it's gonna come fast doing shit like this. (Plug, talk..) customers have bitched because there was no hanging guide with a light. Yea. I'm think, for real?! But you know what... we're in a hobby that is finally surfacing as a legitimate medical tool under a doctors belt. And what goes and sees the doctor? Sick people, so maybe I shouldn't pass judgement so quick because maybe they are feable, or starting to mentally go out. Or maybe they are special needs... even as "minor" as what asbergers (sp?) Can look like.. that's enough.

Probably not the case. But to put the extreme out there may help you realize as a distributor of a good, you have to think of absolutely everything at an extreme so you cover all the bases that build up to where you've already covered.

Fuck cost. If ppl want the best product they can buy (In their eyes) whatever it may be... they'll buy it. That just opens my eyes that you are already concerned about the margin youre trying to make too much... you should be just getting lights out to ppl and worry about reputability

I didn't buy AT for 5 years? Back when I first started growing I saw em in max growth and never pulled the trigger. Then I found out the science behind the price, the results (g), and finally got myself one.

I dont have a whole lot of basis to pass judgement on you, i usually stay out if this "you and g" thing. It just irritates me to see this shit attitude because you are frustrated. don't fuckin rag on the community for it, and certainly take the help from members that are hospitable and good enough sports to help.

Good luck dude.
 

AquariusPanta

Well-Known Member
@Scotch089

Where do you see the attitude, dude?

Edit: Where did I rag on the community?

Either you're delusional about what you've read or you're intentionally trying to rag on me, which I don't appreciate.

@UKpeanuts

Yup, that's what's got some people rattled.

@OneHitDone

Totally! Heaven Bright will be offering a Model-V6, set to peace mode, for one of the top winners in the 7th Party Cup Competition but is also looking for growers who want to showcase it's abilities during the competition.

@The Dawg

I thought about utilizing those but found out they wouldn't be applicable, nor mountable for the design. The fans are quite resilient and when powered at 5V, are harmless to touch.
 
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salmonetin

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@Greengenes707 --
is this what you mean, both those power outlets are diasy chained; for example;
In the picture the far outlet is live 110 / 220VAC?

...what your thought?... for daisychain style... YES...there are live AC... ...now corrected with future female connector...i hope...

...the daisychain cord conexion ...one extreme with male conector for the new auxiliary female connector on lamp and the other extreme with a female conection (female again for same security reasons for the auxiliary connector...male dangerous with lamp conected... i hope people understand this too...the same reason for the principal ac cord male for wall but female on other extreme to evitate posible contacts with ac) for the principal male conector on lamp for other lamp...

...for my pov... the best daysichain i saw its the T way with T conector from HN holographic series... i talk about these conectors pieces on others threads too... no needed 2 ac conectors (and wires for the second too) on lamp... you need only one principal conector... ...the male on this conector are protected to contact too.. i know its expensive but i like a lot... and its only my pov...

...you can use what you like... but safety on electricity is a must...

...not for kids... ...when work on electricity forget consume cannabis... ac its too serious theme... i asume certain level of understanding when you work with ac live wires... i have years of experience working with ac... the security first ever... i smoke lot of cannabis... but heyyyy when i work on ac... im totally sober... ...all my senses actived and concentrated... i have the same respect to ac and the ocean... and im old...


@AP.- DUDE!?!!!?! !
...dude you?...

pd ...clic and expand my quote ...good info inside...

:peace:

Saludos
 
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churchhaze

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@Greengenes707 --
is this what you mean, both those power outlets are diasy chained; for example;
In the picture the far outlet is live 110 / 220VAC?

@AP.- DUDE!?!!!?! !
I hate to say it, but I'd honestly put out a recall, and fix the new models. Honestly, the chance of someone actually getting fatally electrocuted is pretty low, but even a 0.5% chance is too high.

To fix it, simply replace the socket with a normal mains socket rated for the currents the meanwells draw. Never make make power cables male on both end. (death cable)

 

JimmyIndica

Well-Known Member
Moving from one state to another, during the summer, can be a bummer. I'm glad I can now refocus my energies on what's important in my life, which for me, and like many of you, is family and business.

Here's a little more love coming from Heaven Bright, with much more to come in the follow week(s).

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Ya'll take it easy this weekend, as temperatures probably won't allow you to do otherwise ;).
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UKpeanuts

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@PSUAGRO.

Yeah no kidding! But you're right, an easy fix!

@Scotch089

I apologize if my choice of words upset you but the truth is that we can all be dumb from time to time, as it's a part of human nature. The good thing is that we learn from being dumb, only to become smarter.

@churchhaze

Thanks for the advice but all has been taken care of at this point.
So you've recalled the products with death potential? (not having a go although might sound like it)

a) in the UK what you have sold is illegal you would be prosecuted under mis selling of goods acts /electrical item not CE marked etc.. BAD
b) someone might die. 50mA is all you need, a 110V outlet will put that through your body no problem, coupled in a grow room (wet floor, low resistance) VERY BAD
c) I don't know how many of these you have sold, but you need to re call them.
d) have you considered how you will feel if you unintentionally kill someone (this can happen)

you seem like a non-stupid young man, do whats right. make it right. know.
 

UKpeanuts

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FYI - daisy chaining shit electrical practise . don't do it.

IF a component fails and the supply is daisy chained everything on that common fuse must be dead to replace the component. fucking ball ache. trust me.
Look in any proper panel and components are individually feed and labelled.

AP - if your not sure ask, I'm not claiming to be a electrician or owt, but if you wanna sell these things you need to operate like an electrical manufacturer.
Do you have QC or inspection forms etc... ( you don't actually need a form, but you should be IR testing these things before they leave, if you had done this you would have avoided the socket fiasco )

bestluck, here to help. honest.

UKP
 

PurpleBuz

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daisy chaining if done right is an ok practice, its nothing more than extensions of the ac input. same as a bunch of multiple plug strips.

but it does have to be done right following proper load limitations.
 

nevergoodenuf

Well-Known Member
Like Churchhaze said- make the power out a standard socket and you won't have to have any special link cable. Just like my stereo tuner, it has 2 110v outs.
 
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